Jox Posted January 7, 2012 Dear all... I have been practicing meditation for a five years now. Sitting on the chair, as thought in Healing Tao. As we know, different systems uses different methods and different sitting postures. Probably there are pros & cons for each sitting posture, from the different point of view... I invite you to share your experiences and opinions of different sitting postures or their combinations in meditation... Jox, Image source: http://www.google.si/imgres?q=cloudcorner.org&um=1&hl=sl&sa=N&tbm=isch&tbnid=5SuJKr57MGDjGM:&imgrefurl=http://www.cloudcorner.org/Instructions-for-New-Members.php&docid=2ouBwjW_6aKGVM&imgurl=http://www.cloudcorner.org/images/Sitting_methods.gif&w=567&h=585&ei=d1wIT8TyIIeE-wbP3uCwAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=294&vpy=144&dur=432&hovh=228&hovw=221&tx=111&ty=122&sig=104771873120382411147&page=1&tbnh=142&tbnw=133&start=0&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&biw=1024&bih=657 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted January 7, 2012 Dear all... I have been practicing meditation for a five years now. Sitting on the chair, as thought in Healing Tao. As we know, different systems uses different methods and different sitting postures. Probably there are pros & cons for each sitting posture, from the different point of view... I invite you to share your experiences and opinions of different sitting postures or their combinations in meditation... Jox, Image source: http://www.google.si/imgres?q=cloudcorner.org&um=1&hl=sl&sa=N&tbm=isch&tbnid=5SuJKr57MGDjGM:&imgrefurl=http://www.cloudcorner.org/Instructions-for-New-Members.php&docid=2ouBwjW_6aKGVM&imgurl=http://www.cloudcorner.org/images/Sitting_methods.gif&w=567&h=585&ei=d1wIT8TyIIeE-wbP3uCwAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=294&vpy=144&dur=432&hovh=228&hovw=221&tx=111&ty=122&sig=104771873120382411147&page=1&tbnh=142&tbnw=133&start=0&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&biw=1024&bih=657 Chunyi Lin of http://springforestqigong.com did the seven week full lotus no food, no sleep, no water cave meditation in China as is practiced through master Zhang http://qigongmaster.com Chunyi Lin says 20 minutes of full lotus equals four hours of any other type of meditation. Have fun. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowowtao Posted January 7, 2012 Half lotus with one heal below pressing on the perineum prevents loss -not as effective as full lotus but, some times enough to keep everything going up when external influences hinder. Perineum-open is most important effect of any posture and even when moving because the reins between throat and crown close as soon as the perineum closes, then upwards sublimation stops. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted January 7, 2012 Perineum-open is most important effect of any posture and even when moving because the reins between throat and crown close as soon as the perineum closes, then upwards sublimation stops. Interesting. What about sealing the "lower magpie bridge", for instance during breathing? That seems to create a lot more upward sublimation, yet the perineum is contracting. What are the reigns between throat and crown? Constriction below does seem to effect the upper body through inner tension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowowtao Posted January 7, 2012 Interesting. What about sealing the "lower magpie bridge", for instance during breathing? That seems to create a lot more upward sublimation, yet the perineum is contracting. is this translation like the one you reference? Magpie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted January 7, 2012 Beyond sitting style there is the importance in a straight back, not rigidly straight though. It can be hard to know if the back is proper without someone giving you a 'straightening' adjustment. For years my lower back tended to slump during longer periods of sitting. I also like the Stillness-Movement style of seated meditation which encourages a slight natural rocking motion while meditating. For me, it slows down the depth a little, but helps me sit longer and stay fresher. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Bowowtao, Yup. Another thing...I've heard some Tibetan yogis describe the purpose of sealing the perineum (for instance with siddhasana) or raising the perineum (as in Taoist breathing) as a means of releasing the knots that bind the central channel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUDCGpsgWo Starting at 7:24 Edit: Actually, I understand the magpie bridges as the two connecting points between the front and back vessels. The tongue touching the roof of the mouth connects the two as the "upper", and activating and connecting the area between CV1 and GV1 does the same as the "lower". Edited January 7, 2012 by Scotty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowowtao Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Sublimation is refining elechtochemicals in many stages. Basically there is a refining in the spine -three channels. also refining "sublimation" by the chakras 6 stages.. upwards to the midbrain. Some channels or bridges connect stem cells, bindu (vacuums) and chakras (organs/glands) so, there are breaks in the cycle between blood(mag) nerve(elec)and like the upper "magpie" between pituitary/third ventricle(water) and wind base of the nose. There most subtle "bridge" is Air channel that actually cycles outside the body between the ears and nose. Well, the ears hear the song like angels or harps of the elixer You've notices some but not all images of Pingala and Aida enter the ears? A lot of those image are presenting only process of the chakras (not bindu or spine) that can be taken as one complete cycle separate from the others. Perineum and crown are like the power plant of a non physical Central channel that relates to the ganglion and a hidden nerve between them. I think the translation i linked above represents only one of three sources of "elixer" that is rare elements house in the bladder, prostate and rectum that form Ammrit, Soma and Amrosia. Most arguments between practitioners are about the differences between the mudras that access those pearls.. "base of the spine" in the translation is confusing because it can relate to radiation from the tail bone marrow (rainbow light) and or to nerve channels between the base of the spine and bladder, prostate and rectum In either case it references one of the three starting points of sublimation to form "elixer" side note: when the water comes down and fills the mouth this is a link between water and air, just to show that energy channels are not all inside the body -chakras or endocrine also communicate in this way outside the body as radiant light bearing chemicals Edited January 7, 2012 by bowowtao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowowtao Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) My link Edited January 7, 2012 by bowowtao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted January 7, 2012 Probably there are pros & cons for each sitting posture, from the different point of view... I invite you to share your experiences and opinions of different sitting postures or their combinations in meditation... Something I like about sitting in a chair is that it doesn't hyperplantarflex the feet, compared to all other postures. I find it to be the most comfortable and healthy position all around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ya Mu Posted January 7, 2012 Something I like about sitting in a chair is that it doesn't hyperplantarflex the feet, compared to all other postures. I find it to be the most comfortable and healthy position all around. Chair is good. I bought the neatest small present this Christmas that is a rocking foot platform (one for each foot). Sit at a desk and rock the foot forward and backward. Pumps blood and exercises muscles, and I would think help to keep open the gate at the ankles. I may get some for myself to experiment with while sitting in chair. They were only 10 bucks or so; got them at amazon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted January 8, 2012 Any seated meditation is good, just use the one which suits you best. Learning to master the breathe in and out process is the most important thing. Focus, focus, focus. The posture adopted is irrelevant. You can reach enlightenment by washing your clothes or sipping a cup of tea as long as you are entirely focused in the process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites