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Where should I start?

I always find it hard to introduce myself, because I myself still don't know enough of "me" to be able to make a concise introduction...

 

Well let me start by saying that my interest in Daoism/Taoism started because a few years ago I started to read novels about cultivation...yes, it were those works of fiction that got me intrigued but I'll admit that back then it wasn't enough intrigue to make me want to search more about it.

 

Fast forward to, what?Two or three years ago?

I found a website where there were many pdfs of books there, and yes among them there was a section about Taoism too.I got curious, I decided to check it and see some of those books.I won't lie saying that I finished reading any of the books I picked to "check", but it did made me question things, and due to that I decided to learn more(and hopefully start to actively practice) about Daoism/Taoism...and yeah i also like the subject of Alchemy(in general) and learning that there was such a thing like Neigong really caught my Western mind's attention.I love the idea of being able to change something into another(even better), the idea that a person can be like a metal ingot(useless in it's raw state but able to become something with purpose, identity, meaning and utility) that can be forged into something better.

 

I'm still lost in the practical side of it though, because what I tend to see are teachings peppered with New Age stuff, fake or repuposed to fit other things(i.e. Yoga, Reiki, etc.).

 

I guess for a general introduction about "Daoism/Taoism and Me" this sums it all.

 

Now just some trivia that won't reveal much about myself, but might be fun to know:

 

-Based on my personality I tend to feel more affinity to the elements of Fire, Lightning and Metal, but for some reason I feel at peace when underwater or feeling the wind.

-Not a "nature person" but due to an enhanced sense of smell and hearing I tend to not like completely urban environments.A mix of both is most prefered.

-Never drank nor smoked, and don't intend to.Not a fan of red meat, mostly fish and chicken(otherwise eggs and veggies).

-I want to learn many languages, even if it's hard to actually learn them.

-I think I can feel my "Qi" very well in my arms and hands, but not so much from the chest down.

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Hi Knowthing, Welcome to the Dao Bums.  You seem a naturally healthy inclined person.  The book learning is important.  It can provide new ways to see the world, but just as important, maybe more so, is the doing.  Does what you read inspire you to action.  This is a good place to make connections and chew the fat.  Welcome

 

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