Pain Managment Techniques

[oak]

Thought it would be useful to share my findings as they might be helpful to someone in the future. 

Have to wait 2 weeks for a dental apointment and I find myself with excruciating pain. Paracetamol and iboprufen not working anymore. Took some other Polish medication even stronger but guess what? Stopped working : )

Came to my mind two things said and written by Moshe Feldenkrais. I remembered him saying once in a video where he was treating a woman with chronic migraines that he had " many ways to trick her brain". With this in mind I tried to saturate my brain with "information" focusing in specific areas of both soles of my feet not giving any chance for the brain to give any attention to the pain. It worked. The pain was gone for more than 12 hours.

Other thing that I have tried and again with Feldenkrais' ideas in mind was the following, according to him sensitivity is directly proportional to muscular relaxation. You can't feel a feather on the palm of your hand if you have been carrying heavy weights. So, if you try to feel soft or subtle things on the surface of your skin the surrounding musculature will relax. Again, it works. A soft hand barely touching my head and face made the musculature relax and stopped excruciating pain.

Feeling very thankful to know what I know know and if it may help anyone, great : )

[Lairg]

8 hours ago, oak said:

saturate my brain with "information" focusing in specific areas of both soles of my feet not giving any chance for the brain to give any attention to the pain. It worked. The pain was gone for more than 12 hours.

 

In the Chinese tradition it seems that each tooth is connected to an organ by meridians.  The organs of course also map on the the soles of the feet.

 

A couple of weeks ago a friend was complaining about a particular molar so I had him follow the energy line and he suddenly became aware of his hemorrhoids.  Which end of the meridian was the cause?  Or was there a deeper cause that produced both problems?

 

 

[doc benway]

One can bring clear and stable attention to the area of pain, or the system, and connect to the feeling of spaciousness that is there if we can open enough to the experience. I think there is a relaxing there as well, @oak and also a loving, caring attention. Touch can be so healing and also the simple touch of awareness. Spaciousness and openness to the experience, not engaging with the psych/emotional side or stories, just being with the direct experience as best you can and open to the genuine warmth that can come up, as if caring for a loved one.

[oak]

1 hour ago, doc benway said:

One can bring clear and stable attention to the area of pain, or the system, and connect to the feeling of spaciousness that is there if we can open enough to the experience. I think there is a relaxing there as well, @oak and also a loving, caring attention. Touch can be so healing and also the simple touch of awareness. Spaciousness and openness to the experience, not engaging with the psych/emotional side or stories, just being with the direct experience as best you can and open to the genuine warmth that can come up, as if caring for a loved one.

 

That worked indeed for me, once. Again it was excruciating pain and I managed to totally listen to it without trying to alter anything...and as if by miracle it stopped. Untill this day I couldn't reproduce that again. It requires an extreme amount of focus and self-control.

This time I have decided to try something else. You learn by experiencing, isn't it? 🙂

Thanks for your contribution @doc benway

[Taomeow]

Where I come from they take the body temperature under the armpit rather than in the mouth (to this day I don't think I ever stuck a thermometer in my mouth -- just have to adjust the reading, since under the armpit it's about 0.5 degrees Celsius or 1 degree Fahrenheit lower).  So in my teens I trained myself to raise my temperature under one armpit, just while I was waiting to see a doctor with the intent to fake a cold.  It usually took about 10 minutes of visualiziation.  I assembled a very realistic fire under the armpit -- miniature imaginary logs, kindling, tinder, exactly the way I did it in real life while camping.  Strike a match, start the fire, feel it burn hotter and hotter.  Then the doctor would take my temperature and hey presto... solid no-nonsense fever, and the rest was up to the doctor's imagination -- which never failed, since the objective reading from a device -- the thermometer -- told them I was sick.  

On the way back home I would still feel realistically sick for another 15 minutes or so, headache and body aches and sniffles and all that jazz, but then my body would snap out of it, realizing that my mind had fooled it, and indignantly get back to normal to enjoy those days off.

   

I know...  a waste of talent.  But the title of the thread is "Pain management techniques," and school was always a huge pain in the ass.  

Edited April 9 by Taomeow

[oak]

51 minutes ago, Taomeow said:

 

 

I know...  a waste of talent.  But the title of the thread is "Pain management techniques," and school was always a huge pain in the ass.  

Indeed...

I've learned as a child chemical ways with home items to induce fever. That would help me skip school. Won't share them as teenagers may reed this 🥶

Congrats for your talent 🔥

[Taomeow]

Just now, oak said:

Indeed...

I've learned as a child chemical ways with home items to induce fever. That would help me skip school. Won't share them as teenagers may reed this 🥶

Congrats for your talent 🔥

 

I don't think I can do it anymore.  Haven't tried in a long time anyway...  I think the last time was in college.  We had compulsory attendance, so it wasn't possible to just not show up the way college students do here and now.  But the last year and a half I had the privilege of free attendance (due to a combo of being top of the class and personal circumstances) so I didn't need to fake being sick anymore -- I only showed up for exams anyway. 

 

It was brave of you (or desperate?) to go about it the chemical way.  I was afraid of chemistry so I never tried.  The reason I was afraid of chemistry back then was twofold -- a horrible relationship with the teacher (a bribe taking malicious bitch -- and my parents never bribed anyone), and this classmate who always messed with my labs to get my attention.  He was our nerdiest chemistry expert (and later professional) so I had no idea what he managed to sneak into my reagents, but the moment I'd mix something with something everything would start crackling and then exploding, sparks flying, burning holes in notebooks and so on.  The teacher blamed me.  I tried to argue that I don't know enough chemistry to pull off something like this, but she didn't believe me.  Horror of horrors, chemistry.       

[doc benway]

There is value in visualization for healing, for me.

Also in spiritual practice.

In Bonpo guru yoga, we first purify the body, speech, and mind first with flame, then wind, then water.

It’s a very effective cleansing process.

 

Edited April 9 by doc benway

[doc benway]

12 hours ago, Taomeow said:

I had no idea what he managed to sneak into my reagents, but the moment I'd mix something with something everything would start crackling and then exploding, sparks flying, burning holes in notebooks and so on

 

I was a chem major and worked as an organic lab TA during undergrad.

There were always one or two per lab who wreaked havoc, either through inanity or frivolity.

They enjoyed seeing me sweat and put out fires, it seemed.

Then again, I got to grade their lab assignments...

 

Edited April 10 by doc benway

[Lairg]

I have a friend that does a lot of driving.   Occasionally he calls me saying:  I have a pain in my ....

 

One time it was a sharp pain in his left shoulder blade.  I had the image of spear coming through the shoulder blade - and he could imagine it easily.

 

So:  who is holding the spear?    After some moments he said:  My elder son.  

 

So: give heart light to your son and ask him to remove the spear,

 

Done and done.  Pain gone.  Whole process was a few minutes

 

Perhaps 10 of his pain events have been resolved in similar fashion.   The pains were being caused by interference in the light-body (aura) and in each case it was a relationship issue.

 

 

I used to do a lot of similar clearing of my foot and leg pain while running.  These days it seems I have mostly sorted out my close relationships and rarely get pains.   

 

The other day an aggressive dog ran at me and a minute later I had a pain in one foot.  It took me a couple of minutes to realize that it was not a relative causing the pain.  The dog had projected some dark energy into my foot.  Once I spotted it, it was easy to remove.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 10 by Lairg

[Sanity Check]

The one time I got stitches.

 

The doctor sticks the needle into the wound to numb it.

 

No reaction.

 

He goes: "you have good pain tolerance".

 

Shrug.

 

If it is so, I have not the slightest clue how it got that way.

 

Accidental unintentional.

[oak]

15 hours ago, Taomeow said:

 

 

It was brave of you (or desperate?) to go about it the chemical way.  

 

I guess I was a teen feeling lost and not being able to relate to school and its usefulness. Ended up quiting school to be at home and in libraries studying the things that really mattered to me. Destiny I guess. By chemical way I'm just talking about Colgate here 😁 there are more desperate ways which soldiers use so not to go into battle.

[Taomeow]

26 minutes ago, oak said:

 

I guess I was a teen feeling lost and not being able to relate to school and its usefulness. Ended up quiting school to be at home and in libraries studying the things that really mattered to me. Destiny I guess. By chemical way I'm just talking about Colgate here 😁 there are more desperate ways which soldiers use so not to go into battle.

 

Yes, I know those desperate soldier ways...  My grandmother also told me about something Ukrainian girls did in the Nazi occupied territories during WWII to avoid being sent to forced labor in Germany.

 

I hope quitting school worked out for you.  I used to have a close relationship with someone who quit school at 15 (in England) -- he was spectacularly uneducated, I don't think he ever set foot in a library in his life, but he was a talented musician and managed to make a living right away -- and have many adventures we the school goers missed out on.  

