Debunking a Creator

[Isimsiz Biri]

If Creator is beyond cause and effect, he would have no way of interacting with our physics.

 

Creator has created cause and effect. Creator interacts with our physics. There is no contradiction.

Edited December 8, 2013 by Isimsiz Biri

[Stosh]

Couldn't answer my very simple question Rzf ? I guess that means I am so incredibly simple its beneath response. Oh and he answer to brians question is not the answer you gave. The answer is that the data we have suggests that the causality of the universe doesn't appear to defy itself. If there was a causer , the only way to detect it would be some sort of exception to the rules as they already are. Gravity not working etc. A legitimate miracle.

[adept]

Is rongzom fan the new Vaj ?

[C T]

Is rongzom fan the new Vaj ?

when will you stop with the subtle insinuations, adept?

 

Its not helpful to others and yourself.

[zerostao]

Is rongzom fan the new Vaj ?

Vaj did cross my mind a few pages back. and Vaj woulda changed the dynamic of this thread.

i hope Vaj is doing great where ever he is.

but RF is RF and Vaj is Vaj. 2 very differently styled bums. different pov's.

both are, what is that word? edutaining ?

so i slept like 11 hours, i needed it, finals and all, and this morning , no reports at all, let alone on this thread.

i know bums can find away to fiercely debate and self moderate,

well done bums,

carry on

[adept]

when will you stop with the subtle insinuations, adept?

 

Its not helpful to others and yourself.

 

Well, this thread could do with a little humour now and again. I take it Buddhists do humour ?

[ralis]

Is rongzom fan the new Vaj ?

 

Vajraji would have made this thread even more interesting.

[Isimsiz Biri]

 

 

Vaj did cross my mind a few pages back. and Vaj woulda changed the dynamic of this thread.

i hope Vaj is doing great where ever he is.

but RF is RF and Vaj is Vaj. 2 very differently styled bums. different pov's.

both are, what is that word? edutaining ?

so i slept like 11 hours, i needed it, finals and all, and this morning , no reports at all, let alone on this thread.

i know bums can find away to fiercely debate and self moderate,

well done bums,

carry on

 

 

Please do not tell me there is somebody called Vaj who is similar to RongzomFan. One is enough. Really.

Edited December 8, 2013 by Isimsiz Biri

[RongzomFan]

Vaj was a person who claimed to have seen all 32 planes of existence in a vision.

[ralis]

Please do not tell me there is somebody called Vaj who is similar to RongzomFan. One is enough. Really.

 

Read some of the old threads started by Vajrahridaya and you will see what several of us are referring to. I was heavily involved in those threads.

[RongzomFan]

Creator has created cause and effect. Creator interacts with our physics. There is no contradiction.

 

Then the creator changes.

 

And something causes that change.

[RongzomFan]

Please do not tell me there is somebody called Vaj who is similar to RongzomFan. One is enough. Really.

 

And there are enough fundamentalist muslims.

[Isimsiz Biri]

Then the creator changes.

 

And something causes that change.

 

When you paint a wall, do you change? What kind of logic is that? I could not hear you, what? Satanic? You naughty boy!

[RongzomFan]

You say that it is debunked, yet it is not.

 

Kalam cosmology is debunked.

[RongzomFan]

When you paint a wall, do you change? What kind of logic is that? I could not hear you, what? Satanic? You naughty boy!

 

Of course I change.

 

My arm moves.

 

And something causes that.

[Isimsiz Biri]

And there are enough fundamentalist muslims.

 

It is only me, being Muslim. Fundamentalist? You can tell it for your Wahhabi friends. They are my enemies just like you.

[Isimsiz Biri]

Kalam cosmology is debunked.

 

RongzomFan is server of Mara.

[Isimsiz Biri]

Of course I change.

 

My arm moves.

 

And something causes that.

 

So the wall has been painted. What happened?

Edited December 8, 2013 by Isimsiz Biri

[RongzomFan]

RongzomFan is server of Mara.

 

Mara is believing in a Creator.

[RongzomFan]

So the wall has been painted. What happened?

 

So do you admit the Creator changes?

[Isimsiz Biri]

Read some of the old threads started by Vajrahridaya and you will see what several of us are referring to. I was heavily involved in those threads.

 

If that Vajrahridaya is also serving Satan like RongzomFan, thank you, I would rather not.

[Isimsiz Biri]

So do you admit the Creator changes?

 

Not at all, you demon. The wall has been painted, the painter is still the same.

[RongzomFan]

If that Vajrahridaya is also serving Satan like RongzomFan, thank you, I would rather not.

 

One man's satan, is another man's allah

[RongzomFan]

Not at all, you demon. The wall has been painted, the painter is still the same.

 

Without the painter's arm moving, there would be no painting.

[Isimsiz Biri]

Vaj was a person who claimed to have seen all 32 planes of existence in a vision.

 

If this is the case (you can not be trusted), he is obsessed by negatives.