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Christ is King 

In Drikung kagyu  there is the practice of love, compassion, and bodhichitta, as a foundation for Mahamudra practice 

 

https://www.scribd.com/doc/295315009/Bodhicitta-Teachings-by-Lord-Jigten-Sumgon

 

Here’s a good one, that can be used as a foundation by almost anyone 

http://atlantismeditation.blogspot.com/2009/12/contemplation-visualizationof-unselfish.html?m=1

Perhaps Manjushri OM WA GHI SHWA RI MUM

 

Or perhaps Achi Chokyi Drolma OM MAMA TSAKRA SOHA, YAR DU, SARWA DU, RADZA RADZA DU, MAMA DU, HUNG PHAT SOHA

Things aren’t always as they seem. Many, many guys will exaggerate and lie about their body count. I have no tolerance for that since it will lead other guys astray, they’ll end up taking advice from those liars that doesn’t work and waste their time when they could havee been practicing things that do work and lead to real skills.

 

I’ve heard many times that the average lifetime partner count in the western world is roughly 7. A guy with 50, or 100, or more is actually very rare. Either the guy is a celebrity, or he has made pursuing women a major part of his lifestyle, sacrificing other areas of his life to do it. A guy with a normal life, normal social circle, a job, responsibilities etc. there’s no way his body count is even close to a hundred. 
 

Add on top of that a lot of guys are raised to be weaker and less masculine than they used to be. If we look at average loss of virginity age rates nowadays it’s at like pre sexual revolution levels of stunted development, but for the opposite reason than it was back then.

 

I think it is probably true that there are fewer naturals nowadays than back in the 80s and 90s. Think about Marty Mcfly in Back to the Future. He was far, far more socially developed as a man than his father George mcfly was. Back to the future really illustrates how much more developed men were in the 80s than the 50s. This was surely due to the oppressive  religious culture and male dominance in society in the 50s. 1989 was truly the pinnacle of social development. If we look nowadays men are falling back to 1950s levels of stunted development, but now instead of being due to an overly male dominated culture it’s due to feminism and female dominated culture. Both male dominated and female dominated cultures are very bad, the 1980s were the perfect balance and produced the most naturally sexually confident men.

1 hour ago, Thrice Daily said:

I personally understand that Monogamy is a good idea in terms of keeping a society safe and together. Wtf right, but yeah when you disseminate it, it is right… 

Makes things more predictable (less fighting, and especially in the past less jealousy fuelled murder etc… imagine how it used to be, Jesus).

 

I feel as an idealist an optimist and just someone who likes sex with different people of different colours shapes and sizes etc it’s sad to be cut off from the ability to have multiple partners. 
 

Modern life can offer this right. But for society there are upsides and downsides. ( lots of downsides plain to see, breakdown of family, crime rates etc, the stats are all there)
 

but like with everything there is a trade off. 
 

The most important advice I could give you is, if you want to explore casual sex and genuinely work off your own sense of what it’s all about, move to a place that is open to such viewpoints. Don’t live in an overly religious community, it probably won’t bode well. (Pathological guilt and shame is never healthy, I guess it’s up to you would you do with that, some people and ideologies are going to heal you, some are gonna hurt you, depending on perspective and goals, wild isn’t it)
 

I think a hell of a lot of this comes down to environment (inner and outer). It’s a case of nurture over nature… 

 

Love Man 👨 

This is a good point. Society isn't actually designed for every guy to be the man, to be the shit. It's not necessarily in society's interest that every guy can be Gene Simmons or Wilt Chamberlain. Society probably needs lower status men to function, or monogamous relationships, in order to function. Everyone can't be Alphas.

 

So society will never encourage you to be the real naturally seductive man you were meant to be. If you try to step into that level of being, society will probably try to socially beat you down, shame you, etc. Cuz it's not in it's interest that every guy is fully actualized in his sexuality and power.

 

That's why in school they try to influence and suppress your expression, it's not all about being the shit, not caring what anyone thinks, and being as uninhibited and unapologetic in your desires as you can be. Think about what happens when you like a girl, it's like "shame shame I know your name, you and your crush sitting in a tree k-I-s-s-I-n-g" etc.

 

Society actively suppresses your true self and true nature.  If we look at other cultures it's even worse, like say guys from India or the middle east come to a more natural or free culture and they're often at a huge disadvantage. If you've never been with anyone at say 21 you're gonna be at a huge disadvantage against males who were sexually active at say 15. Then those guys will descend into mate guarding type behaviors, will try to shame girls into being artificially loyal to them, and inevitably get cheated on if they do manage to get a partner. 

On 2020-02-01 at 7:58 AM, zero said:

I'd like to discuss the topic of casual sex and get to the absolute truth of it. Is this type of sexual behavior truly right for the soul. Lusting and wanting to have sex solely for the fleeting physical sensation with no regard for having any virtue around that when sharing your body, or even having the self control to stop yourself from doing it, isn't this type of sexual behavior selfish in essence as well as self degrading? To reduce an act of dispersing your life force to something casual..... Where you are creating multiple links energetically/spiritually to different people as well, so physically it may feel pleasurable but at what cost. Wouldn't that drain you and take away from your essence? We all know sex is pleasurable, but would you really feel good after? Knowing you are operating primarily in the motive of lust rather than cultivating a true bond where you value yourself for that and therefore reserve that Part of you for the sake of being virtuous.

I dunno I've been with about 160 women, usually felt very refreshed and alive after. 

 

But casual doesn't have to mean meaningless or mean there's no mental or emotional connection. You still will often need to build a connection for sex to happen.

 

I look much younger than my real age most people think about 15 years younger then I am.

 

In the words of the immortal Al Bundy, it gets better each time, as long as it's never with the same woman 😂

Your best bet is probably reading the Tibetan book of the dead, called the Bardo Thodal or Liberation through Hearing in the intermediate state, aloud to them

Been doing Chakrasamvara practice which contains some Tummo, it’s really cool, it generates lots of energy in your body. So if you want to learn something keep at it, keep learning and keep practicing 💪

You gotta give this guy credit.  Agree or not, I challenge you to find a more clear and specific psychic or prophetic prediction 

 

Start watching at the 8:00 mark, and tell me he didn't nail it, on a major historic event too

 

Well, I went out and found Drikung Kagyu teachers in person, and have been doing lots of practice including mahamudra, dzogchen, vajrayogini, and chod. I dont think the drikung kagyu teachings are diluted, apparently they're teaching things openly they would have never taught publically before. I do find Dr. Nida to be very interesting, though I haven't studied with him or practiced his teachings.

On 2023-07-14 at 3:39 AM, iinatti said:

 

 

 

I guess this would would be in contrast to training with mindfulness to achieve non-fixation or non-attachment to the form, with perhaps either approach leading to the same place.

 

 
Not sure there’s really any contrast. I’m thinking there’s more to non attachment than just non attachment in a certain sense. From an absolute truth perspective form doesn’t exist. It’s an illusion, so everything dissolves to emptiness. It never even existed anywhere but in your mind in the first place. There’s just emptiness, the present, a pure clarity, and the yiddam qualities arising and dissolving. Everything else just falls by the wayside, and never happened.

39 minutes ago, kakapo said:

 

I think really videos will only do so much.

 

You need in person, one on one demonstrations under controlled conditions. 

You do make a legitimate point. As my argument went before though, what if energetic abilities go beyond just simple things like say taking your friends pain or tightness away by putting your hands on them, or making people feel a buzz in their hands or whatever mundane thing you might do… What if human potential goes beyond that level, however it may not be reproducible on command or could be very circumstance dependent? Or perhaps the concept of auspiciousness could be involved. That is hard to completely control and contain within a scientific experiment.

 

Like you don’t wanna be one of those people who are like “oh yeah my systems got all that siddhi stuff too!”

What do you mean?

9 hours ago, Neirong said:

All of these people are training their ethereal body. The practices are not exclusive to any particular tradition and take years to develop, similar to bodybuilding in a gym.

 

Bodies go like this.

 

Physical > Ethereal > Astral > Emotional Mental (Animal Mental) > Thoughts Body (Human Mental) > Spiritual Body (Mage Mental) > Causal Body (God Mental)
This can also be linked to seven chakras.

 

Siddhis are not "mystical" or "paranormal." Some people have trained physical bodies, and those who have exceptional genetics can do things most other living humans cannot. These skills or abilities are called "siddhis." The only problem, however, is that the further you go from the physical plane to a spiritual plane, the less it is possible to record or demonstrate.

 

To begin with, most people are only able to see a physical layer of reality and do not perceive directly in astral and mental fields.
It often becomes an internet circle-jerking activity where "practitioners" of a certain group believe that only "bodybuilding" is real, while meditation or astral projection is not.

 

That said, any person who works on himself in life and develops abilities and skills on any level instead of wasting time arguing online is doing a good thing for himself. There are clear benefits in each level development.

 

Okay Madame Blavasky. You like pontificating and you like platitudes, but what are you bringing to demonstrate? I don't get it?

 

At least others here brought something to put up. They were willing to post videos and put their balls on the table so to speak.

 

Going online for online discussion, but then acting like you're above it all and wouldn't waste your time with it when you could be doing productive things and bettering yourself in real life is  such a played out trope as well.

5 hours ago, kakapo said:

 

 

Yeah that's why I didn't discuss it, just used as an example of the kind of stuff that doesn't really fly here or in 2024.

4 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Probably a similar technique. Bagus the Leaf Man does Hindu practices so it doesn’t seem like something that’s just found in one religion. 
 

The interesting thing is how the emission of qi is different. With Sheikh Muhammad it comes out of his fingers on command, but with Master Jiang Feng and Master Zhou they guide the qi up from their lower dantian and out through the arm to the hands. 

 

So we got a dude tickling people, some old people over reacting for a camera, some magic tricks, and the same old lame martial arts demonstrations like using leverage tricks to break a brick or stone. It's just like, people aren't gonna go for that anymore, they never really did. What's the point of party tricks and magician stuff? You can just hear the thoughts already of "same old shit! same old shit!"

 

Like oh my heart...my heart!

 

Hallelujah! Hallejuhah!

 

Also any energy that can have any tangible effect would have to be instantaneous, whether from the dantien or whatever path. Cuz it would have to be coordinated with mind, intention, the Yi. At Yi level the energy is instantaneous whether for martial arts or otherwise. 

From what I understand in essence there is no difference. They are the same thing ultimately. Nothing anyone said about one couldn't also be said about the other.

 

Some people have called dzogchen the padmasambhava lineage, and mahamudra the tiliopa lineage.

 

There are certain specific practices that can be unique to certain school I believe.  Like 5 part mahamudra for example. You can also blend different aspects of your experience in meditation together, love and compassion, wisdom, emptiness, awareness etc.

 

Also you can view meditation in stages, like starting with resting mind and mindfulness, you can have mindful body practice, mindful emotion, mindful consciousness, mindful phenomena, then shamata, vipassana, and fiinally mahanudra/dzogchen

 

At the end they're both about you seeing your true real nature and true nature of reality. The empty and luminous nature, that there is no self, the mind seeing itself, and resting in the natural state of Rigpa, etc and profound deep stuff  like that that's hard to grasp or talk about in words and all that. 

For so many years, you see so many people just getting enamored with the latest spiritual trends, whatever is cool online, chasing the latest shiny object, getting sucked into lame or weird groups online or in real life, and it's just all so cringe. All the amateur hour bs out there is just ugh!

 

People talk big about Siddhis, spiritual power, energy, shakti this and reiki that. Well time to up your frickin' game people. Let's see it, step up to the plate. This is the new age of the internet. YouTube and internet is almost universal now.

 

Apparently in certain sports because tournament footage is being put up on YouTube instanty all the time, new strategies are developing faster and the sport is developing rapidly

 

So come on, don't sing it bring it. What are some Miracle powers or Siddhi's that are documented? Are there any? Who do you follow and what do they really have when it comes time to put up or shut up?

 

So who's a faker and magician? And who has legit Siddhis? No crap or anything that any trained magician could easily replicate. This is the 21st century, every 5 year old knows magicians aren't real, firewalking isnt a siddhi, and anyone can lay on a bed of nails.

 

I know I've heard scientists have studied Tibetan tummo under scientifically controlled conditions and it was proved to be real. That's probably why a lot of people respect and are interested in Tibetan buddhism.

 

But that doesn't necessarily mean we should absolutely only consider powers or abilities that are shown under absolute strict scientific conditions. That would be assuming all spiritual powers are repeatable at will, but what if they are dependent on circumstances or are extremely rare events not easily reproducible at will?

 

Many spiritual groups report a Guru predicting the day of their death and dying with their disciples as well. Most people will not consider that proof of spiritual power though.

 

Especially since religous and spiritual people talk willy nilly about things way crazier than tummo, like flying, appearing in multiple places at a time, turning a single meal into a feast, and raising the dead.

 

So let's see it. Let's see the proof your spirituality isn't all just in your head or a group delusion?

 

The first example I think of is Grandmaster, a real grandmaster, not a trendy internet Johnny come lately fad, but Grandmaster Yang Mei Jun,  the 27th inheritor of the Daoist and Buddhist Dayan Gong lineage. A man had been in a motorcycle accident and been in a coma for many weeks. The doctors at the hospital had determined the man to be brain dead and were going to move him to the morgue. As a last ditch effort Yang Mei Jun came to the hospital to treat him. During the treatment he was revived.

 

I don't know if there is video of the event, but there is photo documentation of the treatment here

 

 

Next we have a really crazy one. The Earthly spiritual Father, Father Yod, Father Yahowha, on video reviving a dead baby. Like ok, like there weren't scientists  monitoring it with instruments in a lab, but it's on video. I know an umbilical cord wrapped around a babies neck is a real thing that happens, and a real danger of not giving birth in a hospital. That baby really does look dead to me in the video. Perhaps I should add it's a pretty graphic scene if you're squeamish, but it's also black and white so not that bad. So read it and weep, can your teacher beat The Father? It's insane, that baby looks dead as a doorknob to me, then comes right to life,  and the dude's still alive and a healthy adult to this day!

 

Timestamp of the footage is at 42:30

 

 

I'm a bit hesitant but I'm going to include this. Some will probably scoff and laugh, call it the Buddhist stigmata. Like ok obviously stigmata is stupid, I remember hearing about that as a kid and just laughing that people would think it's not a hoax. But Phowa is a little bit different, it's commonly just accepted and repeatable by anyone with enough devotion, and it's based on actual meditation practice. Since ancient times people have long put kush grass on the hole that opened on their heads to demonstrate successfully launching their consciousness to a pure buddha realm. Stigmata seems much more like just a hoax perpetrated by lone hucksters or specific organizations with an agenda to trick people 

 

So time to put up or shut up. Talk is cheap punk. Siddhis talk and bs walks. Pics or it didn't happen. Time for the fads and the bs to fade away.

Yeah dude it’s not something you can learn online 

I mean an ultimate level that a human being can practice at

Of course 

Oh yeah, you could argue the ultimate level is just complete realization of the mind's oneness with the universal energy. 

 

Attaining the "prana mind" so to speak.

This was mostly a misunderstanding. I made a statement about the author of an article someone linked to earlier in the thread, and cloud thought I was talking about him.