johndoe2012 Posted Sunday at 03:45 PM 57 minutes ago, Antares said: Okey, no problem for me. This is Daoist section of the forum. What signs of immortality Ric Weinman has and why his achievements higher than FDD achievements? Why not to explain it here instead of reporting to admins? Who has said he has higher achievements than FDD? You are saying this, nobody else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndoe2012 Posted Sunday at 03:56 PM 18 minutes ago, Antares said: Correct. Heart - mind pureness and ability to see the truth over the lie is very crucial for the Daoist people. The problem these days people mix systems and get confused which way they follow. That is why mixing different system is dangerous or at least it should be done with care until one has high achievements in one system So from this post we can assume you have been following one Daoist system a long time with no mixing. What system is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turnip Posted Sunday at 04:01 PM 18 minutes ago, johndoe2012 said: Turnip, Ric has never said 'I am immortal' but if you look at Antares posts he insinuates 'somebody' outside Flying Phoenix Qigong knows much more than Terry Dunn. And that insinuation comes off as a passive aggressive attack on Terry as if he knows nothing about what he is doing. And 'somebody' told Antares that Garry Hearfield has been kicked out from Bak Fu Pai. In this thread Antares continues with insinuation in how VortexHealing is dangerous in replenishing jing. It goes on and on. It might be his troll communication style but seen from here very bad style of trolling to get a reply. I agree it can be presumptuousness and seem passive aggressive, but I don't think it should be suppressed. I feel many "products" in the spiritual marketplace are unchallenged simply because no one knows enough to challenge them. So I appreciate that kind of thing. However more humility is never a bad thing, and this goes both ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndoe2012 Posted Sunday at 04:14 PM I don't believe in suppression as well. Is VortexHealing perfect? If I thought so, I wouldn't have done anything else. If you look at the secondary practices for ChNN dzogchen there are hundreds. I once believed dzogchen was totally perfect until I realized I made no progress in achieving peace of mind in daily living. All this challenging online, does it achieve peace of mind? Or does it continue a pattern of bad intention towards teachers that are doing their best to help others? I have been on this site for more than 15 years and the teacher bashing continues. Very bad style if you ask me. It only means one thing: teacher bashing comes from an individual who feels bad but it should not be allowed to continue. Toxicity should be stopped when it starts. Peace of mind is the responsibility of the individual. The teacher just provides some tools. As for attainments, I find it totally ridiculously to talk about immortality if one's mind is not even at peace. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turnip Posted Sunday at 04:57 PM 39 minutes ago, johndoe2012 said: I don't believe in suppression as well. Is VortexHealing perfect? If I thought so, I wouldn't have done anything else. If you look at the secondary practices for ChNN dzogchen there are hundreds. I once believed dzogchen was totally perfect until I realized I made no progress in achieving peace of mind in daily living. All this challenging online, does it achieve peace of mind? Or does it continue a pattern of bad intention towards teachers that are doing their best to help others? I have been on this site for more than 15 years and the teacher bashing continues. Very bad style if you ask me. It only means one thing: teacher bashing comes from an individual who feels bad but it should not be allowed to continue. Toxicity should be stopped when it starts. Peace of mind is the responsibility of the individual. The teacher just provides some tools. As for attainments, I find it totally ridiculously to talk about immortality if one's mind is not even at peace. Fair enough. Negativity never helps anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted Sunday at 08:07 PM 4 hours ago, johndoe2012 said: So from this post we can assume you have been following one Daoist system a long time with no mixing. What system is that? Some daoist systems can be mixed but if they both seat in daoist tradition. Let say one can add some taiji exercises to FP system, there should be no problem. But better to practice one or another for a several months and then add the other one. Also some daoist shen gong system might help to any other daoist system one does. But ofc it must be appropriate shen gong system under the teacher supervision within daoist tradition. As personally for me, I did mistakes mixing different systems. The problem is when people mix buddhist, daoist, different qigong methods or even adding occult or new age stuff to daoist methods mixing not only methods but theories and their concepts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted Sunday at 08:11 PM 4 hours ago, johndoe2012 said: Who has said he has higher achievements than FDD? You are saying this, nobody else. You say that Merlin system is more advanced than daoist, right? Correct me if I am mistaken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted Sunday at 08:19 PM 4 hours ago, Turnip said: And that insinuation comes off as a passive aggressive attack on Terry as if he knows nothing about what he is doing. Terry is good chikung teacher, he trained under GMDW supervision and was allowed to teach level1 and has permission to release level1 dvds. He is quite good chikung teacher, I have no any aggression in relation to him. He does his job quite well. If you see any aggression to him in this forum, that's ,may be your own view on that, I am sorry if you see me being offensive to him. Why you talk about Terry at all, I did not talk about him here? I see your aggression to me here, what caused you to be so aggressive here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted Sunday at 08:21 PM 4 hours ago, Turnip said: And 'somebody' told Antares that Garry Hearfield has been kicked out from Bak Fu Pai. WHERE I said it on the forum, dude? I know nothing about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted Sunday at 08:33 PM 4 hours ago, johndoe2012 said: In this thread Antares continues with insinuation in how VortexHealing is dangerous in replenishing jing. What sort of jing it replenishes? Post or pre-natal? Any evidence that it is pre - natal jing replenishment except your own "vision"? What evidence of even first level immortality in this system? Look at Ric' photo and see there any signs of yang shen achievements. How does it relate to Daoist achievements? You come to Daoist thread promoting new age systems, claiming they are "more advanced" than Daoist, when I ask for any evidence you become aggressive to me. Just think about your behavior, dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted Sunday at 09:20 PM 5 hours ago, Turnip said: I feel many "products" in the spiritual marketplace are unchallenged simply because no one knows enough to challenge them. Correct. Some people just buy into some stuff that is sold online and believe the advertisements posted there. But they are not mindful enough to read and study traditional sources on the subject. Most people just download videos and practice without teachers thinking they achieve smth real. That' how people get deviations, sadly but it is truth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Antares Posted Monday at 03:18 PM 3 hours ago, silent thunder said: @Antares Finally fast food expert explained what he is doing here. Go eating it somewhere else Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted Monday at 06:03 PM Maybe this is all best discussed in another thread. It’s gone way off Sifu Dan and the Rizzo bros Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 15 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said: Maybe this is all best discussed in another thread. It’s gone way off Sifu Dan and the Rizzo bros Nothing to discuss to be honest with you. On 28.04.2025 at 12:20 AM, Antares said: Most people just download videos and practice without teachers thinking they achieve smth real. That' how people get deviations, sadly but it is truth People should not even be seeing these videos. It's just that someone downloaded these videos and is practicing without a teacher within the BFP lineage. That's only part of the issue; the next part is that they mix it with something else, adding their own concepts on top of it Edited 20 hours ago by Antares Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted 18 hours ago 2 hours ago, Antares said: People should not even be seeing these videos. It's just that someone downloaded these videos and is practicing without a teacher within the BFP lineage. That's only part of the issue; the next part is that they mix it with something else, adding their own concepts on top of it This is a valid point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites