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54 minutes ago, MegaMind said:All the core teachings are removed from it, leaving an empty skeleton bearing little to no resemblance to what we actually practice.
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21 minutes ago, MegaMind said:"the pics used for guidance are wrong"
We go by the video John provided.
And what is Jim doing in the pics?
Having a picnic? Or practicing random qigong stances/systems like he used to?
Again no comment on the substance of my arguments. I don't give a f*ck what John teaches on video if his self-proclaimed top student can't have basic alignment in stances and had the audacity to teach.
Isn't Jim the one depicted on the pics with the UNTRAINED and WEAK horse stance yes or no? YES this is JIM!
So it doesn't matter what teachings are missing, if the pics used for guidance are wrong and they make the fact that Jim was an amateur not able to teach, painfully obvious!
Of everything else my post commented like Jim having a weak and completely untrained horse stance, your practice not being unique at all and having all the characteristics of scamgong, you only comment on the metaphor?!??!!
GTFO here and take your scamgong 2 level whateverPie with you as you leave!
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3 minutes ago, MegaMind said:"I don't give a f*ck what John teaches on video"
That much is certainly clear.
"your practice not being unique"
What is posted here is certainly not unique.
All the core teachings are removed from it, leaving an empty skeleton bearing little to no resemblance to what we actually practice.
Again no comment on the substance of my arguments. I don't give a f*ck what John teaches on video if his self-proclaimed top student can't have basic alignment in stances and had the audacity to teach.
Isn't Jim the one depicted on the pics with the UNTRAINED and WEAK horse stance yes or no? YES this is JIM!
So it doesn't matter what teachings are missing, if the pics used for guidance are wrong and they make the fact that Jim was an amateur not able to teach, painfully obvious!
Of everything else my post commented like Jim having a weak and completely untrained horse stance, your practice not being unique at all and having all the characteristics of scamgong, you only comment on the metaphor?!??!!
GTFO here and take your scamgong 2 level whateverPie with you as you leave!
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6 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:Which also shows you have no grasp of Robert Anton Wilson or what the fuck the quote actually means.
Why don't you get fucked already and get off this thread?
THIS IS ABOUT THE VOLCANO, NOT YOUR FUCKING HARD-ON FOR BEING A DICK IN EVERY THREAD YOU INVADE AND FORCE YOUR AGENDA ON, YOU WORTHLESS SCROTAL SACK.
The volcano explodes because it become frustrated by the work of Christian missionaries imposing colonialism on the locals!
What don't you understand????
Yeah it took it 400 years to figure it out but it found it's way and boy is it mad!!
It also blew up because of climate change! Not a hoax! Never!
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16 minutes ago, MegaMind said:What is detailed here isn't what we practice.
We prefer John's instruction on video.
Again no comment on the substance of my arguments. I don't give a f*ck what John teaches on video if his self-proclaimed top student can't have basic alignment in stances and had the audacity to teach.
Isn't Jim the one depicted on the pics with the UNTRAINED and WEAK horse stance yes or no?
Of everything else my post commented like Jim having a weak and completely untrained horse stance, your practice not being unique at all and having all the characteristics of scamgong, you only comment on the metaphor?!??!!
GTFO here and take your scamgong 2 level whateverPie with you as you leave!
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Well, according to Gendao it all comes to this:
"X incident happens and triggers a crisis!"
1. "Was the area colonized?" If yes the answer is Colonialism is to blame! If No goto 2
2. "Did Christian Missionaries ever appear there?" If yes then Christianity is obviously at fault. If no goto 3.
3. "Do the people implement environmental protection measures there?" If no then Capitalism is to blame. If yes goto 4.
4. "If you got here you missed one of the true reasons* of the crisis!". Goto 1 and answer "correctly" this time.
*What do you mean that volcanoes erupt by themselves? It is colonialism! Duh!
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On 1/18/2020 at 8:36 PM, MegaMind said:"Obscure references to "feeling well, rejuvenated, sleeping well, having more energy" are head-signs for scamgong."
We are not making any such claims.
Seriously????
Of everything else my post commented like Jim having a weak and completely untrained horse stance, your practice not being unique at all and having all the characteristics of scamgong, you only comment on the metaphor?!??!!
GTFO here and take your scamgong 2 level whateverPie with you as you leave!
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On 1/18/2020 at 11:01 PM, Taomeow said:Had to look up what "Altered Carbon" means. Hmm... never saw it, looks like another stolen idea, fictionized. Been happening since I was a kid. Has it ever happened to anyone else? You think of something in the privacy of your own mind -- and before you know it it's a fracking blockbuster?..
There is a saying that all art is plagiarizing someone else.
AI could be dangerous but if it allows us to go interstellar within the next 100 years we should go for it.
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6 hours ago, Taomeow said:Yeah, we wish.
No, the most likely scenario is being overwritten with someone else's consciousness once you're equipped with a chip. It's their way to be immortal. Who are "they?" That's a trillion dollar question. Maybe just our very own very rich transhumanists. Maybe those they serve who may well have long been immortal via this method, hopping planets or civilizations on this one, instigating technological progress, reaping the benefits, using up and discarding the "resources." The resources R us.
Quite a few "philosophical technophiles" who think transhumanism is the answer naively believe that their own consciousness will eventually be stored in some big computer as a way to stay alive once the body is deceased. No. Someone else's consciousness will be stored on your chip, in your own fully functional body belonging to someone who can afford immortality. Someone who has talked you into the irresistibly seductive benefits of implementing this technology on a mass scale. Someone wealthy and powerful enough to not even consider dying as an option -- someone for whom killing is the ticket and has always been. Except technological progress makes it possible to kill just the mind and use the body for one's own. Once it wears out, it will be discarded and the next body will be provided.
Someone has been watching too much Altered Carbon.
4 hours ago, Nungali said:We could say that about all of western society . Imagine the internet going down for a week !
The problem wouldn't be how people would react but the payment methods and most likely banks. All would collapse due to lack of cash or lack of payment. How would you place orders? How would one process them? It isn't western society only. All of the world would collapse if banks stop working.
4 hours ago, Ocean Form said:Elon Musk says he thinks we live in a simulation. Like he literally thinks we're inside a videogame.
We have no way of knowing. We only reject it because of Occam's razor and the fact that it is a theory that is impossible to disprove so it can't be scientifically tested.
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5 hours ago, MegaMind said:Yes in a letter John wrote to Jim.
So if i write a letter in Indonesian or Malay to you, you would assume that i wrote it by myself and not through intermediaries?
John doesn't speak English and a letter is not proof for God's sake!
You remind me of a tv program where the presenter was talking to teams in isolation and told each one of them that they were his favorite team.
Letters don't mean jack. Now him saying that, in Indonesian in front of his senior students is some kind of proof. Do you have that? NO? Then you are a scammer because you perpetuate and insist on something that you cannot prove despite being asked repeatedly to provide proof!
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8 hours ago, GSmaster said:I have actually stored those Images in some remote place
Anyway this is all there is to western mopai
@Goku76 MM's little cult was very mad when these leaked out in public, as nothing makes them unique any longer
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jim's poses only betray that he was an amateur. Feet in horse stance not parallel. Hands too high, then at some other pic his hands are at a different height while doing the same exercise.
These pics show bad technique that could be fixed by a master within one or two months.
Are the WMPs trying to convince me that jim was ready to teach?
Judging from the pics he wasn't ready at all!
5 hours ago, MegaMind said:If we had to the power to force people who claim it is a fraud, a hoax, etc, to actually practice and see the reality of it for themselves certainly we would, but that isn't something we can do.
Nice goalpost movement! But it disqualifies you in football.
Well it is a fraud 100% because you are not clear about what the expected results of the first levels of your practice are.
Obscure references to "feeling well, rejuvenated, sleeping well, having more energy" are head-signs for scamgong.
Sensing qi isn't unique to any practice really.
What do you expect them to see and why do you believe that it is unique in mopai and for example not happening in Kriya yoga?
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No steve, NO!
This is not the case.
These people are trying to force others to practice their system, disregarding free will and also showing complete disregard for other effective systems in the process.
Why on earth should we allow them to carry out this twisted plan?
From megamind's latest posts we can deduce they have been taken over by a very insidious thoughtform.
We shouldn't ignore them, they won't go away! It has been over a decade that they have no access to anything substantial despite training and this fact has not dissuaded them at all!
They are dangerous.
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2 hours ago, Goku76 said:Megamind hey if you know how to do mopai PLEASE send me real instructions or something explain, and everyone is just contradicting each other some say that mopai is fake because of Jim not being a verified teacher, and some are saying he is if it is true that you learned from Jim himself, and since we all have seen that Jim has had actual progress with this please share your knowledge.
Assuming that 76 is your birth year, if all the wisdom you have to show for your 44 years in this life, lies above us, then i pity you!
You trust a random guy, in a forum, on the internet, with no qualifications and you don't even know if he has access to what you ask or not.
Do you send money to televangelists?
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9 hours ago, MegaMind said:I believe I referred to it as the system I study, and not directly as Mo Pai.
9 hours ago, MegaMind said:This is not true, not even a little bit.
9 hours ago, MegaMind said:We literally do not charge anyone, anything.
We also do not accept donations of any type.
9 hours ago, MegaMind said:This is not true, not even a little bit.
No one in our group has committed suicide.
9 hours ago, MegaMind said:"Multiple cases of psychoses have arisen in the group"
This is not true, not even a little bit.
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17 minutes ago, MegaMind said:I can't answer that question because I don't even know most of those people, and others only barely.
That is not what he asked! He asked you if they belong to your group or not.
