Esoteric shades

[goldenlamb]

Maybe don't put too much weight on text of image since it might as well just make you confused.

 

Osiris -> Blue Pink Gold

Apophis -> White Black Red

Isis -> Grey Yellow Orange

 

Red is about 80% Correct.

Blue is 20%-55% On spot.

 

Them which was set on left side is Spirit fading into Matter. (Xeper)

Those vertical planks is a reflection of a parallel Being. (Xepera)

They Become a renewed Astral force set on Right side. (Xeperu)

 

Vertical twins are a balanced being who through being a Duplicate becomes through being. (XEM)

This makes black for ISIS fruits & White for APOPHIS. OSIRIS is a man God risen in Gold. 

How could Truth hold such a Record with decent symmetry?

Keep it in shadows if it are no fatal error of blinking star...

Bless you Learner!

 

Text above got Interpreter mind of 24th of September.

 

Love is the Law, Lavender Will. 

 
 

[Nungali]

 

[goldenlamb]

Hell is Beautiful so let's raise it.

Every return to Eternity doesn't mean going beyond to a Hell combination.

I mean it's like Shadow work whatever it might mean.

[Lala Nila]

A creative interpretation of Liber III, how is this working out? From what I'm gathering this is a tool for Becoming, or willful self directed evolution with apotheosis or spiritual refinement as the end goal? An evaluation of various thoughts, emotions, visions from the "astrals," the colours are marking each transgression or undesirable trait or pattern, reducing them down and sending them back to the void? Colour assigning the trait, balancing the traits (or assigning them to personality "a" or "b"), then further reducing with a numerical code. Re-aligning oneself with True Will. Hence Razor Horse. A tool for self-control (less gory version). I would imagine doing it like this would re-create similar frenzy and a release similar to the original instructions. 

 

(Xeper, Xepera, Xeperu)

 

or something along those lines. 

 

[Apech]

8 hours ago, Lala Nila said:

A creative interpretation of Liber III, how is this working out? From what I'm gathering this is a tool for Becoming, or willful self directed evolution with apotheosis or spiritual refinement as the end goal? An evaluation of various thoughts, emotions, visions from the "astrals," the colours are marking each transgression or undesirable trait or pattern, reducing them down and sending them back to the void? Colour assigning the trait, balancing the traits (or assigning them to personality "a" or "b"), then further reducing with a numerical code. Re-aligning oneself with True Will. Hence Razor Horse. A tool for self-control (less gory version). I would imagine doing it like this would re-create similar frenzy and a release similar to the original instructions. 

 

(Xeper, Xepera, Xeperu)

 

or something along those lines. 

 

 

Khepera kheper kheperw

 

(Xepera xeper xeperu)

 

The creator creates the creatures.

 

 

[Lala Nila]

42 minutes ago, Apech said:

 

Khepera kheper kheperw

 

(Xepera xeper xeperu)

 

The creator creates the creatures.

 

 

 

Thanks Apech! My only knowledge of this quote is from The Temple of Set or Seithian. Michael Aquino or Don Webb. It was defined as "I have come into being, and by the process of My Coming into Being, the process of Coming into Being is established." 

 

What are your reading recommendations if I want to get my toes wet in Egyptian magic? 

[Apech]

11 minutes ago, Lala Nila said:

 

Thanks Apech! My only knowledge of this quote is from The Temple of Set or Seithian. Michael Aquino or Don Webb. It was defined as "I have come into being, and by the process of My Coming into Being, the process of Coming into Being is established." 

 

What are your reading recommendations if I want to get my toes wet in Egyptian magic? 

Their translation is ok metaphysically speaking.

 

I don’t know about books on Egyptian magic because I am self taught from source texts but I’ll have a think about it.  What particularly are you interested in?

 

 

[Lala Nila]

15 minutes ago, Apech said:

Their translation is ok metaphysically speaking.

 

Seems like a fair bit of creative license!

 

I'm especially interested in how Egyptians worked with symbology, ritual and cosmology in practice. Not just the history, but the lived spiritual experience/dimension. I'd been interested in which sources texts gave you the clearest insight, most impactful, etc. 

