心神 ~ Posted 4 hours ago (edited) On 9/14/2025 at 4:05 AM, Sanity Check said: The only item God left behind for christians to inherit is a book. 6 hours ago, Nungali said: * if you have the cup, the lance , the book .... then you need the dagger too or a sword would do ( Matthew 10 : 34 -36 ) Potential symbolic aspects of the texts that speak to this idea: 1. Book as Knowledge / Inheritance: Continuity, text, the Word made flesh; Pentacles as inheritance: tangible, codified, spirit in matter. - Jesus quotes scripture constantly: “It is written.” - His identity in John’s prologue: “In the beginning was the Word.” - Matthew: Incarnation in Jewish lineage; teaching discourse; “God-with-us” Book. Most text-structured: genealogy, law/fulfillment formulae (“it is written”), Sermon on the Mount, grounded inheritance and order. 2. Cup as Emotion / Spirit: Communion, covenant, surrender. - The chalice at the Last Supper: blood poured out, covenant sealed. - “Let this cup pass from me” (Matthew 26:39) - Luke: Priesthood, temple scenes, sacrifice/mercy for the marginalized. Eucharistic accents (Emmaus), compassion parables, sacrificial/serving tone, receptivity and grace. 3. Wand / Staff as will, action, life-force. Lance directs divine power and reveals hidden truth (blood and water flowing out). - Moses’ staff as sign of divine authority. - Christ pierced by the lance, his body literally opened by a spear. - Mark: Urgent action; authority; wilderness voice; passion fast-track. Kinetic, miracle-heavy, “immediately” pacing, will, initiative, prophetic force. 4. Sword as intellect, clarity, discernment, cutting between falsehood and truth. - “I came not to bring peace but a sword” (Matthew 10:34). - “The word of God is sharper than any two-edged sword” (Hebrews 4:12). - John: High Christology; Logos; piercing discernment; separation of light/dark. “Word” that divides belief from unbelief; sharp dialogues; theological clarity, discernment/cutting truth. Mastery of the four aspects could include developing a heart open to suffering and grace (Cup), the courage to act in the world (Lance/Wand), grounding in the Word (Book/Pentacle), and sharp discernment that divides truth from falsehood (Sword). Edited 4 hours ago by 心神 ~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanity Check Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Lala Nila said: Stop playing video games, guns are not the most valuable item in the game. Reason, discernment, and rationality are the most important "weapons" one can procure and hone. I haven't thought of reason or the mind as weapons in 20 years. For those who feel they need weapons. Or even to develop their mind as a weapon. What's your motive for fighting. What's the point. This matters a lot more than some might think. In the old world a certain degree of militancy was necessary for basic survival. But the world has changed. People have changed. There is a new world coming. Rather than repeat old world behavior, it might be better to ask what type of place our future will be and plan around that eventuality. Quote Public Opinion has also become weaponized, the minds of the masses are easily led and managed. A few minutes watching t.v can easily prove this point. Algorithms, echo-chambers, social media all serve to constrict you-shaping your opinion and perspective-keeping it in check and keeping it from discovering the "man behind the curtain." I would recommend watching this documentary, gives a good overview on how the minds of men/woman are shaped by those in power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s&t=133s **** If you're interested in Christianity read the bible, fully digest it. Then read the Old Testament, move on the writings contained in the Nag Hammadi library, gospel of Thomas and Mary Magdalene, finally the writings by Christian mystics. Read about the history of Christendom. How it came to be. Study all of it. Yeah- you are gonna have to read. Don't "study" through the lens of someone else's perspective. Pick up a book and by using discernment, reason and rationality see how various ideas move within you. Finally I would examine why you believe you are bing called to this. Is it about faith, politics, identity, belonging? Who or what is influencing your perspective (family, media, leaders, social circles). Are you adopting it because you feel called by the Holy Spirit, or because it makes you feel safe, powerful, or accepted in a group? Its mainly middle age to elderly who are susceptible to TV influence. But