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[Limahong]

On 7/2/2017 at 5:14 AM, Marblehead said:

No, I didn't change direction.  It was never my direction to go.  I tried to walk that way with someone else but just couldn't.

 

Hi Marblehead,

 

You are always easterly? East as in oriental?

 

Your thoughts on:

'East is East and West is West, and never the twain shall meet'.

 

- LimA

[Marblehead]

2 hours ago, Limahong said:

 

Hi Marblehead,

 

You are always easterly? East as in oriental?

 

Your thoughts on:

'East is East and West is West, and never the twain shall meet'.

 

- LimA

Fair questions.  I will respond.

 

I really don't have an orientation.  I walk in circles a lot.

 

I accept any direction that appears to be valid "for me".

 

The twain have merged within me because as stated previously, Nietzsche (the West) is the root and trunk of my personal philosophy of life where Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu (the East) are the branches and leaves and fruit.  A multicultural tree of life.

 

I do 'forward, backward, left and right' pretty good.  Beyond that it is basically "what is useful to me".

 

[Limahong]

2 hours ago, Marblehead said:

The twain have merged within me because as stated previously, Nietzsche (the West) is the root and trunk of my personal philosophy of life where Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu (the East) a the branches and leaves and fruit.  A multicultural tree of life.re

 

Hi Marblehead,

 

‘East is East and West is West, and never the twain shall meet’ pertains to these from Wikipedia:

 

"The Ballad of East and West" is a poem by Rudyard Kipling. It was first published in 1889, and has been much collected and anthologised since. Its first line is often quoted, sometimes to ascribe racism to Kipling … Those who quote it thus often completely miss the third and fourth lines. The full refrain, with which the poem opens and closes, includes a contradiction of the opening line:

 

Oh, East is East and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,

Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God's great Judgment Seat;

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

When two strong men stand face to face, though they come from the ends of the earth!

 

This may be read as saying that 'it is indisputable that geographic points of the compass will never meet in this life, but that when two strong men [or equals] meet, the accidents of birth, whether of nationality, race, or family, do not matter at all ... the mutual respect such individuals have, each for the character, prowess, and integrity of the other, are their only criteria for judging and accepting one another. Any differences in ethnicity between such individuals are never even considered.

 

From the above quotation from you, East has met West within you as flipsides holistically - in relation to root, trunk, branches, leaves and fruit. 

 

What deeming from a stoney head!

 

My apple tree a subset of your "multicultural tree of life"?

 

You are you - period.

 

- LimA

Edited July 3, 2017 by Limahong
Correct typo error.

[Marblehead]

4 hours ago, Limahong said:

 

My apple tree a subset of your "multicultural tree of life"?

 

You are you - period.

 

- LimA

Yes, keep your apple tree nourished.

 

I am a result of all things that have effected me since birth.  I may become a fig tree in my next life.

 

[Limahong]

20 minutes ago, Marblehead said:

 

I am a result of all things that have effected me since birth

 

Good morning Marblehead,

 

All of us are results of the same. 

 

But we need to travel light by discarding burdens - step by step and bit by bit wuweilessly?

 

Then we end with less for more enroute to the Void?

 

- LimA

 

Edited July 3, 2017 by Limahong
Correct typo error.

[Marblehead]

1 minute ago, Limahong said:

 

Good morning Marblehead,

 

All of us are results of the same. 

 

But we need to travel light by discarding burdens - step by step and bit by bit weiwulessly?

 

Then we end with less for more enroute to the Void?

 

- LimA

 

Yes, it is easier to travel with less baggage.

 

[Limahong]

1 minute ago, Marblehead said:

Yes, it is easier to travel with less baggage.

 

Many people do this?

 

- LimA

[Marblehead]

1 minute ago, Limahong said:

 

Many people do this?

 

- LimA

Physically I did it for twenty years in the Army.

 

Then after my last divorce I starting reducing my attachments and baggage.  Resulted in a much more simple life.  And more enjoyable too.

 

But I'm not a hermit kind of guy.

 

[Limahong]

 

21 minutes ago, Marblehead said:

I starting reducing my attachments and baggage.  Resulted in a much more simple life.  And more enjoyable too.

 

Hi Marblehead,

 

From the quote - less is more.

 

We tend to realise thus after life-charging events?

 

If so, why? Blissful ignorance and supercilious arrogance?

 

- LimA

 

Edited July 4, 2017 by Limahong
Enhancement of sentences.

[Marblehead]

11 minutes ago, Limahong said:

 

 

Hi Marblehead,

 

From the quote - less is more.

I never bought into "less is more" but I would go with something like less is easier.

 

11 minutes ago, Limahong said:

 

We tend to realise thus after life-charging events?

Yeah, those are our "wake-up calls".  