[Apech]

11 minutes ago, Lala Nila said:

 

Seems like a fair bit of creative license!

 

I'm especially interested in how Egyptians worked with symbology, ritual and cosmology in practice. Not just the history, but the lived spiritual experience/dimension. I'd been interested in which sources texts gave you the clearest insight, most impactful, etc. 

 

We could discuss this in depth if you wish but perhaps in another thread?

 

The Egyptians were very keen in alliteration and puns.  In this they saw both a kind of poetic expression but also resonances in meaning.  So in the phrase the repeat of the ‘kheper’ root and sound indicates a kind of continuity between the three ‘levels’.  Khepera is the sun as a scarab beetle.  The morning sun.  The morning recapitulates the creation of the universe itself.  Kheper means ‘to be, become, evolve’ and kheperw refers to the things created ( like the ten thousand things of Daoism).  What is implied is that the creator, the act of creation and the resulting creations all reflect each other as they all partake in a continuum of energy/awareness.  
 

 

[Lala Nila]

34 minutes ago, Apech said:

We could discuss this in depth if you wish but perhaps in another thread?

 

 

Yes please! I'll create a dedicated thread this evening.

 

Thank you Apech

[Nungali]

8 hours ago, Lala Nila said:

 

Seems like a fair bit of creative license!

 

I'm especially interested in how Egyptians worked with symbology, ritual and cosmology in practice. Not just the history, but the lived spiritual experience/dimension. I'd been interested in which sources texts gave you the clearest insight, most impactful, etc. 

 

No 'Stele of Revealing '  work for you ? 

 

( I used to recite it as part of my four daily adorations of the Sun ; dawn noon  sunset midnight .  In 'ancient Egyptian'    ... yeah  yeah, I know !    the pronunciation thing , sometimes one has to 'wing it'   { 'creative license'  } . )

 

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Edited October 4 by Nungali

[Nungali]

8 hours ago, Apech said:

 

We could discuss this in depth if you wish but perhaps in another thread?

 

The Egyptians were very keen in alliteration and puns.

 

 

 

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 In this they saw both a kind of poetic expression but also resonances in meaning.  So in the phrase the repeat of the ‘kheper’ root and sound indicates a kind of continuity between the three ‘levels’.  Khepera is the sun as a scarab beetle.  The morning sun.  The morning recapitulates the creation of the universe itself.  Kheper means ‘to be, become, evolve’ and kheperw refers to the things created ( like the ten thousand things of Daoism).  What is implied is that the creator, the act of creation and the resulting creations all reflect each other as they all partake in a continuum of energy/awareness.  
 

 

 

^   'GOLD'  !  

 

( That is two 'Gold' gifts in two days !   The one yesterday cam for 'Uncle Allen ' a Gunbayngirr elder  when I was in their  'sacred circle

' for a ceremony  ... and  WOW !    I should make a post about this later .   But yes please   'Uncle Apech'  please , a new thread on this stuff ? '' ) 

 

Spoiler

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Edited October 4 by Nungali

[Lairg]

11 hours ago, Lala Nila said:

I'm especially interested in how Egyptians worked with symbology, ritual and cosmology in practice. Not just the history, but the lived spiritual experience/dimension.

 

As you know the ancient Egyptian civilization was at its height at its earliest stage.  From this we may deduce that the civilization was formed elsewhere.  The same is true of Sumer.

 

Once I showed a friend a scene from 56 000 years ago  with a procession from the Great Pyramid of Giza.  She was in the procession.  On her left was a child who is also her child at the present time.  On her right was the one called Vishnu.  When she saw him she burst out: Oh he is my favorite!

 

So I wonder if your interest is in what Earth humans living in Egypt have done, or whether it is what the founders of Egypt etc still do

 

 

 

 

Edited October 5 by Lairg

[Lala Nila]

4 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

No 'Stele of Revealing '  work for you ? 