they didn't grow up in a world being constantly bombarded by ads and scams the way youth in the digital age were. And so they are disadvantaged. The world is changing. People are changing. They are not as easy to influence as they once may have been. There is something that needs to be said about christianity and the bible. People flock to it, as it is the realest and most legit thing that exists in this world. Period. Look at celebrities claiming they "manifested" something. They're all trying to be like Jesus turning water into wine. Emulating the christian faith, hoping to derive some legitimacy from it. I've seen buddhists claim that Mother Teresa and Jesus were great "buddhists". They claim historical figures of other religions more than they claim those involved with their own religion. Listening to most smart things mindset or life coaches try to say. High percentage of it is content borrowed from christianity and the bible. All roads lead to the christian faith. A foundation upon which modern society is built. Also thanks for your reading recommendations. I wrote them down and will look them up later. Edited 3 hours ago by Sanity Check Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
心神 ~ Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 31 minutes ago, Sanity Check said: All roads lead to the christian faith. A foundation upon which modern society is built. Thus says the Lord: Stand at the crossroads, and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. Jeremiah 6:16 The roads reach back much further, to Ancient Sumeria and beyond. Here are a few parallels worth exploring: Creation / Early Humanity Creation from watery chaos. Genesis 1 vs. Enuma Elish (Akkadian, Mesopotamian): order from primordial waters. Goddess Tiamat vs. impersonal “deep/tehom” in Genesis Humans formed from clay Genesis 2 vs. Sumerian/Akkadian motifs (e.g., Atrahasis, Enki & Ninmah): humans fashioned from clay; in Atrahasis, mixed with divine blood. Divine council language Genesis 1:26; 3:22; Psalm 82 vs. Mesopotamian divine assembly scenes: plural deliberation at creation/cosmos governance. Paradise / Garden Imagery Blessed garden with rivers. Genesis 2 (Eden, four rivers) vs. Enki and Ninhursag set in Dilmun (a pure, water-abundant land). Life-giving waters. Flood / Preservation of a Righteous One Cataclysmic flood, chosen survivor, boat, animals, landing, sacrifice Genesis 6–9 (Noah) ↔ Eridu Genesis (Sumerian Ziusudra), Atrahasis (Atrahasis), Gilgamesh XI (Utnapishtim). Shared plot skeleton; differences in cause (human noise vs. moral evil), gods’ motives, and theology of covenant. Long Lifespans / King Lists Extraordinary lifespans before/around the flood. Genesis 5; 11 ↔ Sumerian King List (antediluvian kings ruling for immense spans). Both show a drastic drop after the flood; functions differ (genealogy vs. royal historiography). Law and Covenant Forms Law codes and casuistic formulas Exodus 21–23 (Covenant Code) vs. earlier Mesopotamian codes (e.g., Ur-Nammu, Lipit-Ishtar, Hammurabi). Treaty/covenant pattern & curses Biblical covenant forms (e.g., Deut 27–30) show overlap with ANE treaty formats and curse lists common in Mesopotamian inscriptions. Wisdom / Instruction Proverbial instruction genre. Proverbs ↔ Sumerian Instructions (e.g., Instructions of Šuruppag): father-to-son counsel, practical ethics, terse maxims. Theodicy / suffering dialogues Job ↔ Mesopotamian dialogues/laments (e.g., Ludlul bēl nēmeqi—Akkadian). Shared problem of righteous suffering; differing conclusions about deity. Laments City/destruction laments. Lamentations ↔ Sumerian City Laments (e.g., Lament for Ur): communal grief over a city’s fall, theological framing of devastation. Birth/Foundling Motif Exposed infant rescued, rises to leadership. Exodus 2 (Moses) ↔ Sargon of Akkad legend: set adrift in a basket, found and raised to greatness. Motif-level parallel; narratives serve different ends. Towers/Temples and Language Ziggurat culture vs. Babel. Genesis 11 (Babel) vs. Mesopotamian ziggurats and city-building ideology. Shared backdrop of stepped temples; Genesis critiques human hubris/unified speech project. Timekeeping / Sevens Seven-day patterns & sacred time. Biblical week/Sabbath alongside Mesopotamian heptadic patterns (planetary days, seventh-day taboos) Edited 3 hours ago by 心神 ~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted 37 minutes ago 2 hours ago, 心神 ~ said: … Creation from watery chaos … amniotic fluid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites