Is God love?

[Cadcam]

The voice i heard was both masculine and feminine,  like two voices, each made up of infinite souls, speaking as one.

[Cadcam]

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Edited January 31 by Cadcam

[Lairg]

8 hours ago, Cadcam said:

I saw an angel and heard "chessed, chessed" then, a terrible grinding sound in my right ear, and incredible pain in my groin and head. I was suddenly in front of a throne and the being on it said "I am the sephiroth  I am all that is". 

 

Ever since then, 25 years ago, I've been plagued by hallucinations. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesed_(Kabbalah)

 

For many years I have had voice(s) in my head.  The voice(s) have been very useful - suggesting more efficient/effective thoughts/actions.   None of those voices has ever produced grinding or pain. 

 

It is important to learn how to test entities and statements.

 

For example, go back into the scene with the being on the throne.   

 

- Put next to the entity the words: "The Source of All".  What happens to the words?

 

- Intend and visualize a stream of light from your heart going to the entity.  What happens?

 

- Visualize a plumbline just above the entity's head.  What happens to the plumbline?

 

 

 

[Cadcam]

The pain came when the jewel cracked open. The hallucinations came later.

[Haribol]

14 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

Mercury?

[Cadcam]

I've been thinking about all that I've experienced.  It isn't like there was a book, or master, to guide me through it. I've been confused about it all for a very long time,  and considered everything I've read on qabbalah and magic.

 

The most i can conclude is that the gods acknowledge something of an order of Chaos, which is different than the average, and I somehow initiated myself into it. Its strange because these things just sort of happened without preparation. 

 

In the end, did any of it matter? How different am I now, having gone through all of this? I am left with no answers, and suspecting them only cause me trouble. 

 

I post hoping someone has experienced similar things, I've given up on books.

[Lairg]

For me, books provide hypotheses that I then test by repeated experiment, preferably with a competent friend observing in real time.  

 

I posted some experiments that might be useful to you.  You might like to try them.

 

Generally I am suspicious of the concept of "gods".  Such a concept promotes the ideas of worship and workshop - thereby avoiding/denying the spiritual authority anchored in the standard human format.  Who/what would benefit from such avoidance/denial?

[Annnon]

On 15/01/2025 at 7:27 PM, Nungali said:

Well, what is love ?

baby don't hurt me

don't hurt me

no more

 

[Cadcam]

After I heard the voice I set out to do a number of things, one of which was to convince people there was a God. It was a shocking revelation for me to know with certainty that there was one. Unfortunately it didn't occur to me that so many people already believe.  After years of work, I've come to realize that everyone believes in their own way, and that love and religion are in a state of chaos. And so i now withdraw into my heart and feel a bit of sorrow for the state of man and God. 

[Cadcam]

I've been afflicted for 25 years. I tried many times to create something good, and every time, I was set upon by demons. But I kept getting back up. The only answer, when I had every good intention,  is that i offended God. Its the only ans we er to my affliction. Where do I go from here?

[Lairg]

On 2/8/2026 at 2:42 AM, Cadcam said:

After I heard the voice I set out to do a number of things,

 

I find it important to test voices that appear in my head. There are many possible inner and outer sources.

 

For example V2K is a technology developed 50 years ago

https://spoileralert.au/voice-to-skull-v2k-technology-a-comprehensive-report/

 

Voices in the head are common in severe crimes

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by Lairg

[zerostao]

in my mind "god' is unknowable, like dao.

in my mind, love is the bridge to heaven.

[Tommy]

51 minutes ago, Cadcam said:

I've been afflicted for 25 years. I tried many times to create something good, and every time, I was set upon by demons. But I kept getting back up. The only answer, when I had every good intention,  is that i offended God. Its the only ans we er to my affliction. Where do I go from here?

To me, it seems that you have created this life with affliction and demons. You keep fighting because this is all you have known. So much so that this has become your Karma. You wrote this story. So, where do you go from here? It would seem that you really need an experienced teacher to work with you and guide you out of this self-made prison. I am sorry if that sounds harsh. But, I am like the madman in the desert looking for the Oasis. I know it is there. Just haven't found it yet. I wish you well.

