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Marty schooling George

Orangutan school 

So something you hear a lot about these days, is that fewer people especially men, are having sex than ever before. It’s quite bizarre.

i remember about 10 years ago people would talk about the huge rates of “herbivore men” in Japan who never had sex, and you’d think that could never happen here.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-herbivores-idUSTRE56Q0C220090727

It seems the phenomenon has come to the west now too though.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.joe.ie/amp/life-style/amount-men-30-not-sex-nearly-tripled-past-decade-663846

People have tried to blame everything from tinder, to low t levels,  to porn, and the bitter and misogynistic have even tried to blame women.

I think only I have identified one crucial factor though. And that’s the maturity and development of the people’s personalities.

One thing that’s been universally observed by almost anyone I know of who pays attention to these things, is that guys who are good at the courtship process, who connect easily with women, or who understand how to communicate with the gender of their choice, always start off at a young age.

Think of the male gender for example, when two men communicate it’s almost always a logical discussion.They have no inborn desire to speak to each other in emotional terms cuz they never got any evolutionary advantage from it, so see no value in it. But when interacting with a woman in a romantic context, well that will usually require speaking on an emotional level. Women will often appreciate a man speaking in Emotional terms.

That requires a bit of effort and learning as it may not come naturally to a lot of dudes.

So think about it, who is the more socially, mentally, and emotionally developed person? The one who has been dating and had relationships since they were 15 or a 19 year old who has no experience? Let’s say they both are 20 and both have crushes on the same girl. Who’s gonna get her? the guy who has been dating and had relationships since he was 15 or the 20 year old virgin?

It’s obvious who’s gonna get the girl 

No different than a pianist with 5 years experience playing in a concert against a total noob. It’s a no contest.

A lot of reports also say that in places where men are more timid or less experienced like Norway, Sweden etc. it’s easier for a man to convince a woman to cheat on a bf or leave a bf. It may very well be true.

So if you want to know why there are so many sexless adult men who as a result must be emotionally stunted, I think you gotta look at age of virginity stats. 
 

It appears the trend has been going for a long time actually. Since at least 1991.

So it seems the logical conclusion is that in general, there's gonna be more awkward stunted guys and fewer confident naturals than ever before.

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"Percentages of high school students who reported ever having sexual intercourse range from 38% in ninth grade to 60.9% in 12th grade. This compares with the 1991 figures of 39% for grade 9 and 66.7% for grade 12, the CDC said.

The overall percentage of sexually experienced teenage males decreased from 57.4% in 1991 to 48.8% in 1997, CDC said, whereas sexually active females decreased from 50.8% to 47.7%.

The trend toward abstinence contrasts with the promiscuity of the 1970s and ‘80s, when sexual activity ballooned among teenagers, Kolbe said. Sexual activity among girls 15 to 19, for example, jumped from 29% in 1970 to 57% in 1988, according to previous studies."

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-sep-18-mn-24018-story.html

 

So think about that. 
 
According to the data, Prior to 1970 people were extremely repressed and underdeveloped socially and emotionally. Only 29% of people under 20 had lost their virginity. That’s seriously messed up


The  period from 1970 to 1988 saw unprecedented progression in human social development, where in only 2 decades rates of virginity loss for those under 20 shot up to 60-70 percent or more. A clear indication of a society wide advancement in social skills.
 

Think about Marty Mcfly in 1985 as compared to George Mcfly in 1955

There’s no comparison who was more mature and more developed as a person.

But since 1991 or so society has started to decline. Or regress. Virginity rates are going up. Social awkwardness is going up.

No one seems to know why.

Some people have suggested that prior to 1970 society was repressed by an imbalance of male power suppressing female power, resulting in a lot of social awkwardness and stunted development.

But then society advanced greatly, and virginity rates went way down through the 70s and 80s as society became less male dominated

But why did it regress again? Why have things gotten almost as bad today as pre 1970s

I found some research that kind of points towards that at least in dating, the context, the framing, the meaning attached to it, the purpose of it, has in fact now become too female dominated….

 
 

 

 

 

"Fewer than 40% of American high schoolers have ever had sexual intercourse, a decline of over 15 percentage points since the early 1990s. The historic drop is one of the findings in the 2019 iteration of the Youth Risk Behavior Survey (YRBS), a biannual survey administered by the CDC that tracks risky behaviors, including sexual intercourse, among America's high schoolers. Administered to high school students across the country since 1991, the YRBS offers one of the more detailed longitudinal views of the state of high school sexual activity.