[BigSkyDiamond]

On 4/9/2025 at 6:08 PM, Lairg said:

I have a friend that does a lot of driving.   Occasionally he calls me saying:  I have a pain in my ....

 

One time it was a sharp pain in his left shoulder blade.  I had the image of spear coming through the shoulder blade - and he could imagine it easily.

 

So:  who is holding the spear?    After some moments he said:  My elder son.  

 

So: give heart light to your son and ask him to remove the spear,

 

Done and done.  Pain gone.  Whole process was a few minutes

 

Perhaps 10 of his pain events have been resolved in similar fashion.   The pains were being caused by interference in the light-body (aura) and in each case it was a relationship issue.

 

 

I used to do a lot of similar clearing of my foot and leg pain while running.  These days it seems I have mostly sorted out my close relationships and rarely get pains.   

 

The other day an aggressive dog ran at me and a minute later I had a pain in one foot.  It took me a couple of minutes to realize that it was not a relative causing the pain.  The dog had projected some dark energy into my foot.  Once I spotted it, it was easy to remove.

 

I am loving what is described here.  I will now go try this out on the sharp pain in my right foot at top of ankle, which started a few days ago with no rhyme or reason and comes and goes.  

 

About 17 years ago i was in a bad car accident and taken by ambulance to the emergency room.  It resulted in a number of injuries the most severe was a double whiplash (my vehicle hit twice both from the rear and in front).  I knew from being a bodyworker how problematic neck injury was and that receiving treatment right away was key, the sooner the better.  So after being released from the hospital two days later, i started calling around to find someone who would work on an active acute whiplash two days post accident including not just posterior neck work but also anterior neck work.  Many licensed practitioners will not touch anterior neck at all even in healthy client.

 

So as expected, when i stared trying to find someone to work on the injury, most people would not touch it, i just kept calling.  Finally i found someone who was licensed, could provide insurance documentation with chart notes, and most importantly had learned a specific whiplash protocol that included anterior neck work.  I started seeing her the next day which was 3 days post injury and was seeing her 4 days a week, then gradually transitioned to 3 days a week, 2 days a week,  and then weekly. I was seeing her for close to a year.   It was gruelling work to do but by receiving treatment right away and finding a pracitioner who knew what she was doing, i regained 98% range of motion and full pain relief.  The court case took close to 3 years to settle (other driver's fault) so all the medical expenses for all that treatment were reimbursed.  

 

anyway it was during those many many hours on the treatment table that i started seeing for the first time as she worked on different sections of my neck, i started spontaneously seeing injuries in great detail from other lifetimes of mine.  I did not see the time or place, but i did see the weapon and specific entry and exit point.  for instance a spear with a wooden shaft and sharp stone point went in my neck and out through by upper ribs on the side.  Some of these weapons i did not even know what they were until i looked them  up when i got home, for instance "musket ball."  i saw vividly where it lodged in the occiput (no exit wound for that one, it was stuck in there).  It looked like a round heavy metal dull grey ball with a textured surface about 0.6 inches across.  i remember seeing it and thinking what the heck is that (the bush spear i at least recognized as a weapon) and then heard clear as a bell "musket ball."  Over the course of our treatment which spanned close to a year, there were about 8 or 9 fatal injuries shown to me, all of them a result of being attacked.  in other words, no death from natural causes.

 

I know that trauma lodges in the body so it felt like in being shown these during treatment sessions, that the work she was doing for the neck injury, was releasong trauma carried over from all these other different lifetimes.  It was wild.  

 

I will try an intentional use of that with this strange pain on my ankle.  These days when something happens like that i see it as a way to try whatever healing modality is currently on the radar for me.  I agree wholeheartedly that working on the etheric plane is fast and effective.  And I happen to find it fun also. 

Thanks Lairg for the post and details.

 

 

 

[Lairg]

48 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

strange pain on my ankle

 

 A couple of months ago while running I had pain along the bend at the top of the foot where it joins the leg

 

When I looked there was a line of perhaps 5 grey hooks - that I had not seen before.

 

They were from female relatives from the previous generation - all wanting to keep in contact.

 

So I sent them some heart light and told them they were welcome to maintain energy line contact but not in my foot.  I said the upper (transpersonal) part of the heart was the proper place.

 

So they all moved their contacts there and the pain immediately stopped

 

 

[BigSkyDiamond]

6 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

 A couple of months ago while running I had pain along the bend at the top of the foot where it joins the leg

When I looked there was a line of perhaps 5 grey hooks - that I had not seen before.

