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This is interesting, and not the first time I've heard this either: Rob Coons wrote: Which would back up Sahaja's point.

I can't find my post on the other site. Let me try to explain it here. BTW The Microcosmic orbit must be practiced before the Macrocosmic orbit. Here is how I would like to believe it. Please keep in mind the phrase of "chi sinken to the dantian(氣沈丹田). We all knew that the Ren(任)meridian is in front of the body and the Du(督) meridian is in the back of the body. The Ren meridian runs through the LDT and connect to the Ren meridian. However, if one cannot breathe deep down to the LDT, then, let's assume that there is a gap between the two meridians. The idea of connecting the two meridians was to sink chi to the LDT. To close the gap is by practice breathing until the gap was closed. The gap was considered to be closed is when 氣, chi(breath), was sunk deep into the dantian. As soon chi hits the bottom of the LDT, it was said that the realm of Microcosmic orbit has been accomplished. The blockage of the two meridians has been cleared and connected. Hereinafter, continuing with the deep breathing, the chi will be able to flow through both meridians. At this stage, it was said that the Macrocosmic orbit has been accomplished. This is the only logical explanation that I can come up with to satisfy my curiosity. Otherwise, unless, someone else could come up with something to convince everybody.

Hi everyone! Been practicing Qi Gong on and off for a little over 5 years but first came across it more than 13 years ago via books - very excited to learn from this forum and connect with like-minded individuals

This verse needs to be covered more in 2025. The context here is being held at gunpoint by a thief intending to steal ones possessions. Jesus advises not to resist under circumstances where many might lose their lives by refusing to hand their possessions over. It is not and never was intended to endorse pacifism as is seen here:

Hey everyone I’m really curious if anyone here has had personal experience improving their nearsightedness (myopia) through Qigong, acupressure, or acupuncture. I’ve come across some reports about eye Qigong or relaxing and quiescent Qigong practices that supposedly helped people strengthen their vision or even reduce their need for glasses. but it’s hard to tell what’s real and what’s just anecdotal. I’d love to hear from anyone who has: - Noticed actual changes in their diopters or visual clarity - Found specific exercises or routines that made a difference - Used breathing, relaxation, or visualization as part of their eye practice - Managed to reduce or stop wearing glasses altogether - Even small improvements or just stabilization stories are super welcome If you have any book or video recommendations on Qigong for the eyes or acupressure for vision, I’d be really grateful too! Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences

Once again, a big thanks to all of you. Met him today, and I do suspect that the well wishes of the wizard bums made a difference in him, truly.

I haven't had any impressive improvements in my prescription but possibly slight improvement (can't say for sure it was qigong) I have gone from -4.0|-3.75 to -3.75|-3.25. I don't do anything specifically for eyes, tcm, qigong, or otherwise. I will say I'm not convinced qigong can fix one of the major causes of near or farsightedness - As far as I'm aware your eyes develop in childhood and stabilize into a permanent shape around late childhood/early adulthood when you stop growing. If you eye was elongated (or shortened) before then (ie you had glasses as a kid), all the structure around your eye would already be formed and that shape will be more or less permanent. And since that shape is the cause of the vision issue, it's likely there to stay without medical intervention to reshape the lens to compensate for the the eye misshape. I am not a tcm or optomotrist, but it seems to me age/stress related vision decline or issues caused be disease could be a promising to see real improvement in though as those are not really structural. But again, I'm just throwing out my thoughts, I am not any kind of eye doctor or anything.

One exception is Flying Phoenix Qigong. I know it is marketed as a health system but my own research indicates that the qi does not inflate the 'you' and one of the emptiness meditations could possibly lead to realization of emptiness if one does it for extended periods.

It feels like a substance, but most likely is not. Substances can be measured, so ... (and in neudan it is not the Du and Ren channels)

As far as Xing and Ming, in my experience the mind and body are inextricably connected (sorry Descartes) . To quote my various teachers “When you work at one layerit affects all the other layers (though not equally).” With all the various circulations you change the chemistry of the brain that both physically changes your body as well as affects your character. There are even strong “Ming” effects of just sitting with relaxed attention at the base of a tree in lotus seat with dhyana/baoyuan mudra …doesn’t even have to be a bodhi tree, pretty much any tree will work. Just have to deal with the ants!

Sometimes when you think that you are doing zazen with an imperturbable mind, you ignore the body, but it is also necessary to have the opposite understanding at the same time. Your body is practicing zazen in imperturbability while your mind is moving. (“Whole-Body Zazen”, Shunryu Suzuki; June 28, 1970, Tassajara [edited by Bill Redican])

When the substances really move and hit/pass the jade pillow going into you head, it’s quite intense…especially initially. There is no uncertainty of what is going on. It’s not subtle at all. It’s more like ohhh s***t It’s also pretty clear when it returns below. Very different experience than running just your intention through these areas while you breath.

I have seen this outside martial arts communities often as well, falling into ego, power, desires, etc. I wonder if it is because the path taken is wrong, the student attempted things beyond their skill, or because the right path was taken but the student went astray. Perhaps our shadow parts amplify significantly not because the path or skill was wrong, but so those aspects of ourselves become loud enough to hear, loud enough for us dumb-dumbs to finally see and thus process. But if one does not recognize this and overcome them successfully, it would be easy to find oneself wandering off the path and falling into them like traps without realizing it.

I wonder if bones count as a dan tian for people who do bone condensing practices.

Definitely not MDT related or as an entry point into MDT despite the proximity. You can argue it is not a dantian, as when the work is completed in the back, the Chi would shift to LDT for further processing.