What this year's report shows is yet another drop in that activity, consistent with the more or less continuous trend since 1991. Closer examination reveals that most teens are having less sex and delaying sex longer, and that sexually-active teens have fewer lifetime sexual partners. That confirms other data indicating that American teenagers are far more risk averse than their parents, challenging the popular media representation of an increasingly sexualized adolescent life. 

In 2019, some 38.4% of high schoolers reported that they had ever had sex, down from 39.5% in 2017, 46% in 2009, and 54% in 1991. (The YRBS only tracks frequency of "sexual intercourse" and does not ask about other sex-related but non-intercourse activities.)

Boys were slightly more likely (39.2%) than girls (37.6%) to self-report having had sex, a disparity that appears across most surveys and likely represents response bias. Just 27.4% of teens were currently sexually active, a decline from 28.7% a year ago, 34.2% a decade ago, and 37.5% in 1991.

Not only are high schoolers having less sex; they are having it, on average, later and later. That's reflected in grade-level data, which show the largest declines in ever having had sexual intercourse among ninth graders, down a full 20 percentage points since 1991. Twelfth graders, by contrast, have only fallen by 10 percentage points—a disparity that suggests that some rising high schoolers "catch up" to their '90s peers later on.[\quote]
https://ifstudies.org/blog/fewer-american-high-schoolers-having-sex-than-ever-before

 


https://www.washington.edu/news/2002/05/02/number-of-teens-primarily-boys-having-sex-declined-in-90s-as-adolescent-girls-lead-way-in-redefining-relationships/

 



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So the question is what can be done?

 

When I think of Marty vs. George Mcfly, Marty’s idea was to teach George to be a cooler guy. Sort like deliberate learning, rather then Marty who naturally “had it”

 

 

Or I was watching discovery channel or something like that, and there was a show called “Orangutan School”. It was about Orangutan orphans who had lost their mothers.

 

The Orangutans couldn’t live in the wild on their own, they didn’t know how so had to be rescued by humans. But the humans eventually wanted to release the Orangutans back into the wild. But the Orangutans had to first be taught how to survive before they could be released. They had to be rehabbed and taught by humans what they didn’t learn naturally in the jungle.

 

Could be the future for humans too, not so different from Orangutans 

 

 

"What did change in the 1990s was the context for high school sex. The authors write, “our best informed guess is that the cultural norms for girls’ sexuality have dramatically changed. Girls are now presumed sexually active inside, but not outside, romantic relationships. Boys are therefore now much more likely to begin their sexual lives with a girlfriend.”

This contrasts with pre-sexual revolution times when boys had their initial sexual encounter with so-called “bad” girls or “sluts” who were outside their social circle.

“Girls are not having less sex today, but they are insisting that they have it in a relationship,” said Schwartz. “However, the definition of a relationship has changed. This drives parents crazy because a boyfriend can be like the flavor of the month rather than going with a guy for two years.

“A girl today might be called a ‘slut’ because she had sex outside a relationship, not because of the number of partners she had. Boys have to conform to this social context. A boy can’t play around and have a girlfriend. His girlfriend may not be ready for sex so the boy delays his sexual activity or leaves the relationship.”"

 

Nowadays people usually call Taoist exercises daoyin or qigong, it's just that in the past like in the 1970s no one knew what qigong was so they just called it "taoist yoga" cuz a few westerners such as hippies and the like were familiar with yoga.

It's simply the development of, gathering of, use of, focusing of, mixing of, purification of, refinement of, etc. Universal life energy within the body.

1 hour ago, Cobie said:

Please reread your post.

Then see the effect on someone else.

Then please reconsider your motivation for posting. 

 

 

I dont really have a particular motivation, but here are some words of wisdom by Dave Chappelle which reflects how fundamental sex is to everything, from a real world practical material perspective there really is nothing more fundamental 

If men could fuck in a cardboard box, we wouldn't build houses 😂👍😉

In fact you dont need a house to fuck,  you can play on the fantasy of doing it outdoors, where you might get caught, a fantasy location, beach at night, park bushes, etc

This was an eye opening news report back in the day

Here is a classic 80s song of fundamental truth 

34 minutes ago, cloud444 said:

buddy you are stupid. you don't read clearly. go pay your two prostitues a week and have your sex. seriously. i was on some medications when i was younger and weened off them. i only added that to elaborate how long i was suffering. by the time all this energy stuff happened i was mostly off the medication and well on my way to health. i took some anti seizure meds after a head injury. ALL of that was basically healed by the time this energy stuff happened. i am not " confused" about the timeline of my own life 

Huh, you wrote that article?

you’re apparently also confused, cuz earlier you were elated that article was the only thing you’ve read that was similar to what you believed you experienced
 

But the guy that wrote that article is obviously just mentally ill and messed up from anti psychotic drugs

I don’t pay prostitutes I meet girls from tinder and cold approach 

On 2022-11-10 at 1:51 AM, Master Logray said:

@cloud444, @freeform's advice is to return to being a normal person first, stay away from all these stuff.   Then I wonder if you ever have a "normal" life or it is too long away that you cannot remember.  So it takes quite some time before you can figure out how to do it.

 

So I propose let your body "kill" itself as in your title, by a simple method.  You just sleep more, more and more.  There would be no music, no meditation, no attention to breathing, no sleeping cultivation.  Just simple sleeping.   If you can't fall into sleep, never mind.  Just carry on.  It is the most painless way to quiet down all running wide processes, replenish your Jing.    Many people suffered from big problems find relief by this method.  Good luck.

 

 

https://realization.org/p/a-d/when-kundalini-breaks-the-last-block.html

 

That guy seems very confused.

He mentions he took powerful anti psychotic drugs which is pretty messed up in itself and probably gonna permanently screw up your energy and body anyways 

A lot of the things he seems to think are a mysterious “kundalini” force in his body are likely things caused by the drugs he took, or symptoms of mental illness.

He seems to think the symptoms started before he took the drugs, but he’s likely confused about the timeline.

What do you mean?

The human body is extremely precious, and likely the highest form of concentrated energy in existence in this material universe.  

It's also impermanent and everybody has to accept they will give it up sooner or later 

The guy literally said his dick didn’t work. That’s game over. That’s not celibacy that’s a defect or indicative of death. It’s counter to life. The opposite of life.

You could say death is an illusion, but it still exists on this plane here and now

Yeah but they had very specific practices and paths 

Probably mass amounts of meditation, love and bliss meditations, insane amounts of qigong or yoga, etc.

Otherwise that would be very unnatural and break a person's will and motivation, or turn them into a rapist or child molester or things like that. 

Here's a thread I posted about it a long time ago

On 2022-11-06 at 1:53 AM, freeform said:

People call any movement of Qi ‘kundalini’.

 

Your spine and the channels around your spine are responsible for moving and even generating Yang Qi. And kundalini is said to go up the spine - so people draw parallels.

 

Yang Qi in this case interacts directly with your nervous system. Which is what causes sensations, spasms, even issues involving your adrenals - and the myriad other possible positive and negative effects.

 

Its not kundalini - it’s qi or prana.

 

Kundalini works at a deeper level than the nervous system.

 

But whatever you call it, it’s not too important… ‘kundalini’, ‘Yang Qi, ‘prana’… it doesn’t matter.

 

As long as you’re focused on it… fighting it… keeping it down… raising it up… controlling it in some way - you’re causing yourself more and more trouble.

 

Any qi divination has to start with moving the awareness away from that aspect of the self.

 

You don’t fight it, or try to ignore it… you simply put your awareness on something other than that.

 

It doesn’t matter if you still feel or experience it. Your awareness needs to be fully and honestly directed away from it… on something external… let it carry on happening in the background, that’s fine - but stop paying it any more attention than to the rest of what is available to your awareness. That’s why walks, time with friends, activities with dexterity or hand-eye coordination are good - because these are great things that will naturally pull on your attention and have you focusing and becoming absorbed by something else for a long enough time.

 

Particularly time with friends, other people will help with a change in mental habit. Moving the mind away from the same broken record of pain, fear, fear of pain, fear of fear, self victimisation… self isolation… self aggrandisation etc…

 

The mind needs to get back to relative normality - and that can only happen with the help of other people, relationships and healthy habits.

 

The second part is getting the body back into homeostasis.

 

With most of these ‘kundalini syndromes’ (aka qi deviations) the main problem is ‘heating an empty pot’.