Do these five member belong to the mopai group (or did they belong at the time they wrote these) or not?
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5 hours ago, MegaMind said:Literally none of that is true.
GSmaster on the right, standing on Megamind's nose.
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1 minute ago, SirPalomides said:I picked up this demonic soul-sucking black sword in Chinatown the other day, anyone know any good Taiji sets for that?
Singing Elric style?
John Daker style?
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3 hours ago, MegaMind said:Nothing we share publicly.
Vid or it didn't happen!
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12 minutes ago, Goku76 said:Do you think that it is possible to find anybody who has any real instructions to do it, like the instructions online i heard that the so called level 1 that's online is just basic neigong right?
Mopai on the first levels is a normal qigong system.
13 minutes ago, Goku76 said:and level 2 may cause some injury but if you think about it the analogy of compressing energy is like tai chi where they condense energy in the bones,mo pai is basically the same except where the energy is condensed, is in the dantien.
Compressing qi is never safe unless you know what you are doing.
14 minutes ago, Goku76 said:To be honest i don't really care to master the other levels of mo pai just recently i have read the "seeking the master of mo pai" and where Jim explained how he knocked down the books, and pushed the glass.
In an interview before he died, Jim claimed that he used Chang's yin field to do it and that he wasn't capable of doing it otherwise.
15 minutes ago, Goku76 said:And i used he same method of dropping the breath into the dantien and put my hand out and i had my mother standing 5 feet away and to raise her hand up to mine and before I could even try to pull her hand with chi she told me to stop because she said her hand was getting very hot and that a electricity feeling shot up her arm to her ear and stung. So i guess it works but i want to hear your opinions on it so thank you
This is a very bad idea because you don't know what you are doing. What if you harm your mother? It is a real possibility.
It is possible even for advanced practitioners to do something wrong and damage themselves or those intended to be cured.
In general, messing with other people's energies is not recommended because it has karmic repercussions.
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5 hours ago, Taomeow said:Yeah, and as long as you carefully substitute "Zionist" for "Jew" you can say everything a nazi would say and be in the politically correct zone cleared for you by "some scholars." Congratulations.
I guess Arab citizens of Israel could tell a lot about their suffering to those "scholars" if the latter bothered to ask. Nevermind, here's some statistics of the horrors of the "racist apartheid" in action for the accidental tourist:
20% of the population of Israel are Arabs
• 23% of Israeli doctors are Arabs
• 46% of Israeli pharmacists are Arabs
• 28% of hi-tech students at the Technion are Arabs
• 16% of the students in all of Israeli higher education are ArabsShocking I'm sure. Care to compare to any other country with a minority population? Take your pick.
What a disappointing day it has been.
Taomeow are you of Jewish descent?
I really cannot recognize you in this thread. If you are, that would explain a lot. If not, then why the emotional investment?
I am not teasing you not challenging you, all i want is to understand this weird outburst.
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1 hour ago, GSmaster said:I believe that's what happened.
I don't feel like I am dealing with humans here, nobody can be this dumb, and the way they serve this egregore is far above what they were given.
If that is the case then WMP are far more dangerous than the practices themselves!
Doesn't it strike you as odd that for a group so obsessed with video evidence, there is no recording of this "outside sign"?
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12 hours ago, GSmaster said:You said it changes lives but dont say how.
What exactly changed in your life practicing 2b?
Why would ppl want to try your practice.
If you are not even able to formulate what it gives?
They join the zerg. Live for the swarm!
On a more serious tone, I am getting very worried about how their answers become uniform and repetitive like they are drones or something.
Combined with the fact that they claim to be ex-atheists i am starting to believe that they have fallen victim to a very powerful entity or astral parasite.
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5 minutes ago, Starjumper said:If you think your answer implies you are in the Mo Pai lineage that is a god damn lie!
Of course it is a lie but we expect from him to have at least the decency to admit that they are not a legitimate fragment from the lineage but simple copyright thieves.
As it was mentioned above many times, nobody in the dao bums would care to bother if they said that they practice something similar to what John Chang practices and that they cannot duplicate what he does.
They deliberately leave the notion that they are part of MoPai hanging and that what they practice actually leads somewhere instead of a dead end.
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Again no comment on the substance of my arguments. I don't give a f*ck what John teaches on video if his self-proclaimed top student can't have basic alignment in stances and had the audacity to teach.
Isn't Jim the one depicted on the pics with the UNTRAINED and WEAK horse stance yes or no? YES this is JIM!
So it doesn't matter what teachings are missing, if the pics used for guidance are wrong and they make the fact that Jim was an amateur not able to teach, painfully obvious!
Of everything else my post commented like Jim having a weak and completely untrained horse stance, your practice not being unique at all and having all the characteristics of scamgong, you only comment on the metaphor?!??!!
GTFO here and take your scamgong 2 level whateverPie with you as you leave!