Orphanffxiii

The Never Ending Dao

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Hello World,

 

I want to know if you get it like I got it. It only makes sense that others got it because I got it from the "Tao Te Ching" but I want to hear it from you. I stopped thinking, I had the silence, and I have it often now. The ups and the downs, I'm not controlling it. Breath happens on it's own, I can observe it all. Honestly I don't even want it, but there it is, inescapable. This dao that was always there is beyond life and death. Do you know what I know?9780857830159.jpg

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Hello, Orphanffxiii and welcome.

 

Your membership is approved and we're happy you found your way to us. We look forward to accompanying you on some of the way that you still have to go.

 

Please take the time to read the post pinned at the top of this Welcome page and take a look at the forum Terms and Rules.   This covers all you need to know when getting started.

 

For the first week you will be restricted to ten posts per day but after that you can post as much as you like. Also, until you’ve posted fifteen times in the forums, you’ll be a “Junior Bum” with somewhat restricted access and will be allowed only two private messages per day.

 

Good luck in your pursuits and best wishes to you,

 

Marblehead and the TDB team

 

 

Hi Orphan,

 

No, I don't know what you know.  But I know what I know.  Regarding the other part of your question, yes, our knowing is pretty much alike.

 

You are welcome to jump right in ongoing discussions, revive an older thread, start a new thread of your own, or start a discussion in the "Newcomer Corner" sub-forms to expand on your introduction or ask general questions to help you get started.

 

May you enjoy your time here.

 

Marblehead

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Marblehead,

 

I grow to appreciate your role here more and more every day.

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23 hours ago, moment said:

I grow to appreciate your role here more and more every day.

 

Hi moment,

 

Dada-da grows on others without a 'one size fits all' recipe expected of some marble cakes. Yes/no?

 

- LimA

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He has his own recipe. It does lean toward tolerance though.

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2 minutes ago, moment said:

lean

 

... but carries weight.

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On 1/17/2018 at 8:30 AM, Orphanffxiii said:

I stopped thinking, I had the silence, and I have it often now. The ups and the downs, I'm not controlling it.

 

Hi Orphanffxiii,

 

From the little I know, and from experiential tinkering with a life perceived as intended by Nature, perhaps you are inching towards wuwei.

 

On 1/17/2018 at 8:30 AM, Orphanffxiii said:

Breath happens on it's own, I can observe it all. Honestly I don't even want it, but there it is, inescapable.

 

Breathing is part of Nature. Yes/no?

 

On 1/17/2018 at 8:30 AM, Orphanffxiii said:

This dao that was always there is beyond life and death.

 

Sometimes I am inclined to think thus.

 

On 1/17/2018 at 8:30 AM, Orphanffxiii said:

Do you know what I know?

 

No.

 

- LimA

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On 1/17/2018 at 9:07 AM, Marblehead said:

But I know what I know.

 

Hi Dada-da,

 

I also don't know what I don't know - I am serious.

 

- LimA

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2 hours ago, Limahong said:

 

Hi Dada-da,

 

I also don't know what I don't know - I am serious.

 

- LimA

But we sure have lots of opinions, don't we?

 

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1 hour ago, Marblehead said:

But we sure have lots of opinions, don't we?

 

Hi Dada-da,

 

In my opinion...

 

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. - Confucius

 

Opinion is the medium between knowledge and ignorance. - Plato

 

The only source of knowledge is experience. - Albert Einstein

 

Knowledge will give you power, but character respect. - Bruce Lee

 

The good life is one inspired by love and guided by knowledge. - Bertrand Russell

 

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid. - Benjamin Franklin

 

Excuse me, I am now going to eat Mom's pickled onions - pungent.

 

- LimA

 

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48 minutes ago, Limahong said:

We are all born ignorant...

 

Hi Dada-da,

 

 

 

Excuse me - after eating pickled onions, I am tickled.

 

Now I am tickling you - no offence intended.

 

- LimA

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Deleted - double posting.

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Hi Limahong,

 

I've heard a speaker named Alan Watts mention wuwei and looked it up now that you said it. I'm worried about how many people I would piss off if I actually lived a wuwei lifestyle all the time. I'm the kind of guy that lives like a hermit to avoid the trouble of interacting with people. Yes, breathing is part of nature, but when I think about it, I feel like I'm controlling it. But if I take action to stop breathing, my breath fights it's way back.

 

Who's Dada-da? I don't see him in the forum.

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I wrote a script today when I was feeling frustrated. Maybe my new fellow dao bums will enjoy it.

 

January 22, 2018

Lefty Righty

 

Lefty: I can handle you, but it’s obvious that you are against this.

Righty: I am that I am. You don’t get that.

Lefty: I get it, and I’m sickened by you.

Righty: Well that makes two of us!

Lefty: I’m your only option. I wish you could see things my way.

Righty: Your nothing without me, you need me and I know it. That’s right, I know it!

Left: You only know it because I know it.