 

Ever walked away from a boiling soup and came back only to find everything has been evaporated and all you’re left with is a horrible burnt, smoking mess?

 

Well that’s what’s happening in the body… the Yin of the body has been cooked away into nothing by the Yang… But the Yang now rages even harder as there is no Yin to balance it out… but it rages harder even though it doesn’t have access to fuel (which is also Yin.) So it starts to burn up whatever it can - including nerves, bones, marrow etc etc etc.

 

Yang rises (especially when there’s no Yin to anchor it down)… it goes to your heart and your head… it creates problems with emotions - basically fuelling any emotional movement… it starts to distort mental processes. The result is a mixture of mania and lots of delusions, non-stop, psychotic-like thinking etc.

 

Thats why both the mind and the body need some help.

 

To get the body back into homeostasis we need to take a long road of replenishing Yin… which means a constant diet of very simple nourishing foods… like what a pregnant lady 200 years ago might have eaten during winter.

 

The other part is getting the body processes back into a natural rhythm… waking at the same time EVERY day… going outside (rain or shine) at the same time every day… eating… going to bed… exercising - all at the same time every day.

 

This isn’t about living a rich life of spontaneous creativity… this is about repairing a severely out of whack system.

 

So my recommendation to Cloud (and others in a similar situation) isn’t just made up by me coz it sounds sensible.
 

It’s a literal prescription - every part of it has to be done - and one has to keep doing it non stop… often for many years!

 

To get some relief doesn’t take that long… but relief is not cure. It’s a long road - for serious cases like this, I would say you need to live this way for a minimum of 3 years - and then see.

 

Of course medical expertise is important too. 
 

If you have access to a good Chinese medicine practitioner - that’s even better.

 

If you have a therapist or body worker - and they fully understand the direction you’re trying to move in… then that’s also great. 
 

But in reality it’s the consistent and diligent application of lifestyle changes that will make the biggest difference in this sort of thing.

Lol yeah

For all the talk of wacky things like "kundalini syndrome"

"Kundalini side effects"

"The 49 levels of super duper kundalini awakening "

And other stupidity....

It seems like on all the descriptions you ever see out there of what the supposed symptoms or signs of kundalini awakening are, most of them are what are actually called "qi deviations" or what is called "qigong sickness" which is simply caused by improper practice or systems with bad methods or incorrect theory. 

I'm just so drawn to the practices like the ones on this video though, like to develop the life energy, especially in the morning to carry through the rest of the day, and whole life. 

I dont know why but I cant shake my desire to know these practices, I'm inexplicably drawn to this Yoga, like theres a deep desire in me to know this type of practice, cant even really explain why.

I think just based on my previous background, like in other non Buddhist meditation and qigong systems, these practices seem to ring as true, authentic, and powerful to me,  but it's also strangely coming from deep within me. It's weird.

Still haven’t learned any Trul Khor or Tummo yet which is what first caught my attention towards and got me interested in Buddhism in the first place though lol. Only very simple basic Tummo explanations, probably just to appease the interest a bit, like visualizing a flame below the navel, which can be connected I think to tonglen meditation or giving and receiving meditation, and “subtle breath” training.

On 2022-01-11 at 7:10 AM, Creation said:

You have always seemed to me like someone who gives 100% to what you are interested in.  The thing about mind trainings is they help people who struggle with motivation to develop it.  For those who are naturally motivated to practice but are still living a lay life, hitting the mind trainings as hard as everyone else might not be so important.  Have you talked with your Drikung community about this?  I have serious respect for the Drikung lineage's activities in the West.  If you have received teachings on Vajrayana and Dzogchen, have you received instructions on integrating the practice with daily life?  Just curious, what books on Mahamudra and Dzogchen have you read and gotten benefit from?

At this point quite a few, I don’t wanna say too much or reveal what I study or give anything away for trolls to search me out, but I especially found the Ganges Mahamudra instructions  by Tiliopa to be insightful, lots of finger pointing instructions, seeing through naked awareness by padmasambhava, lamp to dispel darkness, flight of the Garuda by Shabkar Tsodrug Randrol, The Excellent path to enlightenment Jigten Sumgon’s 5 fold mahamudra, Manjushri clear wisdom dzogchen, are a few off the top of my head

On 11/01/2022 at 10:27 AM, Apech said:

 

That's interesting - because I find exactly the opposite.  I would naturally retreat and abstract myself from everyday life which I find a bit pointless and disturbing.  But if I practice mind-training and sadhanas etc. I feel and am much more engaged with others and 'the world' generally.

