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Zhan Zhuang and Damp-Heat Syndrome

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Hello everybody!

 

I was lazy, lazy in eating the good food, lazy in moving, and way too busy with my mind. With the years I developed damp-heat and a lot of symptoms followed, like teeth grinding and toothache (dentist could not find anything, said I have healthy teeth), nervousness, panic attacks in the middle of the night.

 

The only thing that made me feel good was my short Zhan Zhuang sessions.

But with time I noticed that after the ZZ I felt overheated and my pains become worse.

 

Naturally I went to get some help, one energetic therapist helped me with the peak of the pain, and acupuncture is now the therapy that slowly continues to treat the damp-heat syndrome. Additionally I changed my diet, eating only "cool" foods and took some herbs against the damp-heat syndrome.

 

Yesterday I tried again Zhan Zhuang and this time it did not make me feel overheated. I indeed felt very relaxed. I even felt energy pulsing through the points my acupuncturist treated.

 

Could it be that when you are in the middle of a damp-heat aggravation, the Zhan Zhuang training adds more energy and makes the "heat" aspect worse? I believe that my diet was the cause of all the problems. Too much milk products, adding to much dampness.

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Yup ZZ will amplify the conditions you create in your body and mind.
 

Particularly any ‘rising’ and heating conditions - as Qi loves to move up - and the extra pressure from ZZ will only fuel the upwards movement.

 

Be careful with staying too long on the ‘cool’ diet while doing qigong or ZZ - it will create stagnation. Avoid Cold and Hot foods altogether.

 

When you do ZZ are you mostly ‘embracing the tree’? Or do you have a posture with arms low?

 

I would suggest focusing on the arms low position - that’s where all the principles should be built… use that to release your mind and your breathing until they both soak down into your lower body. Takes a long time.

 

let the Qi concentrate in the LDT and begin to shape it - also takes long

 

Once the LDT is formed, Qi will naturally descend, as it will be attracted to the magnetic pull of your ldt.

 

Make sure to add a lot of stretching and movement to your routine to get that dampness sorted.

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1 hour ago, Pedro said:

acupuncture is now the therapy that slowly continues to treat the damp-heat syndrome.

 

Not a good technique to treat this difficult condition as it is persistent since it lingers deep in the organs and meridians. Imagine how much dampness people carry in the large intestine which itself is quite a large organ network. 

 

Herbal medicine is a lot better (and quicker).

 

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Could it be that when you are in the middle of a damp-heat aggravation, the Zhan Zhuang training adds more energy and makes the "heat" aspect worse? I believe that my diet was the cause of all the problems.

 

ZZ is like an inflating the balloon type of practice. I'd advice you to start one that involves a lot of movement. If you have a sedentary lifestyle ZZ will aggravate your pre-existing conditions rather that removing them for good.

 

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Too much milk products, adding to much dampness.

 

One reason. There are many others. Liver Qi stagnation is one of the main ones (excessive thinking, computer work, emotional issues, stress, not moving enough due to lifestyle).

 

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Great advices, thank you very much.

I will experiment with the following steps and then give you feedback:

  • ZZ with arms low (very good idea) and not longer than 5 minutes a day and increase slowly
  • Stretching and movement (I take a one hour walk every evening)
  • Herbal medicine for Liver Qi stagnation (for example dandelion)
  • try other forms of Qi Gong (eight brocades?)

If you have more advice, I will be forever grateful!

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Go see a TCM doctor specialised in herbal medicine. It's a lot more than just taking only ONE herb. 

 

Lifestyle, diet and emotional factors all need to be addressed to eliminate this condition. It is a very SLOW process.

 

Also one must stop eating night time meals.

 

Further info:

 

Damp Heat syndrome

 

Do you live in Spain?

 

 

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12 hours ago, Gerard said:

Go see a TCM doctor specialised in herbal medicine. It's a lot more than just taking only ONE herb.