This is what caught my attention also. Many Daoist qigong/martial artists I've learned from have taught to focus on keeping within the body periphery, which can be an issue if the boundary is open. I don't know if this is just an initial position that is later sublated or not. Which is another issue I see in a lot of Daoist-flavored teaching. It appears to me in many cases the "you" increases and the personality becomes quite strong leading to conflict and aggression (and even physical fights that students always seem "forced" into). At least for male teachers with martial arts backgrounds, which is probably 90% of my exposure. Just speculating, but I think because it is often a Ming to Xing path, there are often issues related around money, ego, and power. This seems to be less so with Xing to Ming or dual cultivation schools, but I don't have enough data points there. Of course, Buddhist schools often have issues around power and sex, so it is certainly not a sure thing.

True and my own finding that the Benebell Wen version can release the grasping of the body periphery can't just be done either without other work first. This version could lead to the Dao since the final result is the merging of you with the Dao which is the dissolving of feeling of 'you' in your consciousness - the universe is inside you she calls it.

Sorry to hear about your father my thoughts and prayers are with you.

Agree. Rob Coons mentions 3 different MCOs here https://immortalitystudy.gumroad.com/l/bzsdpm?layout=profile (not endorsing paid stuff but just for the sake of discussion).

My condolences! My mother had a brain tumor at the age of 80. However, she took the Wu Wei approach. She knew how serious of her situation was by taken no action for treatment. She was just left it at that until the time comes. She was a real tough lady!

Mostly . Its a cultural object , like someone might wear a small sword as a pendant or ear rings .... These might suit you ? I have seen him use the bone as a handy tool . However they 'symbolize' such things eg . when someone got 'a talking to ' for an infraction of law he was one of two sitting either side of the person and he had a 'number 7 ' that he was holding . Traditionally he would have got a wack with it but not nowadays .... a bit like the mace on the speakers table ; a symbol of authority and speaking . Joking with me ..... they do that ... and I do it back ( hence my name relating to being 'cheeky' ) ;

Thanks a lot. My hunch is that they will put their faith in the public healthcare system of Norway, but as we get more information, I’ll give him a call and reach out to you on PM in case it get relevant.

Thank you for your thoughtful comments. Yesterday my cats, who are not in the process of pushing things over, pushed one of my statuets to the floor and it broke. Somethines I wonder if there is something symbolic in events like this: My father

I believe the ignorance the Buddha referred to was the ignorance of not knowing the truth of our nature. And not so much as them being unaware of the trail of victims from their actions. But, I could be wrong??

Not sure about Roman concrete -- I seem to remember they used egg whites in it, but modern industrial processes have long been way too stingy for that. As for herbal birth control, I have this Chinese medical book, A Barefoot Doctor's Manual (too lazy to re-tell the story of its origins and contents but you can look it up), and it has a few plant based methods of birth control. It was developed as an entirely practical book, no tall tales, but a couple of birth control recipes there blew my socks off... There's a monthly method -- fertility is on hold while you take that herbal brew, and when you stop it gets restored within a short time. And a yearly method -- a remedy you take just once a year that switches your fertility off for that year. Also reversible. So those plant methods weren't lost everywhere... although I don't know the current fate of the plants that went into making them. Pre-civilized people always controlled their birth rates, and not via infanticide as our so-called "scholars" (indented slaves of the system, with perks) would have us believe. Women of our species, let alone matriarchs, were neither ignorant about things nature nor numb as doorknobs back then.

It must be 'Cheeky Week ' ! First some person that is now 'turned on ' to indigenous wisdom ( she spends10 minutes in the recent 300+ indigenous smoking circle ceremony that everyone else did , tells ME ( one of the fire keepers in that circle , friend and student of some elders , friends with the last generation of elders , done ceremony with the present senior elder , etc etc ) I need indigenous education and have not learnt what she did . Then one of my lizard friends that come inside and who I hand feed nips me twice on the little toe while I am reading inside . Parrots making a racket at the door ... what now ? Ohhh , the bird bath is not full enough ? I am filling that up and one swoops... ''Alright alright .... I'm doing it okay ! '' Then a possum falls out of bed and lands against the window , hanging by one paw , and has two large furry balls pressed up against the window .... and stays there ! Well, thats just lovely isnt it ! ... what a view . '' I had one piece of bread left for a quick breakfast before I go to town . Mum butcherbird comes in and steals my breakfast off the toaster! And in town , I am having coffee with Uncle W . ( who is still around .... the one in the video with a bullroarer ) . Tourist people are looking as he looks very 'tribal' and has taken to wearing a large bone through his nose ( a 'point the bone ' bone ! ) . I leave and say goodbye and he calls out loud ' Goodby Auntie ..... ( to them ) ... that's my Auntie ! '' What the ..... ? Its supposed to be ME that is the cheeky one ( last generation of elders named me Baaliigin - 'cheeky quoll ' < ... eyes dart left and right .... waiting in anticipation for the next 'one' .... > .

That is an energy flow anchored in the stone. There are two types of energy sword: - male sword that is shown (held aloft) and the energy does the work - female sword that penetrates the heart of the user while it is pushed through the heart of the target. Only the pure of heart can use such a sword. Surya: you keep a sword in your spine, along with a rod (for use in the left hand) and trident (carrying 3 energies - as used by sea gods) Be careful what you do with them I am reminded that I have a physical ritual sword that contains an energy sword. Sometimes when the numbers in the meditation group were insufficient for the required geometry, I would place the sword as an additional participant.