 

 

Actually yeah what you’re describing is not so different from what I meant. It’s like I started grasping less to daily life especially interacting with others. Which I absolutely love doing.

I didn’t mean to suggest I was less engaged or less aware, or that my mind was dulled in any way, no to the contrary meditation always makrs me more alert and clear. It's just that I stopped grasping at things to the point of not really desiring to follow thoughts or desires.

Back when I wrote this what I had in mind was that I had recently been to a dispensary and the girl behind the counter was pretty cute and I liked her. But my mind was just not really grasping at anything. I was not really following desires or thoughts, I felt like my desire had sort of lost its root. It was there but it’s root was weak so I didnt follow it.

normally I’d try to flirt, get a number, hell even try to pull her to go with me in The back room while there aren’t any other customers. Not saying that’s realistic, I’ve never actually pulled that off, taking a girl into the back room While she’s working, but the point is, as a man you tried. That’s what counts. It's one thing to just back away, hesitate, or get nervous, and be disappointed with yourself, but it's a weird thing to not think to or desire to.

But I didn’t try, I just started finding pleasure in breathing in prana/qi/universal life force and being aware of my channels, or just emptying my mind even while in public. Like even when talking to a cute girl my mind just went to my breath, my channels circulating, and wanted to go in a meditating state. That was bizarre and it was becoming habituated.

i feel I have a better balance now, engaging life more, meditating a lot still, gaining bliss, but also engaging life and always going for what I want as a man when I see it. 
 

I’m actually very happy and blissful and have sex with endless girls.

Like a wish fulfilling jewel of women 

I wish I had this ability to seduce when I was like 18 I would have had insane amounts of sex

That’s really rough man. I feel like you’re probably right that you’re gonna die. The thing is, without being able to have sex there is nothing to live for, and  your sexual drive it’s the fundamental source of your health, motivation, and drive in life.

some people might say oh well just focus on meditation and getting out of samsara, just give up all attachment to everything. The real natural state of your mind is pure effortlessness.

but I dunno if that’s attainable, cuz you still have to have vitality, some people talk about “skillful

means”, putting in effort etc

like I believe you can sort of transmute that sexual drive as well as your universal energy, into bliss and seeing your own mind.

Without the sexual drive to push that forward I’m skeptical you could even have the energy to abandon samsara.

it’s like sex drive is really the foundation of all and the purpose of existence, it’s what drives your life forward, without it you’re likely completely fucked, probably going to lower realms cuz how could you go up without strong sexual drive? You can’t, it’s everything in this world 

I bang at least 2 new girls a week, and it really helps me be happier, extremely blissful, motivated, love life. Add in powerful qigong, and deep meditations I have so much bliss and energy and sex I love life

i feel awful for you man, there’s no life without powerful sex drive 

Ok so I have a much better idea now of basic buddhist practices like Sadhana, Mantra accumulation, vajrasattva and meditations including shamatha, vipassana, mahamudra, and dzogchen 

I met a drikung kagyu teacher and they were accessible and really cool seeming people, very sincere and caring people, but light hearted too.

Buddhism can be so crazy sometimes though. It reminds me of a story I heard a long time ago, about like this Island where if sailors landed there, women would feed them lotuses, and then the men would never leave the island and time would pass away like a dream, they'd lose touch with reality

That's what buddhism can be, it really takes over your mind, and mind state.

Makes you forget reality and mundane activities. Next thing you know months pass and you've disengaged life a bit cuz your mind is always constantly thinking of the dharma, and compassion, and regret, and aversion to samsara, and you read these texts and all you think about is meditating more and getting more into that mind state, or true reality as it is, I won't say I see rigpa, but like the strong aspiration and desire to keep getting at rigpa, letting go into it, getting clearer and more aware every day, takes over your mind and personality.

When I started, my worldly activities had strong momentum, and I would also have meditations to energize and engage in my daily life activities. As time goes by though the Buddhist practices keep piling up and taking over

Yesterday I couldn't find motivation to engage in life at all. I couldn't find inspiration or interest in doing anything but meditating and reading mahamudra and dzogchen texts, and mantras. All day.

Its good, but today I had to force myself to cut out all buddhism, to do tai chi and meditations for health and engaging life, I need to get that balance down again, cuz it got to a point buddhism, and milarepa, and aspirations of love for all beings, and renunciation of samsara was taking over a bit too much. If you meditate on these things and do sadhana's every day, they start habituating even after you are practicing and effecting you all day afterwards.

On 2020-09-20 at 10:16 AM, jack hammer said:

I think this may be the right place to ask this: I once read a buddhist said that in some vajrayana circles,alcohol is known as "wisdom water";is there any truth to this rumour?

The buddha's beer is nectar to all sentient beings! No buddha though was ever intoxicated due to drinks not even one bit of intoxication 

Since the Covid-19 lockdowns began, Master Stephen Co has been doing live meditations every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, twice a day at 10:00am PST and 6:00pm PST on his website, Facebook, Instagram and other social media.  I normally wouldn't have been interested but my gf is really into it so I gave it a try and it is actually really cool. I feel really blissful afterwards, with a strong flowing of energy through me, and widened energy pathways. It's so simple you just go to his Facebook. I'd just follow him on Facebook, that's easiest.

He guides Meditation on Twin Hearts which is the foundation of what he practices, as well as The Great Invocation, and even little bits here and there of higher level practices of Arhatic Yoga. He's been being quite generous about opening up bits and pieces of the practices not usually taught openly. Fridays are deep emotional cleansing day.

Follow him on Facebook, his meditations he leads for his followers are powerful, and he has his own "special sauce", or a powerful energy technique he uses to add more spiritual energy to the energy you are developing and make it a lot stronger.

https://www.facebook.com/MasterStephenCo/

Tuesday Oct.13th at 6:00pm PDT he is giving a free class on Pranic Feng Shui and Pranic Healing called "Aligning Your Inner and Outer Worlds"

https://pranichealing.mykajabi.com/align-pfs-psh-registration

Whoa this thread was ahead of it's time. In light of today it may be more relevant than ever. Basically fits right in with the mainstream headlines now

Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, etc.

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/31/ghislaine-maxwell-underage-girls-sex-jeffrey-epstein?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15962416868527&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fus-news%2F2020%2Fjul%2F31%2Fghislaine-maxwell-underage-girls-sex-jeffrey-epstein

Well you may have answered your own question. I don't think Jon Peniel ever claimed to be John the Baptist or the teacher predicted by Edgar Cayce, but I don't know of any other Jon Peniel out there. The teachings certainly do develop the Pineal Gland. 

More on Jon Peniel and Edgar Cayce

http://www.atlantis.to/edgar-cayce.htm

This article has the relevant parts of the actual Edgar Cayce reading. Interestingly this is one of the only readings where it was said that it wasn't necessarily Edgat Cayce's subconscious speaking, but an arch angel type of being, or a hierarchical being speaking through Cayce

Author predicted by Cayce?

http://mkackburn.tripod.com/index.html

It can be done. Dayan gong is both of Kunlun Taoist as well as Pure land Buddhist.

http://www.enveemartialarts.co.uk/qigong.htm

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History

 

Nearly two thousand years ago during the Jin Dynasty (265-420AD), Kunlun Shan, which is a mountain range near Tibet, was home to many Daoists. The monks living there would spend their days studying Daoist teachings, hoping to eventually receive enlightenment and immortality. Kunlun Shan was also home to many wild geese called Da Yan (Big Wild Goose). They were not normal geese as these geese, believed to be the Bar Headed Goose, live twice as long and fly higher than any other geese in the world. The Da Yan became a longevity symbol to the monks who observed these special birds closely. They began to imitate their movements and combine this with Chinese medicine knowledge, eventually forming sets of health exercises known as Dayan Qigong. The Jin Dynasty saw the rapid expansion of both Buddhism and Daoism. One Buddhist monk named Dao An was the translator of many Buddhist texts and connected with the Pure Land (Amitabha) Buddhism particularly. This type of Buddhism concentrated only on chanting the name of Amitabha Buddha so that they might be reborn in his Western Pure Land. The idea of letting go of the mind and body so that enlightenment will happen naturally follows the principles of the Kunlun Dayan Qigong skill. Hence, Dao An was considered the spiritual founder of the skill. 