[Nungali]

7 hours ago, Cadcam said:

I've been afflicted for 25 years. I tried many times to create something good, and every time, I was set upon by demons. But I kept getting back up. The only answer, when I had every good intention,  is that i offended God. Its the only ans we er to my affliction. Where do I go from here?

 

You listen to some of the good advice you have been given here many times when you posted similar ... when you are at this stage of your cycle . 

 

Its up to you ..... fly into a spiral, or stay on the turntable . 

[Nungali]

6 hours ago, Tommy said:

To me, it seems that you have created this life with affliction and demons. You keep fighting because this is all you have known. So much so that this has become your Karma. You wrote this story. So, where do you go from here? It would seem that you really need an experienced teacher to work with you and guide you out of this self-made prison. I am sorry if that sounds harsh. But, I am like the madman in the desert looking for the Oasis. I know it is there. Just haven't found it yet. I wish you well.

 

He has already been given the map , by more than one helper .  But ... excuses ... there are always excuses , of one type or another , sometimes masquerading as 'reasons' . . 

 

'Poster's History' can be an insightful tool   

 

 

 

[Nungali]

6 hours ago, zerostao said:

in my mind "god' is unknowable, like dao.

in my mind, love is the bridge to heaven.

 

 

 

 

On the Chinvat Bridge  your Daena awaits to lead you to the 'Land of Song ' .  She is a beautiful and glorious spiritual being that you will be in awe of . 

 

( HInt ;  'she' is your own 'immortal soul '  )  

[Haribol]

May I parrot 🦜 some doctrine from my local Krishna cult, about the three progressive understandings of God?

The first and «lowest» (yet still correct somehow) is that of the impersonal Brahman. That is: God is everything. Monism, I guess we could say.

 

The second and somewhat higher, and also correct, understanding of God is that he is the supersoul - paraatma to be technical. 

The third and highest realisation is that God is the supreme person, Bhagavan Krishna, and possesses six qaulities, or oppulences I think they say. Here I’ll let AI explain:

Spoiler

In Vedic philosophy, specifically as explained in the Vishnu Purana (6.5.74) by the sage Parasara Muni, the word Bhagavan is defined by the possession of six specific "opulences" or bhagas.
To be considered "Bhagavan," one must possess these six qualities simultaneously and to an infinite degree. Here is a breakdown of each:

The Six Opulences of Bhagavan

|---|---|---|
| Wealth | Aisvarya | He is the source and owner of all riches in the material and spiritual worlds. |
| Strength | Virya | He possesses unlimited power. He can create, maintain, and dissolve universes with a mere thought. |
| Fame | Yasas | His name and glories are celebrated throughout time and across all dimensions of existence. |
| Beauty | Shri | He possesses unparalleled physical and spiritual charm that attracts all living beings (hence the name Krishna, meaning "The All-Attractive"). |
| Knowledge | Jnana | He is omniscient. He knows the past, present, and future of every living entity. |
| Renunciation | Vairagya | Despite owning everything, he is completely detached. He is not bound by his creations or the results of his actions.
 

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Why "Renunciation" is Key
It might seem contradictory that someone with "Infinite Wealth" also has "Infinite Renunciation." However, this is the hallmark of the Divine. Krishna can build a city of gold (Dwarka) or command the greatest armies, yet he can walk away from it all without a moment's hesitation or a sense of loss. He is in the world, but not of the world.

Application to Krishna
In the context of Bhagavan Krishna, he is called the Purnavatara (Complete Avatar) because he displayed all six of these qualities openly:
 * Strength: Lifting Govardhan Hill on his pinky finger as a child.
 * Knowledge: Speaking the Bhagavad Gita on a chaotic battlefield.
 * Beauty: Captivating the hearts of everyone in Vrindavan.

> "One who possesses these six opulences in full is known as the Supreme Personality of Godhead." — Parasara Muni
> 
Would you like to see how these opulences are specifically demonstrated in a particular story from Krishna's life?