 

( I used to recite it as part of my four daily adorations of the Sun ; dawn noon  sunset midnight .  In 'ancient Egyptian'    ... yeah  yeah, I know !    the pronunciation thing , sometimes one has to 'wing it'   { 'creative license'  } . )

 

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no actually- I never practiced the Stele of Revealing, my Solar "adorations" and ritual revolves around different means and methods! I use an adapted version of I AM's Solar Grounding technique that I read about...jeez, probably 15 years ago. I like direct-connect to planetary, solar or lunar energies/logos. However, most of my work, even now is Lunar (and Earth/Gaia) focused simply because I tend to work more directly with Goddess or feminine energies/archetypes, I'm probably a little due for more in-depth solar connectivity. Now that I'm typing all this I'm realizing that maybe my previous approach was a little biased.

 

What benefits did daily practice of the Stele of Revealing give to you? How does the use of the Stele differ from Egyptian to Thelema? I think pronunciation is not as important as intent to be honest. I know I sound a little off when reciting anything from the PGM for example. Though I really do try and research pronunciation the best I can. I know it's a little different with ancient Egyptian though..lot's of creative license with that lol. I believe trance work and allowing glossolalia to flow through you helps connect to language. Oh yeah, I tend to wing it quite a bit hahaha.

 

 

[Lala Nila]

2 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

As you know the ancient Egyptian civilization was at its height at its earliest stage.  From this we may deduce that the civilization was formed elsewhere.  The same is true of Sumer.

 

Once I showed a friend a scene from 56 000 years ago  with a procession from the Great Pyramid of Giza.  She was in the procession.  On her left was a child who is also her child at the present time.  On her right was the one called Vishnu.  When she saw him she burst out: Oh he is my favorite!

 

So I wonder if your interest is in what Earth humans living in Egypt have done, or whether it is what the founders of Egypt etc still do

 

 

 

 

 

I'm drawn to what the founders were doing, the ones who held the solar current before it filtered into human ritual...But I also love seeing how that current took form through the people of Egypt and even contemporary  interpretations the rituals, rites and the current itself. The evolution of it all is also fascinating to me.

 

Sounds like your friend channelled The Great Mother, Mahadevi or Adi-Shakti in that moment! What a wonderful vision to be privy to!

 

 

Edited October 5 by Lala Nila

[Lairg]

29 minutes ago, Lala Nila said:

Sounds like your friend channelled The Great Mother, Mahadevi or Adi-Shakti in that moment!

 

She saw herself in that incarnation - on this timeline.

 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

19 hours ago, Lala Nila said:

 

no actually- I never practiced the Stele of Revealing, my Solar "adorations" and ritual revolves around different means and methods! I use an adapted version of I AM's Solar Grounding technique that I read about...jeez, probably 15 years ago. I like direct-connect to planetary, solar or lunar energies/logos. However, most of my work, even now is Lunar (and Earth/Gaia) focused simply because I tend to work more directly with Goddess or feminine energies/archetypes, I'm probably a little due for more in-depth solar connectivity. Now that I'm typing all this I'm realizing that maybe my previous approach was a little biased.

 

Those adorations were part of recommended practice  and originally I was ... nah, not into that . I have strong Cancerian and Neptunian influence in my natal chart and 'life stream '  ;  very lunar goddess oriented (and had been working in a couple of coverns  ,  doing my '2nd degree Wicca '  (before all this ) and sometimes doing the Wiccan priest role ( which is mainly supporting the Priestess ) .  In retrospect the solar adorations were recommended   as I needed that balance - I realised that later .

 

 

 

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What benefits did daily practice of the Stele of Revealing give to you?

 

I have limited time at the moment .  To list that would take pages  as  some times I did all of them every single day four times a day for months on end  ( I think any practice done like that is bound to create effects ! ) . 

 

I will list one benefit . it took me ages to figure out . Why is the setting sun associated with joy ? I didnt know but I made myself feel and contemplate joy   during that 'adoration' ( it consists of a  prescribed and outlined ritual but within that is a space for meditation ,  what you meditate 'on' is prescribed by your teacher  { 'inner or outer ' }  ) .  Sometimes  I would have a great day and feel joy and gratitude for that . Then that spread to every day . Then even hard or bad days   ( at least now that is over    ) , I like the night as well and feel comfortable in the dark .  It was a great 'closing' to the day .  And of course a reflection of our life's journey and my death ... joy at death .  Why not ?   Then it spread to joy for being alive  and experiencing every day , then the joy of 'existence '  . Then gratitude and appreciation for life . After a while I am walking around in this appreciative amazed  state .  And then other parts of the ritual and effects 'hurl me back ' to ancient Egypt  where perhaps they experienced something like this? 

