old3bob Posted 12 hours ago 50 minutes ago, SodaChanh said: The question is: have you rooted out the evil in yourself? Plenty of dark side in all of us. ok, and the word ourselves would be more fitting imo. Thus not just a working on ourselves but at the same time a working for karma yoga that impacts and effects all of us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirling Posted 12 hours ago One definition of "doing evil" from a Buddhist perspective: Quote To deliberately cause suffering or to not care if suffering is caused. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaChanh Posted 12 hours ago 10 minutes ago, old3bob said: ok, and the word ourselves would be more fitting imo. Thus not just a working on ourselves but at the same time a working for karma yoga that impacts and effects all of us. Working on yourself affects everybody since you are not separate from everyone else. All concepts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaChanh Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, stirling said: One definition of "doing evil" from a Buddhist perspective: First we have to find the 'one doing things'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirling Posted 12 hours ago 8 minutes ago, old3bob said: ok, and the word ourselves would be more fitting imo. Good luck rooting out evil in others! Changing ourselves changes the world. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, SodaChanh said: Working on yourself affects everybody since you are not separate from everyone else. All concepts. ideally... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirling Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SodaChanh said: First we have to find the 'one doing things'. ...or realizing that we have missed a trick and there isn't one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted 12 hours ago (edited) -- Paul Reps Edited 12 hours ago by liminal_luke 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 12 hours ago metaphysical platitudes mean well but are very limited... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaChanh Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, old3bob said: metaphysical platitudes mean well but are very limited... Try to stop yourself from doing things. Who is trying to stop the doer? Where is action coming from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 12 hours ago Just now, SodaChanh said: Try to stop yourself from doing things. Who is trying to stop the doer? Where is action coming from? in the know platitude's galore, try to stop them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirling Posted 12 hours ago 10 minutes ago, old3bob said: metaphysical platitudes mean well but are very limited... My dear Robert, they are not platitudes, they are highly practical instruction IF pragmatically practiced. They are only platitudes to those too fearful to try. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, stirling said: My dear Robert, they are not platitudes, they are highly practical instruction IF pragmatically practiced. They are only platitudes to those too fearful to try. ok, "if", and lots of other aspects besides just fear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaChanh Posted 11 hours ago In Modern Buddhism vol 1 one can find instructions on emptiness teachings. Also training in compassion so one doesn't end up with dry insight. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 9 hours ago 13 hours ago, bradley said: I have to say, I am pretty happy in the world I live, and I don't think evil is running wild. Sure , same here .... all I have to do is stay in my little protected world .... I often do . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, stirling said: My dear Robert, they are not platitudes, they are highly practical instruction IF pragmatically practiced. They are only platitudes to those too fearful to try. But I tried drinking tea to stop the war .... didnt work . 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Nungali said: But I tried drinking tea to stop the war .... didnt work . Did you add lemon with the tea? Was tea hot, cold, if we're going to be scientific, details matter. On an empty stomach? 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaChanh Posted 9 hours ago I can suggest some things if you want to change the world... But these tools work on you as well because you are part of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 8 hours ago 15 minutes ago, SodaChanh said: I can suggest some things if you want to change the world... But these tools work on you as well because you are part of it. not sure if that was directed at old3bob but he did mention karma yoga earlier which you seemingly ignored the import of while harping on your favorite of Buddhism... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted 8 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Nungali said: But I tried drinking tea to stop the war .... didnt work . It´s not the tea, it´s the tea drinker. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 27 minutes ago, zerostao said: Think kind thoughts. is it really possible to be (humanly) kind/aka non-violent while killing somebody, as Krishna more or less taught before the great and bloody slaughter of battle recounted in the Bhagavad Gita took place? Edited 8 hours ago by old3bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, liminal_luke said: It´s not the tea, it´s the tea drinker. and to give a biblical paraphrase that goes along that line: "it not what goes into the mouth but what come out of it..." but don't tell that to a hard core vegetarian. Edited 8 hours ago by old3bob 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted 8 hours ago Another Beatle, Paul 2.0, aka Billy's Here, according to Roger Waters, while recording of The Dark Side of the Moon, purportedly said, "There is no dark side of the moon, really. Matter of fact it's all dark" The doorman of Abbey Road Studios recites the full quote for the recording of Eclipse, the album's final track. On the album Abbey Road, which Billy said he was proud of his work on that album and also Let It Be.... One piece of work, Maxwell's Silver Hammer, is about a serial killer/med student, kinda dark, eh. But imo he made up for it with his contribution to The Long One on side two, one of my favs. Before I go too far off topic, if that's ever possible here on TDB, Let's listen to one of George's songs on that album. You notice the image of the two replacement Beatles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, old3bob said: and there is a biblical paraphrase that goes along that line with: "it not what goes into the mouth but what come out of it..." but don't tell that to a hard core vegetarian. In the interest of preventing war, I try not to get into dietary debates with hard core vegetarians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites