God interacting with humans.

[Lairg]

11 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

so then just as there are other lifetimes of me in different times and places on earth, so too are there other lifetimes of me in different places in other parts of the universe.  And other lifeforms i have inhabited as well.  I remember once having the most vivid experience if inhabiting a tree that caught on fire and was burning. For much of my life including as a child i have yearned to inhabit large boulders, and large trees. 

 

It may be useful to consider your various parallel incarnations as anchoring threads of light from a transcendent Entity that works through many physical and non-physical species and galaxies to contribute to the unfoldment of Existence

 

Within the Cosmic Physical Plane it is said that the spirit (monad) that produces a human may operate up to 12 souls (solar angels) in parallel with each solar angel able to operate up to 12 human incarnations.  My own observations are consistent with that proposition

 

 

 

[Lairg]

26 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

For much of my life including as a child i have yearned to inhabit large boulders, and large trees.

 

Many years ago I was in a workshop session.  We were instructed to imagine that we were another being.  Most chose dogs etc.

 

For some reason I put my attention to a quartz crystal.  Immediately I could see that the etheric structure (nervous system) of the crystal was directly connected to all the quartz in this galaxy.

 

This allows instantaneous communication throughout the galaxy

 

 

[Nungali]

I cant see a post here with that  date stamp 

 

You can make things a LOT easier by simply  clicking the reply button  below a post and that will put the post and exactly what it says in your post box that you are writing and referring to another post in . 

 

Its immaterial anyway ... again ... 

 

care to answer the question  ? ? ?  

 

  Maybe you or  most readers  'forgot ' what the question was in all this  deflection   ?  .... I haven't , that stuff doesn't work on me . 

 

Its a very simple and rational question that any reasonable person might ask , and you don't have to be an atheist to ask such questions . 

[Nungali]

9 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

 

this post ^ [4/14/2025 at 2:31PM] is the "above post" that was responded to and that was referenced and that was included in my own post.

 

 

and then it will look like this and everyone can see at a glance what is being responded to . 

 

I should have done it before the above post ..... one never knows when a 'page break' is coming . 

[Nungali]

39 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

... For much of my life including as a child i have yearned to inhabit large boulders, ...

 

That's  .... 'rad' ....

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOPwXNFU7oU

Edited Wednesday at 12:34 AM by Nungali

[BigSkyDiamond]

15 minutes ago, Lairg said:

Many years ago I was in a workshop session.  We were instructed to imagine that we were another being.  Most chose dogs etc.

 

For some reason I put my attention to a quartz crystal.  Immediately I could see that the etheric structure (nervous system) of the crystal was directly connected to all the quartz in this galaxy.

 

This allows instantaneous communication throughout the galaxy

 

 

I remember in grade school (this was back in the 1960s) when there was a history lesson and the teacher was describing that the native people talked to the stones and the trees.  The tone of the teacher and the classroom was a blend of pity and condescension and superiority.  Most of the kids in the class were laughing and guffawing and shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. My immediate reaction upon hearing that however (i was about 7 or 8 years old) was I remember thinking all of the following: how did they do that, when do we get to study that,  when do we learn how to do that, i want to learn how to do that, and what were the trees and rocks saying.

 

i waited a long time in school many grades went by and many classes and many books all through middle school  and junior high and high school and to my dismay it was never taught.  Never once did i doubt the reality, i just wanted to know more about that and learn it.  Eventually as a grown up i was able to pursue that on my own.

Edited Wednesday at 12:37 AM by BigSkyDiamond

[BigSkyDiamond]

10 minutes ago, Nungali said:

You can make things a LOT easier by simply  clicking the reply button  below a post and that will put the post and exactly what it says in your post box that you are writing and referring to another post in . 

 

that is exactly what i did

 

[Nungali]

Whatever .... care to answer the question ? 

[old3bob]

On 4/15/2025 at 4:06 AM, silent thunder said:

Are you assuming you are at an elevated station above plants and mammals?

 

also fascinating...

[old3bob]

double post?

 

Edited Wednesday at 12:40 AM by old3bob

[old3bob]

anyway the "higher" the being one may interact with the better it is to have your shit together, since some do not "suffer fools gladly".

