Spotless Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Northern climates are traditionally those with less reliance on agriculture and more on meat - but this has nothing to do with the modern day situation and the discussion as to whether a person is easily able to follow a vegan diet in one area or another or even if it is possible. IF one is able to be a vegan in any given area - they can thrive right along with the next person. Obviously a bush person with little to work with will eat what comes along and bowling alleys have bowling balls. Edited July 30, 2015 by Spotless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bud Jetsun Posted July 30, 2015 Many humans are free to eat whatever they choose to purchase and eat, irregardless of location, irregardless of season. When they choose to pay others to torture and murder innocent conscious beings, and then partake in a corpse eating rituals, they get to live this suffering themselves. If a mind is so polluted and cloudy it can mask awareness and/or justify the ethics of torture and murder of innocent beings, it can only be superficially mocking introspection practices through invisibly compartmentalized psyche barriers. Know yourself first. Choose if you are a being who pays others to torture and murder living beings, each with there own unique personalities, in exchange for your temporary flavor sensations. Nobody else can have ethics for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted August 13, 2015 Re: ----- "If you would like great examples of Vegans you can just look at many of the beautiful girls coming out of a Yoga class." ----- These people have been "vegan" for a few months or years. Check back with them in 20, 30, 40 years, after they have had children and raised the children. Check back with them after there are decades of living, good observation, and routine blood tests. They could take supplement products to compensate for their idea of veganism - b12, "vitamin" D, etc. A lifetime of supplements? What is needed is an understanding of Natural Order. We need to know what that is. Isn't this why we study Taoism? Or, are we merely searching for a more acceptable, stylish, or sentimental abstraction from it? -VonKrankenhaus 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dust Posted August 13, 2015 They could take supplement products to compensate for their idea of veganism - b12, "vitamin" D, etc. A lifetime of supplements? What is needed is an understanding of Natural Order. The "Natural Order" is corrupted in modern human society. The few things that it is claimed that we can only get from animal products are readily available in a wild/natural environment. B12 is produced by a bacteria that resides in the intestines; the same bacteria is found in natural water sources. It is only because we "purify" all our water that most people nowadays can only get it from eating meat (or supplements). And vitamin D? Go outside, get some sun. That simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted August 14, 2015 Re: ----- "The "Natural Order" is corrupted in modern human society." ----- I believe this is a mistaken idea. But I do agree with the other ideas about B12 and sunshine, etc. Natural Order remains untouched (if not natural things), and "modern human society" is an imaginary construct that requires many years of training and/or experience to even see. Tao is incorruptable by human ideas and concepts. So it is an imaginary dichotomy, between some human concepts and the way things really happen. This is like making a choice about what we study - do we study newsfeeds and TV commercials to find out what corporations say is "good"? Or do we study reality to see what is "real"? Whichever we spent our time on, that's what we know best. -VonKrankenhaus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