11 minutes ago, Limahong said:

 

If so, why? Blissful ignorance and supercilious arrogance?

I used to quote "Ignorance is bless" but realized that this is not really true.

 

Arrogance is the result of an over-inflated ego.  But I have never seen a problem with having a well-balanced ego.

11 minutes ago, Limahong said:

 

- LimA

 

 

[Limahong]

25 minutes ago, Marblehead said:

I'm not a hermit kind of guy.

 

How about trying to be Kermit?

He seems happy with no limit.

 

I am now going out to throw parts of myself away without coming apart.

 

Cheers.

 

- LimA

[thelerner]

2 minutes ago, Limahong said:

 

How about trying to be Kermit?

He seems happy with no limit.

 

I don't know,

he's married to a pig!?

and

it's never easy being green. 

[Marblehead]

3 minutes ago, Limahong said:

 

How about trying to be Kermit?

He seems happy with no limit.

 

I am now going out to throw parts of myself away without coming apart.

 

Cheers.

 

- LimA

Yeah, but Kermit has a pig for a girl friend.  I'm not going there.

 

How should I say this?  Happy departing?

 

[Limahong]

6 hours ago, Marblehead said:

I never bought into "less is more" but I would go with something like less is easier.

 

Hi Marblehead,

 

I asked cliched questions but your responses are uniquely marbleheaded.

Sure "less is easier". Like loosing weight - less to carry about.

 

6 hours ago, Marblehead said:

Yeah, those are our "wake-up calls"

 

What will happen if we don't heed those "calls"? Sleeping but "awake"? Taoistically - living dead?

 

6 hours ago, Marblehead said:

used to quote "Ignorance is bless" but realized that this is not really true.

 

But is bliss "bless"? So ignorance = unawareness, inexperience, illiteracy, unfamiliarity, obliviousness and witlessness. Or whatever the hell the rest is e.g. marbleheadedness?

 

6 hours ago, Marblehead said:

Arrogance is the result of an over-inflated ego.  But I have never seen a problem with having a well-balanced ego.

 

"Over-inflated ego" but totally barren 'eco'? Have you ever really come across a "well-balanced ego" besides yourself? Male/female? Young/old? Rich/poor? Once upon a time? ...

 

You are you.

 

- LimA

Edited July 4, 2017 by Limahong
Enhancement of sentences.

[Marblehead]

3 hours ago, Limahong said:

 

Hi Marblehead,

 

I asked cliched questions but your responses are uniquely marbleheaded.

Sure "less is easier". Like loosing weight - less to carry about.

That would be one example.  We could likely find hundreds of examples.

3 hours ago, Limahong said:

 

 

What will happen if we don't heed those "calls"? Sleeping but "awake"? Taoistically - living dead?

That would be called "fucking up".

3 hours ago, Limahong said:

 

 

But is bliss "bless"? So ignorance = unawareness, inexperience, illiteracy, unfamiliarity, obliviousness and witlessness. Or whatever the hell the rest is e.g. marbleheadedness?

Yeah, bliss is another one of those words I don't use often.  Too many perspectives.

3 hours ago, Limahong said:

 

 

"Over-inflated ego" but totally barren 'eco'? Have you ever really come across a "well-balanced ego" besides yourself? Male/female? Young/old? Rich/poor? Once upon a time? ...

Oh, my ego is a bit over-inflated.  It's a defense mechanism for me.  Causes any opponents to think twice.

3 hours ago, Limahong said:

 

You are you.

 

- LimA

 

[Limahong]

On 7/4/2017 at 8:33 AM, thelerner said:

He's married to a pig!? it's never easy being green

 

Hi thelerner,

 

You have problem(s) when a frog is married to a pig? Why?

 

"It's never easy being green". How do you know? You are not a frog - you toad.

 

I think it is easy for Kermit to be green. Why? He has no carbon footprint. Yes/no?

 

- LimA

 

[Limahong]

On 7/4/2017 at 8:34 AM, Marblehead said:

Kermit has a pig for a girl friend.  I'm not going there.

 

Hi Marblehead,

 

But of course. Your address is not - No. xx Sesame Street.

 

Anyway you cannot afford to live there. Why? Properties there - pricey.

 

- LimA

[Stosh]

On 7/3/2017 at 7:28 PM, Marblehead said:

Yes, keep your apple tree nourished.

 

I am a result of all things that have effected me since birth.  I may become a fig tree in my next life.

 

Let's hope the afterlife entertains requests, I'm still on board for being a barnacle next go round. 

[thelerner]

4 hours ago, Limahong said:

Hi thelerner,

 

You have problem(s) when a frog is married to a pig? Why?

 

"It's never easy being green". How do you know? You are not a frog - you toad.

 

I think it is easy for Kermit to be green. Why? He has no carbon footprint. Yes/no?

- LimA

 

Well.. If a pig and frog want to get together, who am I to say no.  But in this case the Pig is loud, bossy and has anger issues.  Jump away frog or will you will surely croak. 

Also these big shot millionaires who claim to be for the environment.. once the cameras stop rolling they're off to there McMansions and if you don't believe that then I've got swamp land in Beverly Hills to sell you, and believe you me, once its flattened and dried out, there's green to be made there. 

[Limahong]

1 hour ago, thelerner said:

These big shot millionaires who claim to be for the environment ... I've got swamp land in Beverly Hills to sell you ... once it's flattened and dried out, there's green to be made there. 

 

Good morning thelerner,

 

"These big shot millionaires" ought to be shot for their double standards - green and green.

 

Same in the geographical region where I am. The big guns used 'slash & burn' to clear forest for palm oil cultivation. 

 

Then they blamed the small farmers for starting the fires - crying foul that these farmers were ungrateful as they were given free land to stay.

 

Neighbouring countries were badly affected annually by haze that could last for a month or more. Really pungent haze - visibility poor just a few metres away.

 

These culprits again cried foul - that we the neighbours were ungrateful  for eleven months of fresh air. They said - "What is just one month of inconvenience?".

 

Currently there are inter-governmental initiatives to combat the haze.

 

But come on: Money + Power + Politics = *X^# %.

 

I give up on these green scumbags.

 

Kermit and Ms Porky - may your wedded life be 'bless + bliss' (courtesy Marblehead).

 

- LimA

Edited July 6, 2017 by Limahong
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[Limahong]

On 7/4/2017 at 8:34 AM, Marblehead said:

How should I say this?  Happy departing?

 

Hi Marblehead,

 

Happy departing? To me it means - 'happy dying'.

 

It is such a waste to die on a weekend.

 

Monday morning - happy departing? Maybe.

 

Happy weekend.

 

- LimA

Edited July 7, 2017 by Limahong
Correct typo error.

[Marblehead]

1 hour ago, Limahong said:

 

Hi Marblehead,

 

Happy departing? To me it means - 'happy dying'.

 

It is such a waste to die on a weekend.

 

Monday morning - happy departing? Maybe.

 

Happy weekend.

 

- LimA

That was referring to your letting loose of attachments in that post above.  Depart the attachments but all of "you" is still present.

 

No, nothing about dying unless you consider death of your attachments.

 

[Limahong]

3 hours ago, Marblehead said:

Nothing about dying.

 

Hi Marblehead,

 

But of course - no dying on weekend.

It's Saturday - time to spend & spend.

Spend? Money.

On? Your honey.

By? Our Stoney.

 

Enjoy pulling your leg.

Thank you for being with us.

 

- LimA

[Limahong]

On 7/4/2017 at 7:28 AM, Marblehead said:

Yes, keep your apple tree nourished.

I am a result of all things that have effected me since birth.  I may become a fig tree in my next life.

 

Hi Marblehead,

 

As a self-respecting Taoist, will it not be more becoming of you to be a peach tree in your next fruitful life? Why?

 

Appropriate answers may be found in:

Trees and religion: Taoism – Arboriculture (arboriculture.wordpress.com/2016/12/10/trees-and-religion-taoism).

 

Such answers from this source pertain to these:

 

(i) "With regards to the important trees ... within Taoism, one can certainly identify the peach ...as occupying a high rank".

 

(ii) "This is because it is said that the eight immortals ...  frequented banquets hosted by the Queen Mother of the West (‘Xiwangmu‘) in the Kunlun mountains".

 

(iii) "The abode of the Queen was home to the Peach Tree of Immortality (the Tree of Life) that blossomed every 3,000 years",

 

(iv) "That is where the eight immortals sustained their immortality, having eaten the fruit of the Tree during a particular banquet".

 

(v) "The (carved) stones and skin of peach fruit are also used to make talismans, as they are used to aid in the process of conducting an incantation".

(vi) "The wood of the peach also has religious importance, where it is used to construct ritual instruments that ward off demons".

 

(vii) "Symbolically, the peach also holds importance, where it is the tree that represents youth, marriage, wealth, and longevity".

 

(The Queen Mother of the West, depicted next to deer and almost certainly a peach tree in blossom. Source: Hero’s Journey).

 

Marblehead: pardon me for saying this - you are muddle-headed here as in a few other instances.

 

Are you equating the many seeded figs with those hanging below your belt (which are also many seeded)?

 

I can almost hear you saying this - but of course.

 

I give up.

 

- LimA

Edited July 12, 2017 by Limahong
Enhancement of sentence.

[Marblehead]

I don't care much for peaches but I love figs.  I used to make fig brandy when I had a fig tree growing in my yard.

 

The fig nourishes so many different species but the peach not so many.

 

But if you prefer peaches then go ahead on.