[Lairg]

24 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

native people talked to the stones and the trees

 

 A couple of months ago it seemed to me that the demarcations  between individual elementals and between individual nature spirits (lesser devas) reduced markedly.

 

This seems to be part of a greater cohesion/transparency within the flow of life force.

 

Has your ability to sense within the mineral kingdom increased recently?

 

  

[BigSkyDiamond]

22 minutes ago, Nungali said:

Its a very simple and rational question that any reasonable person might ask , and you don't have to be an atheist to ask such questions . 

 

if the view is expressed on a forum which is dedicated to discussing paths of religion and spirituality, that god is not good, then it is reasonable to ask if that view is being expressed by an atheist.   It helps clarify and provide additional data and a baseline for understanding each other's views, and participating in the conversation, if someone chooses to do so.

 

my view is that bashing other posters and denigrating other paths is something for me to avoid (that is for myself to avoid engaging with, and avoid engaging in).  Seeking to understand something that perhaps is problematic can be a fruitful discussion.  Understanding other views i may disagree with can be engaging conversation.   

[BigSkyDiamond]

20 minutes ago, old3bob said:

anyway the "higher" the being one may interact with the better it is to have your shit together, since some do not "suffer fools gladly".

 

yes.  well said.  caution and discernment are absolutely essential.  I had it explained to me this way:  just as there are neighborhoods in the city you would not go wandering around in because they are dangerous and have unscrupulous characters likely to cause you harm.  So too in the non-physical realms.  As above so below.

 

 

[Nungali]

12 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

if the view is expressed on a forum which is dedicated to discussing paths of religion and spirituality, that god is not good, then it is reasonable to ask if that view is being expressed by an atheist.  

 

That's a bit dishonest as I never declared that at all ... AGAIN I asked a simple question of  the poster WHY the poster thought that  , I didn't even offer my view at all 

 

Its obvious you are running some type of agenda here ... if one examines your responses ...  and I already answered that question, so why this  diversion ? 

 

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It helps clarify and provide additional data and a baseline for understanding each other's views, and participating in the conversation, if someone chooses to do so.

 

Again, I am not an atheist , you knew that as I already stated it. 

 

 

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my view is that bashing other posters and denigrating other paths is something for me to avoid (that is for myself to avoid engaging with, and avoid engaging in).  Seeking to understand something that perhaps is problematic can be a fruitful discussion.  Understanding other views i may disagree with can be engaging conversation.   

 

 

And all that  because I asked  a simple question ?   Why cant the question be seen as " Seeking to understand something that perhaps is problematic "  ?   How can one be 'engaged in conversation'   that can be 'fruitful'  and seek to understand something ... or even engender further understanding in others  if one cannot even ask such a a simple and OBVIOUS question ?  I see , you STILL will not offer any answer but continue with diversions . 

 

 

Why is that ?  

Edited Wednesday at 01:20 AM by Nungali

[心神 ~]

This is exhausting. I would love to read conversations where people aren't constantly challenged to defend themselves. Why isn't this considered a pattern of bullying?

[BigSkyDiamond]

11 minutes ago, Lairg said:

 A couple of months ago it seemed to me that the demarcations  between individual elementals and between individual nature spirits (lesser devas) reduced markedly.

This seems to be part of a greater cohesion/transparency within the flow of life force.

Has your ability to sense within the mineral kingdom increased recently?

 

Yes, the ability to sense has increased in general recently across the board.  My focus is shifting away from the specific expressions (rocks, trees, mountain) and more towards that which gives rise to it, the non -physical back of whatever physical expression i see out my window or on my daily walk in nature.  So for instance instead of figuring out which herb to use for this or that symptom (specific physical plant), instead i am infusing a glass of water with my hands for the result or outcome needed.  

 

Enjoying this discussion immensely.  I am interested and fascinated to hear your views and experiences, and frame of reference.