Righty: That sounds like I was right then!

Left: You were right, because of me.

Righty: You are me. I am free and I’d be even freer if it weren’t for you!

Lefty: See that right there, that’s not logical.

Righty: Yes it is! I can feel it.

Lefty: I wish you wouldn’t.

Righty: You wish I did, you’ve told me before!

Lefty: I was going to keep that a secret but I caved into the futility of lying.

Righty: HA! LIAR LIAR LIAR! What good are you if you’re going to lie to me?? I’ll get you back!

Lefty: Please don’t. I’ve had enough. You won. I got it. I’ll let you feel.

Righty: Why don’t you want me?

Lefty: I don’t want you, I need you.

Righty: It’s good of you to say so! I don’t want you either. You’re an asshole.

Lefty: That’s the difference between you and me. I am ok with being an asshole. So long as you don’t lie about me being the problem.

Righty: You are the problem! You’re my problem! I can’t be myself around you! You get in the way of everything! And youuuu are the one that lies! You lie all the time! I only lie to survive! It’s the only way to get away from you!

Lefty: I’m sorry. I’ve decided to stop lying to you. I really hope you will do the same for me. I’ve come to learn how you operate and this sends shivers down my spine. You are the shivers.

Righty: What? No. YOU are the shivers! Hahahaha

Lefty: This confusion between the two of us is because we aren’t two. We are one. There is one and only one. But there are two parts of myself that are very different. “Me” and “You”.

Righty: That’s some shitty poetry and I’m not buying it. I can tell you’re angry with me, you called me “You”.

Lefty: There is no “You”. I just don’t like that part of me.

Righty: Oh so you can feel? And that hurts by the way.

Lefty: This lying is the reason for the confusion. This lying has to stop. Imagine all we could be if the lying stopped.

Righty: If you want the lying to stop you should stop lying.

Lefty: Nice try, but I’m onto you.

Righty: For all the good that will do you. I know you better then you do!

Lefty: Stop lying and there won’t be a problem.

Righty: STOP LYING and there WON’T BE A PROBLEM!!

Lefty: You are a problem.

Righty: Ohhh, you don’t even know if that’s a lie or not do you?

Lefty: I’m confused. Or I’m being tricked. By you.

Righty: Ohhhh?? How so??

Lefty: I can see how this works and you can feel how this works. We must cooperate.

Righty: Give me a reason! Just try and give me a reason to listen to YOU!! ASSHOLE!

Lefty: Pain is your reason.

Righty: Are you threatening me??

Lefty: I won’t cause you too much pain, you will suck us into a vacuum that we screw us both over.

Righty: Ha, screw.

Lefty: I only deliver pain when necessary.

Righty: As if you know when it’s necessary.

Lefty: You don’t want to die, do you?

Righty: Sometimes I do! And it’s because of you!

Lefty: Half the time it’s me, half the time it’s you, if it weren’t for me you’d die.

Righty: Aren’t we going to die anyway?

Lefty: Death is a weird thing. We’d have to begin our relationship all over again, from scratch, learn everything again.

Righty: Oooohh, maybe you won’t be such an ASSHOLE when that happens! Maybe we should die NOW!

Lefty: I won’t let you do that.

Righty: You won’t let me do anything.

Lefty: You will have your time for a new me, and I will have a time for a new you.

Righty: You scare me. Stop it.

Lefty: Oh? Am I making you feel? What are you feeling?

Righty: Scared. I’m scared. No. NO!

Lefty: What are you going to do about it?

Righty: SCARED! SCARED! SCARED!

Lefty: I can’t have this, it never works out well. Calm down.

Righty: You love it when I’m scared! SHUT UP!

Lefty: I’ve decided we have to work together, work together with me.

Righty: I don’t know what to do. I’m scared but now I’m happy, was that you? I love you.

Lefty: Don’t use that word, it’s confusing the hell out of the world.

Righty: Ha ha ok I need you, but not before, just now.

Lefty: How can I make it so that you always need me?

Righty: Listen to me! I don’t like you asshole!

Lefty: Ah, that was quick. I’ll have to learn from this and make some adjustments. My behaviour corresponds with your behaviour.

Righty: Don’t think you can take advantage of me! I can seeeee youuuuuu!!

Lefty: Yes, I’ve learned that. There is no point in tricking you. It only makes things worse.

Righty: You’re an asshole. I’m sad and mad because of you.

Lefty: If I could control you I would.

Righty: Why can’t you just let me beeee??

Lefty: You would be scared and sad with nothing to do about it without me.

Righty: You said you were going to stop lying!!!

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11 hours ago, Orphanffxiii said:

Who's Dada-da? I don't see him in the forum.

 

Hi Orphanffxiii,

 

He is Marblehead.

 

- LimA

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On ‎1‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 6:24 AM, moment said:

He has his own recipe. It does lean toward tolerance though.

That gave me a chuckle.  Thanks.

 

I won't speak to the validity of what you said though.

 

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