They were from female relatives from the previous generation - all wanting to keep in contact.

 

So I sent them some heart light and told them they were welcome to maintain energy line contact but not in my foot.  I said the upper (transpersonal) part of the heart was the proper place.

So they all moved their contacts there and the pain immediately stopped

 

 

that is way cool.  and that is exactly where the sharp shooting pain (that comes and goes out of the blue) is for me also, where the foot joins the ankle top of the foot slightly medial. On my evening walk today (I walk twice a day outside) the pain occurred 3 times.  The image i got when trying this was barbed wire and sense of someone trying to "trip me up and bring me down."   A specific family member came to mind.

 

So I will try using something I was given a long time ago  which i have found to be effective, particularly in cases of those seeking to harm me, or those who do not have my best interests at heart.  And it will sever the connection.  I thought it was extremely hokey at the time (30 years ago) and felt ridiculous doing it but it worked.  The person who gave it to me said it's OK to not even believe in it, it will work anyway.  

 

At that time (this was 30 years ago) my life was kind of a mess, going through a nasty divorce, lots of stress, emotionally drained.  The reader i went to who also did hands on treatment identified and described an acquaintance not someone i was close to at all, as "she's trying to kill you" which seemed bizarre because i barely knew this acquaintance so i questioned what sounded so extreme.  she said in a previous life she did kill me actually and that carried over into this lifetime and she was seeking to repeat the pattern at an energetic level.  The homework she gave me was practical, it was two things.  Keep your distance from this person, don't get any closer to them.  And say over and over to this person (internally not aloud and certainly not to them physically in person) "I BLESS YOU, I FORGIVE YOU, I RELEASE YOU WITH LOVE."

 

well like i said that felt a little hokey to me but i tried it.  Driving home i said it a bunch of times (internally, directing it at the acquaintance).  And then a couple days later at a large gathering in a public place she was there (we knew some of the same people) and so throughout the evening i said it internally directed to her.  At one point in the evening when i was saying it silently she was in proximity about 15 feet away, she suddenly turned towards me, whipped her head around, stared right at me and made direct eye contact.  It was a little freaky.  She then immediately walked away, left the room, left the gathering, left the building.  And that was the end of that. I had no further contact with her. My symptoms drastically improved.  I was amazed and impressed.   wow this stuff really works.

 

over the years i have used it to good effect.  It is still hard for me to stomach saying "with love" to someone who seeks to harm me, but i do it anyway because it works.  And i want to be rid of the pain illness disease.  And it now makes more sense to me how this works and why it is important for me to do it.   So i will get to it regarding the barbed wire and the family member.  

 

 

Edited June 8 by BigSkyDiamond

[Lairg]

1 hour ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

"I BLESS YOU, I FORGIVE YOU, I RELEASE YOU WITH LOVE."

 

In my view that is one half of the essential process.

 

The other half is loving yourself and forgiving yourself for having got into such a situation

 

In this galaxy the heart is where love energy is anchored in the human system.  

 

Sending light from the heart is the same as sending spiritual love.  

 

 

[BigSkyDiamond]

yes it is definitely more palatable when i see it as "I release you with love for myself"  "with love for my own safety health and well being."  i love myself enough to seek healing and implement healthy choices.  I take responsibility for resolving conflict and cleaning up my side of the street (my own thought speech action feelings emotions).   I do NOT blame myself for "having got into such a situation" because that to me sounds laden with blame and judgment (which are harmful rather than healing).     Responsibility, yes.  Blame, no.  Big difference that is an important distinction to make in healing from trauma.

 

so in the case of the family member and the barbed wire, i see it as cutting and severing that cord altogether.  I am not going to reattach a new cord to them from the heart.  The important goal for me when i recognize someone is seeking to harm me, whether it is physically or energetically, is to completely sever the connection with them entirely. 

 

so yes i can operate from or broadcast "the light" of pure consciousness.  but that for me does not come from the heart and is not an individual connection with that person.  It is not a cord from the heart.  It is more like a sun.  And as a teacher of mine says,  like the sun "Nothing can withstand the light of pure consciousness."  meaning the family member can no longer attach to me in that way and the attachment is burnt away.

 

a healer can remove energetic cords, but if a person doesn't change or "do something different"  then the cords are often just simply re-established, and re-attached.

Edited June 8 by BigSkyDiamond