 

Also more info here

http://www.londonqigong.net/about-kunlun-dayan-qigong/

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Origins of Wild Goose Qigong

Kunlun Shan is a mountain range in Western China, almost on the edges of Tibet and it is here that the Kunlun Dayan Qigong skill was developed during the Jin Dynasty. The skill was developed by Daoist monks who had made this area their home. The monks often observed the wild geese who lived there. Da (Big) Yan (Wild Geese) are considered birds of longevity in China and so they would have been a special animal symbol to a Daoist monk who was cultivating himself to live longer in order that he could achieve immortality. Dayan are also symbols of unity as they always fly together as a flock.

Wild Goose Qigong (also called Dayan Qigong) began to be developed based upon the movements that the monks observed in these beautiful birds. They also combined the skill with their knowledge of Chinese medicine theory which included knowledge about the channels and acupoints in the body.  Wild Goose Qigong is the foundation form of this Qigong system but many other forms followed until eventually there were at least 72 forms and methods. Daoism uses a lot of numbers and each number has a special meaning and connection. Some relate to the Yijing (Book of Changes), some to the stars and constellations in the sky and some to the Bagua. There is more information on this in Michael Tse’s Wild Goose Qigong books.

Not all of the Kunlun Dayan Qigong forms are long forms like the Wild Goose Qigong. Some are shorter forms, like Eight Pulling Waist Gong or Seven Star Opening Gong. Some of the skills are different meditations and some are healing skills. In addition, Master Tse has continued to develop other Qigong forms, such as Balancing Gong and Healthy Living Gong, based upon the principles of the Kunlun Dayan System.

 

Daoist Connection

At the time of the Eastern and Western Jin Dynasty (265-420 A.D.) Daoism was also developing. Daoism advocates leading a simple life in harmony with nature. This was also a time of much artistic development, particularly writing, calligraphy and painting. However, it was also a tumultuous time with many wars between countries. With so much of China in upheaval, there came a growing popularity in things of a spiritual nature.

Many Daoist masters went into the mountains to live and develop themselves without the distractions of politics and strife. Some of them joined together and built their own Daoist temples to help them further their studies on how to become one with nature and also develop their skill and pass it down to the next generations. Living in harmony with nature also meant your own internal body should be in balance. Daoists viewed the body as a complete universe in itself and the there is a diagram which shows this.

 

Buddhist Connection

During the Jin Dynasty, there lived a very famous Buddhist monk called Si Dao An. He was responsible for the translation of many Buddhist texts from their original Sanskrit. He travelled to many different places giving lectures, sharing Buddhist knowledge and building temples. Many thousands of temples were built in China during this time.

Whilst Daoism aims for longevity and balance with nature, Buddhism aims for non-attachment and enlightenment. When we practise Wild Goose Qigong, we first need to relax and empty our minds. When we can empty our minds, then we do not need to think about Qi or where it goes and what it does. Everything happens naturally. This emptiness is also one of the goals of Chan Buddhism because when we can let go of our emotional attachments and worries, then wisdom can then develop.  Si Dao An is considered the spiritual founder of Wild Goose Qigong which is related to the Amitabha school of Buddhism.

 

So after not really doing this system for a couple years, I've been getting back into it the last couple months. The energy the meditations, energy exercises, yoga, etc  are really powerful. Like rushing electric currents flowing and vibrating through you. In you and through you. Plus it seems to for me at least, connect or attach the energy to the will and consciousness at the same time.

I showed the practice and teachings to some people who did things like other meditation systems and pranic arhatic healers and they said it had many similarities in principle and practice to what they did, but were taken aback at some things, they didn't think any teachers had revealed those things publically and didn't know that anyone outside of their practices knew some of these things. So a few people from other paths who practiced for many years or decades have told me Jon Peniel has revealed some things other teachers only teach privately.

Looking back, now that I'm "older, wiser, and know better" lol, even I'm realizing how crazy and out there this system sounds, even to me it's hard to believe, and I practice it, but there's really something special here.

This was eye opening, to think that extraterrestrials could have already made contact with humans 

On 11/07/2020 at 9:34 AM, zerostao said:

I dont know who the hell either and I doubt it will be overturned.

Every site I visit related to cannabis uses "strains"

Seems ironic. Irony always finds a way.

This would be among the sweetest ironies ever, if, cannabis sativa proves effective against covid19.

Probably Marc Emery, or someone connected to him, he was basically responsible for North American bud overtaking Dutch bud as the highest quality on the planet and created many new strains.