 

I remember reading about an herbalist who had a healing practice and worked with plants and herbs from a number of different sources, and suddenly the suppliers he used were unable to provide a certain plant.  He was in a panic because the plant was needed for a number of different tinctures and remedies.  It was a turning point for him however, because that was when one of the plants he worked with (he communicated with the plants)  informed him that the physical plant was not needed, he could call forth the essence of the plant because he already had a connection to it established.  He was reluctant to accept that this would work because to him it had always been the physical plant carries the medicine.  He tried it and found it worked for that plant.  He tried it for other plant varieties, making the remedies without the physical plant, and they also were effective.

 

So that is the shift I am seeing.  so if a mineral catches my eye then connecting with the essence of it, and physical mineral not needed.  I'll find photos on the internet and collect them in  a folder and use those and can tap in that way.  

 

[BigSkyDiamond]

8 minutes ago, 心神 ~ said:

This is exhausting. I would love to read conversations where people aren't constantly challenged to defend themselves. Why isn't this considered a pattern of bullying?

 

That is exactly what it is.  I will not be bullied into responding.  Every person is able to choose which posts they respond to and which conversations they engage in.

[old3bob]

41 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

yes.  well said.  caution and discernment are absolutely essential.  I had it explained to me this way:  just as there are neighborhoods in the city you would not go wandering around in because they are dangerous and have unscrupulous characters likely to cause you harm.  So too in the non-physical realms.  As above so below.

 

 

 

um, that is not what I meant, more like high level high voltage guardian beings (like some gods) do not "suffer fools gladly"...

[BigSkyDiamond]

1 hour ago, Lairg said:

Many years ago I was in a workshop session.  We were instructed to imagine that we were another being.  Most chose dogs etc.

For some reason I put my attention to a quartz crystal.  Immediately I could see that the etheric structure (nervous system) of the crystal was directly connected to all the quartz in this galaxy.

This allows instantaneous communication throughout the galaxy

 

 

i love that imagerydescribed.  someone said think of trees and all their roots in the ground a vast system of all those roots and all those trees, and that of course they could communicate as one.

[BigSkyDiamond]

2 minutes ago, old3bob said:

um, that is not what I meant, more like high level high voltage guardian beings (like some gods) do not "suffer fools gladly"...

 

i don't see them as vindictive or punishing, more like mirrors that reflect and send back and amplify whatever  a person may carry or harbor.  because it's not about "the gods" it's about each of us developing our own character and integrity.   we have access to immense power but when it is mis-used it eventually implodes on us.   

[心神 ~]

15 minutes ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

i love that imagery described.  someone said think of trees and all their roots in the ground a vast system of all those roots and all those trees, and that of course they could communicate as one.

 

 

You might enjoy Finding the Mother Tree: Discovering the Wisdom of the Forest by Suzanne Simard, a forest ecologist who studies the interconnected social life of trees, and their relationship to the mycelial network.

 

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The older trees are able to discern which seedlings are their own kin. The old trees nurture the young ones and provide them food and water just as we do with our own children. It is enough to make one pause, take a deep breath, and contemplate the social nature of the forest and how this is critical for evolution. The fungal network appears to wire the trees for fitness. And more. These old trees are mothering their children. The Mother Trees. When Mother Trees—the majestic hubs at the center of forest communication, protection, and sentience—die, they pass their wisdom to their kin, generation after generation, sharing the knowledge of what helps and what harms, who is friend or foe, and how to adapt and survive in an ever-changing landscape. It’s what all parents do.

 

Edited Wednesday at 02:11 AM by 心神 ~

[BigSkyDiamond]

2 hours ago, Lairg said:

It may be useful to consider your various parallel incarnations as anchoring threads of light from a transcendent Entity that works through many physical and non-physical species and galaxies to contribute to the unfoldment of Existence

 

Within the Cosmic Physical Plane it is said that the spirit (monad) that produces a human may operate up to 12 souls (solar angels) in parallel with each solar angel able to operate up to 12 human incarnations.  My own observations are consistent with that proposition

 

Help me understand, so does everything (all physical and non-physical, the universe and everything in it) flow from and trace back to the single Entity at the top?  Not just me and all my lives, but all species and all of everything?   I'm not sure what Existence refers to.   Is it the "universe and everything in it"?  So just like all the quartz has access to each other, then we have access to everything because we are all part of the same One, is that it?