 

I have it in a story I wrote...  somewhere ;  'The Egyptian'   ... it starts something like  ' I arose one morning early and before I went to plow the fields , I walked down to the river to greet Ra in his rising  ....( and stuff about ,  watching a bird high in the sky , a fish jumps in the water etc etc  a)  ... and I rejoiced  knowing  ( here is the crux ) ... that I  am ALIVE inside the body of God . 

 

 

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How does the use of the Stele differ from Egyptian to Thelema?

 

Well, Thelema , in this aspect is 'dodgy neo-Egyptian '      

 

It uses Egyptian metaphors to teach concepts in Thelema but not so much concepts in ancient Egypt , whatever they were .

 

With all the indigenous stuff I been doing lately its easy to see 

 

Nuit -  Queen of space and the stars    ... Wallenganda   Mother snake in the sky - the Milky Way . 

 

Hadit -  A 'condensed point in space , the 'winged disc' ... the God force ( not in its 'be ing' but in its going  ... going forward .. Ungud , rainbow serpent earth snake , creation spirit 

 

Ra hoor Khuit  - that aspect of Law  -  Bungil , he who 'regulates' law  (  old red eye , ie Mars )  

 

and so on 

 

 

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I think pronunciation is not as important as intent to be honest. I know I sound a little off when reciting anything from the PGM for example. Though I really do try and research pronunciation the best I can. I know it's a little different with ancient Egyptian though..lot's of creative license with that lol. I believe trance work and allowing glossolalia to flow through you helps connect to language. Oh yeah, I tend to wing it quite a bit hahaha.

 

 

 

Well, wings help us fly    

Edited October 5 by Nungali

[Apech]

31 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

Those adorations were part of recommended practice  and originally I was ... nah, not into that . I have strong Cancerian and Neptunian influence in my natal chart and 'life stream '  ;  very lunar goddess oriented (and had been working in a couple of coverns  ,  doing my '2nd degree Wicca '  (before all this ) and sometimes doing the Wiccan priest role ( which is mainly supporting the Priestess ) .  In retrospect the solar adorations were recommended   as I needed that balance - I realised that later .

 

 

 

 

I have limited time at the moment .  To list that would take pages  as  some times I did all of them every single day four times a day for months on end  ( I think any practice done like that is bound to create effects ! ) . 

 

I will list one benefit . it took me ages to figure out . Why is the setting sun associated with joy ? I didnt know but I made myself feel and contemplate joy   during that 'adoration' ( it consists of a  prescribed and outlined ritual but within that is a space for meditation ,  what you meditate 'on' is prescribed by your teacher  { 'inner or outer ' }  ) .  Sometimes  I would have a great day and feel joy and gratitude for that . Then that spread to every day . Then even hard or bad days   ( at least now that is over    ) , I like the night as well and feel comfortable in the dark .  It was a great 'closing' to the day .  And of course a reflection of our life's journey and my death ... joy at death .  Why not ?   Then it spread to joy for being alive  and experiencing every day , then the joy of 'existence '  . Then gratitude and appreciation for life . After a while I am walking around in this appreciative amazed  state .  And then other parts of the ritual and effects 'hurl me back ' to ancient Egypt  where perhaps they experienced something like this? 

 

I have it in a story I wrote...  somewhere ;  'The Egyptian'   ... it starts something like  ' I arose one morning early and before I went to plow the fields , I walked down to the river to greet Ra in his rising  ....( and stuff about ,  watching a bird high in the sky , a fish jumps in the water etc etc  a)  ... and I rejoiced  knowing  ( here is the crux ) ... that I  am ALIVE inside the body of God . 

 

 

 

Well, Thelema , in this aspect is 'dodgy neo-Egyptian '      

 

It uses Egyptian metaphors to teach concepts in Thelema but not so much concepts in ancient Egypt , whatever they were .

 

With all the indigenous stuff I been doing lately its easy to see 

 

Nuit -  Queen of space and the stars    ... Wallenganda   Mother snake in the sky - the Milky Way . 

 

Hadit -  A 'condensed point in space , the 'winged disc' ... the God force ( not in its 'be ing' but in its going  ... going forward .. Ungud , rainbow serpent earth snake , creation spirit 

 

Ra hoor Khuit  - that aspect of Law  -  Bungil , he who 'regulates' law  (  old red eye , ie Mars )  

 

and so on 

 

 

 

Well, wings help us fly    

 

He seems to have used Wallis Budge translations of names which are now non-standard.  For instance Ra hoor Khuit would be Re - Horakhty etc.  But I guess as you say he was reinterpretiing it into his own system (as with Hadit which is not an Egyptian term) - but all good with that.  My old teacher (who actually met Crowley once) said he knew what he was doing (with a caveat that he indulged himself a little playing games with people).

 

I had a look at the Stele of Revealing and its a nice find from the Late period and the owner of the stele was a Sem priest - so a magician basically.  So nice.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stele_of_Ankh-ef-en-Khonsu#/media/File:Stelae_of_Ankh-af-na-khonsu.jpg

[Nungali]

21 hours ago, Apech said:

 

He seems to have used Wallis Budge translations of names which are now non-standard.  For instance Ra hoor Khuit would be Re - Horakhty etc.  But I guess as you say he was reinterpretiing it into his own system (as with Hadit which is not an Egyptian term) - but all good with that.  My old teacher (who actually met Crowley once) said he knew what he was doing (with a caveat that he indulged himself a little playing games with people).

 

I had a look at the Stele of Revealing and its a nice find from the Late period and the owner of the stele was a Sem priest - so a magician basically.  So nice.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stele_of_Ankh-ef-en-Khonsu#/media/File:Stelae_of_Ankh-af-na-khonsu.jpg

 

Have you read Crowley's 'poetic rendition' of that early translation ? 

 

A PARAPHRASE OF THE INSCRIPTIONS UPON
THE OBVERSE OF THE STELE OF REVELLING

Above, the gemmèd azure is
The naked splendour of Nuit;
She bends in ecstasy to kiss
The secret ardours of Hadit.
The wingèd globe, the starry blue
Are mine, o Ankh-f-n-Khonsu.

I am the Lord of Thebes, and I
The inspired forth-speaker of Mentu;
For me unveils the veiled sky,
The self-slain Ankh-f-n-Khonsu
Whose words are truth. I invoke, I greet
Thy presence, o Ra-Hoor-Khuit!

Unity uttermost showed!
I adore the might of Thy breath,
Supreme and terrible God,
Who makest the gods and death
To tremble before Thee: —
I, I adore thee!

Appear on the throne of Ra!
Open the ways of the Khu!
Lighten the ways of the Ka!
The ways of the Khabs run through
To stir me or still me!
Aum! let it kill me! *

The Light is mine; its rays consume
Me: I have made a secret door
Into the House of Ra and Tum,
Of Khephra, and of Ahathoor.
I am thy Theban, o Mentu,
The prophet Ankh-f-n-Khonsu!

By Bes-na-Maut my breast I beat:
By wise Ta-nech I weave my spell.
Show thy star-splendour, O Nuit!
Bid me within thine House to dwell,
O winged snake of light, Hadith!
Abide with me, Ra-Hoor-Khuit!

 

 

A PARAPHRASE OF THE HIEROGLYPHS OF THE
11 LINES UPON THE REVERSE OF THE STELE

Saith of Mentu the truth-telling brother
Who was master of Thebes from his birth:
O heart of me, heart of my mother!
O heart which I had upon earth!
Stand not thou up against me as a witness!
Oppose me not, judge, in my quest!
Accuse me not now of unfitness
Before the Great God, the dread Lord of the West!
For I fastened the one to the other
With a spell for their mystical girth,
The earth and the wonderful West,
When I flourished, o earth, on thy breast!

The dead man Ankh-f-n-Khonsu
Saith with his voice of truth and calm:
O thou that hast a single arm!
O thou that glitterest in the moon!
I weave thee in the spinning charm;
I lure thee with the billowy tune.