 

The acupuncturist is also a dietary specialist and she told me to eat in a certain way, cold food during spring and summer (energetic cold, not raw, only cooked food and some raw fruits, avoiding eating too late, not skipping meals, drinking hot water and so on, no red meat, more fungi, no bread, no milk and cheese and sweets). She gave me for the first 2 weeks tablets with a Gentian "formula", a combination of 5 herbs.

 

And you are right, I also believe that my problem was night time meals (heavy, with lots of cheese). For too long time. Eating was a way to calm myself.

 

I'm from Germany by the way. Originally from Italy.

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21 hours ago, Pedro said:

She gave me for the first 2 weeks tablets with a Gentian "formula", a combination of 5 herbs.

 

Good luck with that! You'll never heal yourself by taking tablets. Herbal medicine is extremely sophisticated and complex. 

 

Yes she gave you a herb prescribed to drain dampness (long dan cao).

 

You need to obtain fresh herbs and decoct them according to the doctor's instructions. 

 

The most common organs that suffer from damp-heat pathology are the Spleen, the Large Intestine, the Urinary Bladder, and the Gall Bladder.

 

Imagine how much power the herbs need to generate to remove damp-heat from those organs. A lot. Pills do nothing. Go find someone else please.

 

Also treat the underlying conditions that cause damp-heat in the first place: diet, lifestyle (including sexual activity) and unresolved emotions.

 

All the best :)

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22 hours ago, Pedro said:

I also believe that my problem was night time meals (heavy, with lots of cheese). For too long time. Eating was a way to calm myself.

 

I'm from Germany by the way. Originally from Italy.

 

 

Yes that's one biggie: eating night time meals especially in countries like Italy or Spain where eating late at night is a cultural thing. Check the organ networks that are active during those hours and see the effect that eating + digesting (yang) has on them, kind of an explosion: boooom! The energies generated are DAMP + HEAT; they sit and clog the organs and meridians. 

 

 

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I try to find a TCM herb specialist in my vicinity. Else maybe you can suggest me someone who practice online? Or at least a good book?

In my library I have a few books about TCM western herbs (some of the herbs are the same as in traditional chinese medicine).

The strategy of my acupuncturist is to get rid of the heat first, because I suffer according to her (and the symptoms I have) from damp-heat.

My tongue already changed color from 1 month of diet, cooked vegetables, no bread - milk - alcohol - cheese. And I feel better. But there is still some tension inside me. I can feel it that something is happening.

My cramps in my face (stomach meridian, tendency to lock jaw) are a lot better after drinking dandelion tea, combined with some Silybum marianum (all herbs which grows in my vicinity, around the house).

 

And many thanks for your help!!!

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It is a VERY SLOW and GRADUAL process. Herbs work better because their action is synergetic (they work together as a whole and each with their specific function). Like an army; herbs are categorised in a formula as emperor, prime minister, minister & envoy. 

 

Further info:

 

http://www.acupuncture.com/education/tcmbasics/herbprescrip.htm

 

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-you-should-know-about-chinese-herbs/

 

Healing all the organs and getting rid of damp-heat first expect a 10-year period of not more according how chronic it is.

 

1. Forget about books this stuff is very complex. 

2. It is a 10-year study to become a licensed TCM herbalist.

3. I wish I could help you finding a herbalist in Germany but I can't as I live in Australia at the moment. 

4. Try here and hopefully you'll be lucky:

 

https://forums.tcm.com

 

Note:

 

Once heat is cleared focus on STRENGTHENING the SPLEEN, which is an organ that loves nourishing foods like soups and stews. 

 

https://www.thekitchn.com/25-nourishing-d-159118

 

https://nourishedkitchen.com/bone-broth-stocks/soups-and-stew-recipes/

 

Ramen is something the Spleen will LOVE. 

 

https://www.justonecookbook.com/homemade-chashu-miso-ramen/

 

 

 

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