 

I'm looking at the chart and i see "monad" but there is also something above it "Divine."  

 

I'm familiar with this from the Tao.  is there a parallel or correlation regarding the highest couple of layers from the chart ("monad" and "Divine") to this flow.  In Tao the ten thousand things is the universe and everything in it.  So I'm always trying to get a sense of how the One, Two, and Three are explained or seen in various paths or frameworks, and before that even above, that which gives birth to the One.

 

The Tao gives birth to the One.

The One gives birth to the Two. 

The Two give birth to the Three. 

The Three give birth to the ten thousand things.

 

     --- from verse 42, Tao Te Ching

 

Thank you for the engaging discussion.

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 02:40 AM by BigSkyDiamond

[BigSkyDiamond]

14 minutes ago, 心神 ~ said:

 

You might enjoy Finding the Mother Tree: Discovering the Wisdom of the Forest by Suzanne Simard, a forest ecologist who studies the interconnected social life of trees, and their relationship to the mycelial network.

 

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The older trees are able to discern which seedlings are their own kin. The old trees nurture the young ones and provide them food and water just as we do with our own children. It is enough to make one pause, take a deep breath, and contemplate the social nature of the forest and how this is critical for evolution. The fungal network appears to wire the trees for fitness. And more. These old trees are mothering their children. The Mother Trees. When Mother Trees—the majestic hubs at the center of forest communication, protection, and sentience—die, they pass their wisdom to their kin, generation after generation, sharing the knowledge of what helps and what harms, who is friend or foe, and how to adapt and survive in an ever-changing landscape. It’s what all parents do.

 

I love this !!   It's like if i hear a child crying in the shopping mall i can tell if it's one of my kids.  The Mother Trees do that too !!

Edited Wednesday at 02:26 AM by BigSkyDiamond

[Lairg]

1 hour ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

Help me understand, so does everything (all physical and non-physical, the universe and everything in it) flow from and trace back to the single Entity at the top?  Not just me and all my lives, but all species and all of everything?   I'm not sure what Existence refers to.   Is it the "universe and everything in it"?  So just like all the quartz has access to each other, then we have access to everything because we are all part of the same One, is that it?

 

I'm looking at the chart and i see "monad" but there is also something above it "Divine."  

 

In the Hindu tradition the Mahapralaya  is the gap between the universe ceasing to exist and the next universe being manifested.  Locally it is the gap when Existence is not occurring.

 

The universe is the body of "incarnation" for a great spirit, that is called the Universal Logos in some traditions.

 

There are many universes and they are clustered as bodies for yet greater Logoi

 

There are many many layers of clustering.

 

Before any universes there is Beingness - with no manifested existence of any kind.

 

Periodically Beingness seems to desire experience and causes Existence with its myriad universes and intelligences - and Beingness interpenetrates them all

 

Some intelligences have a double dose of Beingness - including the soul-bearing humans.  

 

The intelligences with the double dose (and possibly much more) are useful in generating coherence within Existence and assist with providing "experiences" relevant to Beingness.

 

Plato's concept of Empyrean seems largely compatible with the above account

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empyrean   

 

 

 

The Cosmic Physical Plane has 7 subplanes: physical, emotional, mental, buddhic/heart, atma/intent, monadic and logoic.

 

Then there are the cosmic astral, cosmic mental etc.

 

The 7 cosmic planes are subplanes of the universal physical plane .......etc

 

And each set of subplanes is penetrated by the Five Electricities that carry the life force into the densest levels 

 

  These FIV E sorts of ELECTRICITIES being attracted under the influence of Universal Love, the Holy Ghost [CHIT], toward the Real Substance SAT, produce a magnetic field, which is called the body of Sattwa Buddhi, the intelligence. These five electricities being the causes of all other creations are called the PANCHA - TATTWA, the five root causes, and named as Causal Body of Purusha, the son of man 

https://yoganandaharmony.com/wp-content/uploads/Sri-Yukteswar-Cosmology.pdf