How does Karma treat cases of entrapment

[Sanity Check]

 

Scenario:

 

The man in the iron mask is unjustly locked in prison for 40 years.

 

Having no interaction with women, he winds up being very sexually repressed and masturbates to excess in an effort to obtain physical and spiritual satisfaction.

 

His captors deploy a multi pronged approach in an effort to compel him to destroy himself thus freeing themselves from any karmic wrongdoing.

 

1.  Efforts are made to mold his sexual repression into twisted forms of extremism and sexual perversion. They try to influence him into blaming women and various demographics for his troubles. They try to influence him into hating his fellow man wanting him to lash out in displays of violence and bloodshed.

 

2.  Efforts are made to fan the flames of his sexual repression to compel him to masturbate even more to destroy his own kidneys and health. It ends with him ejaculating once a day for 20 - 30 years.

 

3.  His food and water contain substances which produce chronic feelings of nervousness, anxiety, unease in an effort to compel him to kill himself. He feels terrible all of the time. His behavior and personality are erratic. His appearance also appears unstable and unhealthy.

 

Somehow this multi pronged approach fails. None of the main objectives are reached.

 

Their next move is to place women in his cell after coercing and threatening them to behave in a seductive manner towards the sexually oppressed prisoner.

 

Needles to say he is a man who wandered for decades in a desert who suddenly discovers water.

 

They blame him for any overindulgence or mishaps which occur saying everything is 100% his fault.

 

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How would karma be distributed in cases like these? 

 

 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 12:37 AM by Sanity Check

[Nungali]

King karma is tricky when he 'distributes karma '  ;   He saw how sexually repressed  this man was so he put the idea into the captors heads to supply women to him ... hence the balance is restored  ! 

 

Spoiler

 

... and I hope the answer was as silly as the question . 

 

 

[Lairg]

2 hours ago, Sanity Check said:

man in the iron mask is unjustly locked in prison

 

If you are interested in karma, it might be better to reserve judgement

 

Most of the karma I see is closely related to groups.   

 

For example, a friend phoned me a while ago while she was driving.  She had a sudden sharp pain in the left shoulder.  I asked: can you visualize a spear in your back?

 

She could, so: who is holding the spear?   My younger son!

 

So:  Forgive yourself for being such a shit that he had to kill you.  Forgive him for being obliged to kill you.

 

Two minutes later:  Oh! the pain is gone.

 

After that her son became much better relating with the younger daughters.

 

 

Edited Sunday at 02:39 AM by Lairg

[cake1234566]

This is an interesting discussion because in the exoteric sense karma makes almost zero sense, similar to the man in the mask described above does someone with dementia accrue negative karma from their violent outbursts?

 

Theres a few factors like guilt (even if subconscious) which create suffering that leads to the creation of hells within the consciousness, id say if the man felt guilty then yes he would in effect accrue negative karma unfortunately as no system of karma assumes an intelligence behind karma but more of a cause and effect

 

If the man could no longer feel remorse then id say no negative karma would be accrued as no aspect of consciousness would be retained, similarly if the man was able to accept that he was powerless in the situation through being enlightened then there would be no negative karma

 

This might be different in hindu systems but im fairly certain in buddhism it would work like that

 

In my opinion karma shouldnt be taken super literally, its useful as a roadmap for practicing moral conduct to develop the mind for meditation, its looking at the finger instead of the moon to get into semantics but is unfortunately really common 

[Lairg]

18 hours ago, cake1234566 said:

no system of karma assumes an intelligence behind karma

 

There are various accounts of such intelligences:

- Recording Angel

- Lipika Lords

- Lords of Karma.

 

My observation is that the Lords of Karma are hierarchical:

- Planetary Lords of Karma

- Solar systemic

- Galactic

- Universal

- Trans-universal

- ...

 

The issue seems to be that the Spirit that uses the planet/system/galaxy/universe as its body of incarnation is discomforted by actions that are contrary to its intended development.

 

A common expression:  our god is a god of love.   If that is so, our god may be discomforted by actions that are not based on love.   What would that god do about the situation.

 

As far as I can tell, the Spirit that incarnates as this solar system has previously learned right energy, is now learning right relationship, and will later learn right intent.

 

I am told that at later stages of enlightenment it is possible to petition the Lords of Karma to relocate group karma.  It seems that karmic energy follows lines of least resistance and often there are several such lines

 

 

Edited Sunday at 11:06 PM by Lairg

[Lairg]

It may be that the key to understanding karma is moving from the bottom-up view of a human to the top-down view of the Entity that incarnates as this galaxy.

 

That entity is commonly referred to as the galactic Logos.  

 

 The term "logos" comes from the Ancient Greek word λόγος, meaning "word," "discourse," or "reason." It is derived from the verb λέγω (legō), which means "to say" or "to speak,"  

 

Hence:  In the beginning was the Word

 

 

 

[Apech]

On 04/01/2026 at 4:38 AM, cake1234566 said:

This is an interesting discussion because in the exoteric sense karma makes almost zero sense, similar to the man in the mask described above does someone with dementia accrue negative karma from their violent outbursts?

 

Theres a few factors like guilt (even if subconscious) which create suffering that leads to the creation of hells within the consciousness, id say if the man felt guilty then yes he would in effect accrue negative karma unfortunately as no system of karma assumes an intelligence behind karma but more of a cause and effect

 

If the man could no longer feel remorse then id say no negative karma would be accrued as no aspect of consciousness would be retained, similarly if the man was able to accept that he was powerless in the situation through being enlightened then there would be no negative karma

 

This might be different in hindu systems but im fairly certain in buddhism it would work like that

 

In my opinion karma shouldnt be taken super literally, its useful as a roadmap for practicing moral conduct to develop the mind for meditation, its looking at the finger instead of the moon to get into semantics but is unfortunately really common 

The Buddha said karma is intent.  So no the person with no malevolent intent with dementia would not accrue very much karma in that situation.