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7 minutes ago, whitesilk said:

Is that 1 Peter or 2 Peter?

 

Sorry, that’s 1 Peter. 

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18 And the disciples of John and of the Pharisees used to fast: and they come and say unto him, Why do the disciples of John and of the Pharisees fast, but thy disciples fast not?

19 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast.

20 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days. 

Mark 2:18-20

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On 2/18/2019 at 11:49 PM, Fa Xin said:

18 And the disciples of John and of the Pharisees used to fast: and they come and say unto him, Why do the disciples of John and of the Pharisees fast, but thy disciples fast not?

19 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast.

20 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days. 

Mark 2:18-20

 

 

"One day he was with his disciples in Judea. He found them sitting together practicing their piety. When he [came up to] his disciples sitting together praying over the bread, [he] laughed.

The disciples said to him, "Master, why are you laughing at [our] prayer? What have we done? [This] is what's right."

He answered and said to them, "I'm not laughing at you. You're not doing this because you want to, but because through this your God [will be] praised." -Gospel of Judas 33-34

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Some thoughts...

 

I’ve heard it said that when Jesus was crucified, all of the Holy beings and Saints of all the ages were gathered around him to witness it, on the subtle plane. In that moment, he was surrounded by a massive gathering of Light, saints of all traditions and times. 

 

How is such a thing possible?

 

If time is an illusion, then there is only the Eternal Now, and that’s where God resides...That every moment is happening now. 

 

Which lead me to think about the stories we read and hear from the Bible, New Testament, the Gita - or from any wisdom tradition. In Mysticism, stories are a living embodiment of truth and power. They did not happen 2000 years ago... they are happening now, as you read it and place yourself there, in the subtle and spiritual dimension. The more you open yourself to this power, the more you channel the energy of the story into your experience, and you are literally there, on a subtle level - you may even be able to smell and hear and taste it. 

 

Thought this thread would be a good place to share. It makes a fun experiment, to go back and reread the stories of your tradition in this manner. You may be surprised to get new insights too 😊 cheers!

 

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9 hours ago, Fa Xin said:

Some thoughts...

 

I’ve heard it said that when Jesus was crucified, all of the Holy beings and Saints of all the ages were gathered around him to witness it, on the subtle plane. In that moment, he was surrounded by a massive gathering of Light, saints of all traditions and times. 

 

How is such a thing possible?

 

If time is an illusion, then there is only the Eternal Now, and that’s where God resides...That every moment is happening now. 

 

Which lead me to think about the stories we read and hear from the Bible, New Testament, the Gita - or from any wisdom tradition. In Mysticism, stories are a living embodiment of truth and power. They did not happen 2000 years ago... they are happening now, as you read it and place yourself there, in the subtle and spiritual dimension. The more you open yourself to this power, the more you channel the energy of the story into your experience, and you are literally there, on a subtle level - you may even be able to smell and hear and taste it. 

 

Thought this thread would be a good place to share. It makes a fun experiment, to go back and reread the stories of your tradition in this manner. You may be surprised to get new insights too 😊 cheers!

 

 

Very beautiful thought.  Thank you. 

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Magus of Strovolos. 

 

A good book of Mystical Christianity. 

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21 minutes ago, Shadow said:

Magus of Strovolos. 

 

A good book of Mystical Christianity. 

 

Heard of it... Ordering it now. Thanks for the recommendation. 😊

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On 2/18/2019 at 1:59 PM, Fa Xin said:

Gospel of Thomas 7. Jesus said, "Lucky is the lion that the human will eat, so that the lion becomes human. And foul is the human that the lion will eat, and the lion still will become human."

In my current understanding, the lion here points to desire, want, or something like devil's temptation, while also pointing that whatever one eats, it will become one with he who eat. So it refers to awareness; be aware when certain temptation occurs, or happening, so one can eat the lion: accept and let go the temptation, so man eats the lion, and the lion becomes human, or choose to fall prey to temptation, and let it devour the conscious mind, either way the lion will become human.

Most visible example to this is something like rage, lust, grief, and most emotional dimension we have. They are like lion always stalking us, and take us by surprise, if we are aware, we can choose to act compulsively or consciously.

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12 hours ago, Megantara said:

In my current understanding, the lion here points to desire, want, or something like devil's temptation, while also pointing that whatever one eats, it will become one with he who eat. So it refers to awareness; be aware when certain temptation occurs, or happening, so one can eat the lion: accept and let go the temptation, so man eats the lion, and the lion becomes human, or choose to fall prey to temptation, and let it devour the conscious mind, either way the lion will become human.

Most visible example to this is something like rage, lust, grief, and most emotional dimension we have. They are like lion always stalking us, and take us by surprise, if we are aware, we can choose to act compulsively or consciously.

I like the way you put this.  Thank you for sharing 😊

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On 6-3-2019 at 5:01 AM, Fa Xin said:

Some thoughts...

 

I’ve heard it said that when Jesus was crucified, all of the Holy beings and Saints of all the ages were gathered around him to witness it, on the subtle plane. In that moment, he was surrounded by a massive gathering of Light, saints of all traditions and times. 

 

How is such a thing possible?

 

If time is an illusion, then there is only the Eternal Now, and that’s where God resides...That every moment is happening now. 

 

Which lead me to think about the stories we read and hear from the Bible, New Testament, the Gita - or from any wisdom tradition. In Mysticism, stories are a living embodiment of truth and power. They did not happen 2000 years ago... they are happening now, as you read it and place yourself there, in the subtle and spiritual dimension. The more you open yourself to this power, the more you channel the energy of the story into your experience, and you are literally there, on a subtle level - you may even be able to smell and hear and taste it. 

 

Thought this thread would be a good place to share. It makes a fun experiment, to go back and reread the stories of your tradition in this manner. You may be surprised to get new insights too 😊 cheers!

 

 

Is that maybe what it means to become immortal for Daoists?

 

Thinking, when a practitioner keeps aligning with unconditional peace and acceptance, because of this action/direction/inertia comes a "time" when transcending time and space happens, automatically ascending to the "highest heaven".

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59 minutes ago, thursday said:

 

Is that maybe what it means to become immortal for Daoists?

 

Thinking, when a practitioner keeps aligning with unconditional peace and acceptance, because of this action/direction/inertia comes a "time" when transcending time and space happens, automatically ascending to the "highest heaven".

 

I've heard different interpretations for what an immortal is.  My own view is similar to that of realizing a light or rainbow body in other traditions.

 

I agree with you about aligning with peace and acceptance.  The inertia of the practice will eventually lead to this place. Technically speaking, we are all in the "Eternal Now", we just view it as linear.  So there's nowhere to really ascend to, rather just an obstructing view that is dropped, to reveal that - albeit it *seems* - sometimes very slowly :D 

 

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i'll chip in on what an immortal is to be thought of... we are life (some may call it chi) in a whole ocean of life itself. When our earthly body dies, our life force returns to the source. What we call our body is given by earth from our earthly mother and father (by blood), our life is given by our divine father, its from the first breath we take as  we are born. When we die, we return our body to earth, and our breath to our father. What we have is what we got in the beginning, which is the same as in the end. But again the life that is inside this body is given to us before we are born, we gather earthly body (physical dimension of our life), to nourish and grow our life  (or light body). Try read parable about talant, and you might get what i mean (try to see talant as what our life is, we can grow/invest it in what now called spirituality, or we can dwell on earthly desires) : Matthew 25:14-30

 

I'm not really satisfied on how i write this, as i myself feel something is not right, but i hope you get what i really meant

Edit: Essene gospel of peace gives me more data about what is missing in our current bible. I think man shouldn't decide what is right and wrong, and let everyone read everything, and decide for themself, which is right for each. In the end, we live our own lives, and we die alone, let there be joy in our birth and death. I'm halfway into reading the 14 scriptures removed from bible,
apocrypha, and many other things... and for now i believe there's one single truth that is called: the word, the law, dao, life, shiva, and whatever human may call it, that however one may try to cover it, it remains to be the truth. And i also believe its what we are seeking here, just be careful with words, because truth is more often more clear said in parables than in naked truth. I mean, its like describing the taste of some fruit you have never tasted before, one may visualize better how it tastes by comparing it to things one have eaten, than to say its sweet, sour, with slight bitter aftertaste. Once you've eaten the fruit, its realized and still no word will be able to describe how it tastes

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2 hours ago, Fa Xin said:

 

I've heard different interpretations for what an immortal is.  My own view is similar to that of realizing a light or rainbow body in other traditions.

 

I agree with you about aligning with peace and acceptance.  The inertia of the practice will eventually lead to this place. Technically speaking, we are all in the "Eternal Now", we just view it as linear.  So there's nowhere to really ascend to, rather just an obstructing view that is dropped, to reveal that - albeit it *seems* - sometimes very slowly :D 

 

 

Seemingly slowly yes :) .. From what I hear, some realize(d) it very fast because their intent was/is full on with the destination in sight. Wanting to see and putting things into action. The ego comes up with lots of tricks to stall, doubt and obscure things, but logically speaking, it seems quite fool proof, even the ego can't argue with logic (but it will anyway).

 

I don't really know much about Daoism, I do wonder what different traditions mean. I've heard of rainbow body and light body.

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John 6:35

"Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”"

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Gospel of Thomas, Verse 33

 

Jesus said, "Preach from your housetops that which you will hear in your ear. For no one lights a lamp and puts it under a bushel, nor does he put it in a hidden place, but rather he sets it on a lampstand so that everyone who enters and leaves can see it's light."

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