The dead man Ankh-f-n-Khonsu
Hath parted from the darkling crowds,
Hath joined the dwellers of the light,
Opening Duant, the star-abodes,
Their keys receiving.
The dead man Ankh-f-n-Khonsu
Hath made his passage into night,
His pleasure on the earth to do
Among the living.

 

The bolded and italic part is the section used in the adoration . I find the 'Egyptian' incantation   work as a type of 'kotodama' while the English helps with  conceptual visualizations ... and with those both one might be able to imagine the effects of long term invocation 4 times a day . 

 

*  a typo ;   k ....  f    (oooops !      ... I you wouldnt be doing that 4 times a day long term ... you would only get 'one shot at it ' .

[Apech]

16 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

Have you read Crowley's 'poetic rendition' of that early translation ? 

 

A PARAPHRASE OF THE INSCRIPTIONS UPON
THE OBVERSE OF THE STELE OF REVELLING

Above, the gemmèd azure is
The naked splendour of Nuit;
She bends in ecstasy to kiss
The secret ardours of Hadit.
The wingèd globe, the starry blue
Are mine, o Ankh-f-n-Khonsu.

I am the Lord of Thebes, and I
The inspired forth-speaker of Mentu;
For me unveils the veiled sky,
The self-slain Ankh-f-n-Khonsu
Whose words are truth. I invoke, I greet
Thy presence, o Ra-Hoor-Khuit!

Unity uttermost showed!
I adore the might of Thy breath,
Supreme and terrible God,
Who makest the gods and death
To tremble before Thee: —
I, I adore thee!

Appear on the throne of Ra!
Open the ways of the Khu!
Lighten the ways of the Ka!
The ways of the Khabs run through
To stir me or still me!
Aum! let it kill me! *

The Light is mine; its rays consume
Me: I have made a secret door
Into the House of Ra and Tum,
Of Khephra, and of Ahathoor.
I am thy Theban, o Mentu,
The prophet Ankh-f-n-Khonsu!

By Bes-na-Maut my breast I beat:
By wise Ta-nech I weave my spell.
Show thy star-splendour, O Nuit!
Bid me within thine House to dwell,
O winged snake of light, Hadith!
Abide with me, Ra-Hoor-Khuit!

 

 

A PARAPHRASE OF THE HIEROGLYPHS OF THE
11 LINES UPON THE REVERSE OF THE STELE

Saith of Mentu the truth-telling brother
Who was master of Thebes from his birth:
O heart of me, heart of my mother!
O heart which I had upon earth!
Stand not thou up against me as a witness!
Oppose me not, judge, in my quest!
Accuse me not now of unfitness
Before the Great God, the dread Lord of the West!
For I fastened the one to the other
With a spell for their mystical girth,
The earth and the wonderful West,
When I flourished, o earth, on thy breast!

The dead man Ankh-f-n-Khonsu
Saith with his voice of truth and calm:
O thou that hast a single arm!
O thou that glitterest in the moon!
I weave thee in the spinning charm;
I lure thee with the billowy tune.

The dead man Ankh-f-n-Khonsu
Hath parted from the darkling crowds,
Hath joined the dwellers of the light,
Opening Duant, the star-abodes,
Their keys receiving.
The dead man Ankh-f-n-Khonsu
Hath made his passage into night,
His pleasure on the earth to do
Among the living.

 

The bolded and italic part is the section used in the adoration . I find the 'Egyptian' incantation   work as a type of 'kotodama' while the English helps with  conceptual visualizations ... and with those both one might be able to imagine the effects of long term invocation 4 times a day . 

 

*  a typo ;   k ....  f    (oooops !      ... I you wouldnt be doing that 4 times a day long term ... you would only get 'one shot at it ' .

 there’s lots to unpack in this - might start a thread on it - what do you think?

[Lala Nila]

On 2025-10-05 at 4:54 PM, Nungali said:

Those adorations were part of recommended practice  and originally I was ... nah, not into that . I have strong Cancerian and Neptunian influence in my natal chart and 'life stream '  ;  very lunar goddess oriented (and had been working in a couple of coverns  ,  doing my '2nd degree Wicca '  (before all this ) and sometimes doing the Wiccan priest role ( which is mainly supporting the Priestess ) .  In retrospect the solar adorations were recommended   as I needed that balance - I realised that later .

