Newbie to group

[Xxandra]

Hello.. I'm new to the group. 

I also too the liberty to glance through a few of the conversations. I was under the impression that this was a group for dao practitioners, but I noticed in a lot of the comments there are a lot of minds who aren't open to going with the flow of Dao, but rather whose minds are chained to religion, dogma or tantra...

 

Are there any true Daoists in this group?

[ilumairen]

Well, needless to say I’ll be keeping an eye on you for a wee bit - to see if you are actually as confrontational as this initial post indicates you may be.

 

In any case, welcome Xxandra.

[Nungali]

8 hours ago, Xxandra said:

Hello.. I'm new to the group. 

I also too the liberty to glance through a few of the conversations. I was under the impression that this was a group for dao practitioners, but I noticed in a lot of the comments there are a lot of minds who aren't open to going with the flow of Dao, but rather whose minds are chained to religion, dogma or tantra...

 

Are there any true Daoists in this group?

 

Yes.

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

Welcome. The best thing you can do here is empty your cup so it may be filled.

[Cobie]

On 16/10/2022 at 11:00 PM, Xxandra said:

…  I noticed in a lot of the comments there are a lot of minds who aren't open to going with the flow of Dao, but rather whose minds are chained to religion, dogma or tantra...

 

Are there any true Daoists in this group?

 Nice friendly intro.  

[Mango]

On 10/16/2022 at 2:00 PM, Xxandra said:

Are there any true Daoists in this group?

Welcome!
Yes, yours truly as a Semi-Taoist.

 

Edited October 17, 2022 by Mango

[Cobie]

On 16/10/2022 at 11:00 PM, Xxandra said:

… Are there any true Daoists in this group?

 

8 hours ago, Mango said:

… Yes, yours truly as a Semi-Taoist.

 ‘true’ and ‘semi’, never the twain shall meet. 

 

 

Edited October 18, 2022 by Cobie

[Mango]

9 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

 ‘true’ and ‘semi’, never the twain shall meet. 

 

 

How much do you understand Chinese Taoism as a religion?

[Cobie]

14 hours ago, Cobie said:

 ‘true’ and ‘semi’, never the twain shall meet. 

@Mango  It’s wordplay. 

 

Edited October 18, 2022 by Cobie

[Cobie]

 

On 18/10/2022 at 12:37 AM, Mango said:

… as a Semi-Taoist.

@Mango what’s a “Semi-Taoist”?

 

 

Edited October 20, 2022 by Cobie

[ilumairen]

6 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

@Mango what’s a “Semi-Taoist”?

 

 

“Lightly toasted”?  

[Cobie]

@Mango (wordplay aside) serous question - what do you mean with Semi-Taoist? 

[Mango]

A true Taoist is an ascetic, not married. One lives in the Taoist shrine 24/7 to follow and practice the principles and canons of Tao.

A Semi-Taoist is not an ascetic and may be married to have a family. One goes to the shrine eight hours a day to perform the daily chore and then returns home in the evening.
 

Another kind of Semi-Taoist only follows the principles of Tao but is nonreligious. 
 

[Cobie]

17 hours ago, Mango said:

…  true Taoist … Semi-Taoist …

Thanks for the info, interesting.   What are the Chinese characters for ‘true Taoist’ and ‘Semi-Taoist’?

[Mango]

29 minutes ago, Cobie said:

Thanks for the info, interesting.   What are the Chinese characters for ‘true Taoist’ and ‘Semi-Taoist’?

 

True Taoist is 道人，道士，真人(high priest)

Semi-Taoist is 道徒

Edited October 22, 2022 by Mango

[Cobie]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

… Semi-Taoist is 道徒

Thanks. 道徒 makes perfect sense.  
 

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by Cobie

[Cobie]

@Mango I Googled ‘Semi-Taoist’ and got no results. It does not seem to be a term much used in English? 
 

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by Cobie

[Mango]

2 hours ago, Cobie said:

@Mango I Googled ‘Semi-Taoist’ and got no results. It does not seem to be a term much used in English? 
 

 

No, it is not. Sometimes, we cannot depend on English to explain everything.

You have to try to look at the term by 顧名思義 if you know what I mean!

Edited October 22, 2022 by Mango

[Cobie]

 

1 hour ago, Mango said:

…  we cannot depend on English to explain everything.

Better to also give the characters then.

 

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by Cobie

[Cobie]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

…  顧名思義 if you know what I mean!

I don’t! 
 

 It’s classical, so “means” whatever ‘the powers that be’ decide it means. 

I will ask my friend what the ‘state of the art’ is:
https://dict-idioms-moe-edu-tw.translate.goog/idiomView.jsp?ID=1178&webMd=1&la=0&_x_tr_sl=zh-TW&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc. 

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by Cobie

[Cobie]

 

30 minutes ago, Cobie said:

… https://dict-idioms-moe-edu-tw.translate.goog/idiomView.jsp?ID=1178&webMd=1&la=0&_x_tr_sl=zh-TW&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc. 

 

Hmm …

 

The English ‘Semi-Taoist’ clearly does not mean 道徒 .

 

I presume this applies then:

“Sometimes it has a slightly derogatory meaning, referring to the name alone, without seeking further explanation.” 


 

Edited October 22, 2022 by Cobie

[Cobie]

 

47 minutes ago, Cobie said:

Better to also give the characters then.

 

I think the onus was on you to have also provided the characters.

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by Cobie

[Cobie]

 

3 hours ago, Cobie said:

… ‘Semi-Taoist’ … does not seem to be a term much used in English? 

(possibly contrary to some) I was being polite!

 

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by Cobie

[Mango]

26 minutes ago, Cobie said:

I don’t! 
 

 It’s classical, so “means” whatever ‘the powers that be’ decide it means. 

I will ask my friend what the ‘state of the art’ is:
https://dict-idioms-moe-edu-tw.translate.goog/idiomView.jsp?ID=1178&webMd=1&la=0&_x_tr_sl=zh-TW&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc. 

 

Since I had explained what it is, you should know what it is by now without pursuing it any further.

[Cobie]

Just now, Mango said:

Since I had explained what it is, you should know what it is by now without pursuing it any further.

 That’s never going to happen.