vegan.panda Posted March 2, 2024 (edited) Hello everyone, I am fairly new to Qigong, and have been looking for a path that combines healing with evolution of consciousnesses. I was trying to find my way between different paths like Ren Xue (https://www.renxueinternational.org/), Neiqi Gong (https://www.neiqigongjiaoshiandrea.com/), Spring Forest Qigong, Zhineng. I finally started practicing the first two methods of Ren Xue (Yuan Qigong) after being inspired by the documentary on the teacher's life (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPrn_uy3iU0). He seems like a knowledgeable and humble man. The analysis of the different methods seems to be more expansive than the original Zhineng from where he started, also including concepts like the middle channel, the qualities of the heart and development of Shen. I would love to hear if anyone has an experience of transformation in this path. Also is it considered just qigong or is it comparable to Neidan with the elements it contains-overview of the different methods it contains here Thank you in advance, Andreas Edited March 3, 2024 by vegan.panda 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ST1 Posted August 9, 2024 Hi Andreas, I am familiar with Yuan Tze's system but someone who is a proper student would be better at giving you advice. I have studied almost 1/2 of his system, including his most advanced qigong forms. I do know a few of his students and it has been transformational for them. What I can say is it's very advanced and well rounded compared to most qigong/nei dan systems/teachers I have studied (which tend to be less well rounded and less complete), and a small number of his students, and Yuan Tze himself are supposed to be awakened / achieved self realisation. In terms of qigong, the first 3 levels focus on qigong, with Level 3 being a very advanced Nei dan practice for energetic awakening. Level 3 is not considered crucial for healing or self realisation however. The later levels (4, 5 and 6) focus on awakening the heart , and working with unhelpful patterns of consciousness and the mind, both of which are considered important for expanding one's consciousness and self realisation in his system. You are not expected to do all the teachings however, there is too much, and it's not considered necessary for healing and expansion of consciousness in his system. Some of his awakened students just focused on a few areas. Finding a teacher would probably be the easiest thing so you can work out what would be useful for you. Given the high level of teachings in Ren Xue, I am surprised this teacher hasn't been mentioned here in this forum until now. However he already has a large following in the US, Australia, Europe, New Zealand etc, so perhaps it wasn't relevant. One thing I can say about him is he has real integrity and humbleness (as you mentioned) and his students and his system are imbued with those qualities. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles Posted August 13, 2024 Yuan-Gong-Mountain_high-res.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles Posted April 23 Now, I'm a Level 1 teacher trainee. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeankes Posted May 5 I also started the first two levels and fairly new. Beautiful documentary indeed. Let's see where this is going curious. @vegan.panda are you still practising it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles Posted May 20 https://renxueamericas.org/lessons/yuan-tze-the-early-years/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles Posted May 20 After 9 months of training with Yuan Tze, I'm starting to wake-up properly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shubin Posted May 21 (edited) Nerve heard this guy before as well as so called “人学” ， “圆功” and “圆子”。It is very interesting that this guy speaks "普通话" but on his website you can not find anything written in Chinese except a few chops in Chinese. I watched half part of a video of him, and it seemed for me that I saw an acter instead of a master of qigong. It looks like that he created so called “圆功” in 2013. Sine 1950s there are more than 100 Qigongs practiced in China and they are more than enough for people. I do not understand why someone would "create" one more new qigong. Edited May 21 by Shubin 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirling Posted May 21 9 hours ago, Giles said: After 9 months of training with Yuan Tze, I'm starting to wake-up properly. Is there an improper way to be awake? What does that mean to you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles Posted May 22 https://renxueeurope.org/2025-retreat-germany/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles Posted May 22 On 21/05/2025 at 2:42 AM, Shubin said: Nerve heard this guy before as well as so called “人学” ， “圆功” and “圆子”。It is very interesting that this guy speaks "普通话" but on his website you can not find anything written in Chinese except a few chops in Chinese. I watched half part of a video of him, and it seemed for me that I saw an acter instead of a master of qigong. It looks like that he created so called “圆功” in 2013. Sine 1950s there are more than 100 Qigongs practiced in China and they are more than enough for people. I do not understand why someone would "create" one more new qigong. Why not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted May 22 48 minutes ago, Giles said: Why not? It is because Qigong is Qigong. A names was given to it is what one thinks it is. Given a name to it that makes one's new invention and write a book to make some money! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Shubin Posted June 2 (edited) On 5/22/2025 at 6:06 PM, Giles said: Why not? A Qigong needs time to mature, which means a lots of practice by many people, including generations of masters and students. For developing of theory of the Qigong also needs time. If someone inverted a new Qigong in China last year, most people in Qigong circle would not trust it so they would wait and watch aside. For this guy named "Yuan Tze", we do not even know his real Chinese name. Is he qualified to use the name "Tze (子）" ? Edited June 2 by Shubin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajra Fist Posted June 4 I watched this documentary with interest. He describes a state of 'oneness' as enlightenment. It reminds me of a dharma talk by Guo Gu, heir of Chan master Shen Zhen. I can't find it now, but said he had a moment of acute oneness during a retreat, sparked by watching tree branch fall in the garden. When he presented his teacher with the tree branch, he was sorely rebuked. He came to realise that the state of oneness also needs to fall away for there to be true awakening. (Couldn't find the talk, included a snippet here) And the quote below from his book Quote "But if you get to a point in which you experience the unified state of oneness or awakening, put that down as well!" 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
