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Hi everyone, I found this forum when looking for information about zifa gong. I hope to find people who have walked the path and are happy to share experience. My dad taught me zifa gong for a short time when i was a teenager. I didnt practice for about 20 years, now just got back to it. Last night, fear creeped in as i practiced because i started to have feelings my body was not familiar with. Btw, i think i passed zifa gong phase as my body now sits me down from standing position, but im not sure, i have no teachers. Theres no neigong master where i live, i dont think this can be taught online, there are too many people fake it to get money or views. It seems there are a few here who have reached higher level than where i am now. If you are practicing neigong, I hope if you would be happy to share with me about your journey and your experience. TIA

As a new person to both of these systems... They appear pretty similar in overall instructions (relax and put awareness on LDT and just let go and let the body spontaneously do what it does). Although Kunlun has raised heels and arms / hands which help "turn on" the movements, whereas in S-M you cover the LDT with your hands. But my question is... are the outcomes of both the systems similar / the same over time since they are focused on similar areas and spontaneous body movement? Or, do they open the body up in different ways? I haven't done as much S-M as I have done Kunlun. But I notice with Kunlun, holding the hand positions seems to open up the energy between my palms, which also seems to parallel or spread the energy to the channel between my LDT and MDT. I'm not sure if this is intended or not. I also get more spontaneous body movement doing Kunlun as the raised heels get it kickstarted. I guess before I get going too far in one system or another, I would like to know if the outcomes are similar between the 2 systems? Or, I'm completely missing the mark. That way I can choose a system now before getting too involved. for me, I do have health problems (lower back, bladder / kidneys, immune system, digestion, gut health). So this is for healing, but also for developing Qi and spiritual / mental / energetic growth. Thank you!

Hi all, I have been studying/practicing qigong/taiji/yoga for 20+ years, reading everything I can find. I also have professional training in TCM, with qigong/taiji training from multiple teachers, but I feel like it is time to take my practice to the next level. For now, I have only found Lotus Neigong and Ba Men Da Xuan online training systems. I know people say that this is something that we need a teacher for, but I don't live in an area where there are live teachers. For this reason, I am looking for a system that I can learn from books and videos. I would be able to travel from time to time, but really am looking for a complete system that I can learn mostly online. Is there anyone here that can vouch for either of the above systems or is there a better one that you could recommend? I am open to suggestions. TIA