 

Mhm, reading through this thread and the most recent quotes, I'm thinking about running this rite, for balance and experience. I feel you- my lunar workings are a little heavy, about to start some lunar work this evening actually! I'm not too well acquainted with my chart lol, although I have a Joyti chart that I refer back to quite a bit.  Yes, I really love many elements of Wicca, I loosely follow some of the rites and rituals. Group work can be a lot of fun and prosperous, but it comes with its own issues as well lol. High Priest, eh? fancy.

 

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Sometimes  I would have a great day and feel joy and gratitude for that . Then that spread to every day . Then even hard or bad days   ( at least now that is over    ) , I like the night as well and feel comfortable in the dark .  It was a great 'closing' to the day .  And of course a reflection of our life's journey and my death ... joy at death .  Why not ?   Then it spread to joy for being alive  and experiencing every day , then the joy of 'existence '  . Then gratitude and appreciation for life . After a while I am walking around in this appreciative amazed  state 

 

I love this result. I often times tend to focus on the negative, though I do try to practice gratitude in a daily ritual for me, whether it's just giving thanks to the beautiful sky, La Luna, the foliage, etc. 

 

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Well, Thelema , in this aspect is 'dodgy neo-Egyptian ' 

 

Yes, I was reading about the differences earlier today. I've done some Nuit/Nut ritual work, using Thelemic themes as a starting point. I'm usually pretty heterodox in my ritual design and execution lol, always putting my own spin on things and making the work more personal and from my perspective!

 

"Well, wings help us fly    "

 

<<Soaring>>

 

Above, the gemmèd azure is
The naked splendour of Nuit;
She bends in ecstasy to kiss
The secret ardours of Hadit.
The wingèd globe, the starry blue
Are mine, o Ankh-f-n-Khonsu.

I am the Lord of Thebes, and I
The inspired forth-speaker of Mentu;
For me unveils the veiled sky,
The self-slain Ankh-f-n-Khonsu
Whose words are truth. I invoke, I greet
Thy presence, o Ra-Hoor-Khuit!

Unity uttermost showed!
I adore the might of Thy breath,
Supreme and terrible God,
Who makest the gods and death
To tremble before Thee: —
I, I adore thee!

Appear on the throne of Ra!
Open the ways of the Khu!
Lighten the ways of the Ka!
The ways of the Khabs run through
To stir me or still me!
Aum! let it kill me! *

The Light is mine; its rays consume
Me: I have made a secret door
Into the House of Ra and Tum,
Of Khephra, and of Ahathoor.
I am thy Theban, o Mentu,
The prophet Ankh-f-n-Khonsu!

By Bes-na-Maut my breast I beat:
By wise Ta-nech I weave my spell.
Show thy star-splendour, O Nuit!
Bid me within thine House to dwell,
O winged snake of light, Hadith!
Abide with me, Ra-Hoor-Khuit!

 

 

I'm really digging this quote, thank you for posting it. I have some research to do..Thank you!

[Lala Nila]

2 hours ago, Apech said:

 there’s lots to unpack in this - might start a thread on it - what do you think?

 

Yes please!

 

I'm game to learn

[Lairg]

2 hours ago, Lala Nila said:

I'm thinking about running this rite

 

Why do you need rites?

 

You have sufficient spiritual authority to request whatever you need

 

 

[Lala Nila]

 

That’s a great question, Lairg,  you’re absolutely correct. I do have the authority to request whatever I need. I suppose that I often get caught up in the excitement of ritual: the sense of ceremony, the pomp and circumstance, and the way it used to help set the tone for intention. Old habits die hard.

 

I was going to respond with this long drawn out response defending it. 

 

But, ultimately you're right.

 

I don't need the pomp and circumstance. The "tools" already reside within me.

 

I've already claimed my authority.

 

thank you

 

[Nungali]

On 10/7/2025 at 6:22 AM, Apech said:

 there’s lots to unpack in this - might start a thread on it - what do you think?

 

Sure ... why not .