Apech

10 hours ago, Chang dao ling said:

Lord Vishnu ( one of the Trinity in the Hinduism). My concentration is good in Visulization meditation 

I would suggest that you’re ire what you are doing and your reasons for doing it.  In the meantime stick to following the breath or similar.

9 minutes ago, blue eyed snake said:

 

she's still young, lets forgive her

I'm young ... aren't I? 

10 minutes ago, Maddie said:

 

Well aren't you Mr observant? LOL 🤣. The reason that's on my table is because that's a stack of books I'm going to bring to the half Price bookstore to trade in. Although it was really helpful at the very beginning of my exploration into Buddhism.

oh cope, cope, cope!!!!

15 minutes ago, Maddie said:

I guess since I've already owned being an attention whore there's really nothing holding me back is there? 🤭😂🫣

Yeah but Buddhism for Dummies?

4 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

Whew...this has been quite the ride.  I often rethink my posts after I´ve written them and decided to let a few of my latest entries go.  What came over me?  This thread was winding down nicely and it seemed everyone had settled into a cozy and nearly miraculous peace.  And then for some reason I decided to kick up some dirt -- go figure.  Anyway, thanks to all who have contributed here and especially to Maddie.  If the point of this thread was to make people think, then I count it a rousing success.

Brother Luke trolls the thread.

2 hours ago, blue eyed snake said:

 

yeah but ...

 

ehm, when we were young people were neatly classified in male and female ( as god ordained )

 

Babies have no idea about male and female, 3 year olds in general have observed this classification. Brothers, fathers and boys are male, sisters, moms and girls are classed as female. But from the time they are babies they are approached according to their sexe. That is outcome of research but I've observed that rearing my son.

 

I got clothing from a sister who had a girl about a year older then my boy. so as a baby he had a nice warm pink babysuit. "oooh, what a lovely little girl, and your momma dressed you warmly to protect you from the cold, what a sweet girl you are"

Next week, same bakery, blue jacket and babyjeans, " now you're a sturdy little boy, you can handle the cold eh. You make your momma proud. See those different messages? shaping the expectations our society has from boys and girls, those expectations partly  shape our personalities. I found it also interesting that (perceived) babygirls got higher voices cooing over them then babyboys

 

so there's the biological aspect plus the societal aspects that tries to mold us into gender-specific behavior and identification.

 

But also, as a kid I was thus taught there are 2 categories, boy or girl. Nothing else to choose from. Well i was very sure I was not a girl so I had to be a boy. It was not that I wanted a dick  @Apech,  but i had classified myself as a boy "because i was not a girl" so there was no other choice. I expected to grow a dick as it was needed to fulfill the role of "boy"  just as my big sister in those days was growing boobs.

 

During my younger years I have so often wondered what was wrong with me, after a time I sort of decided I was a lesbian, but that was not right to as there were also guys I liked to share my bed with, so then I was biseksual. But why did I lean to be a man...et cetera.  For young people it is important to be clear about who they are, where they belong and what their place in a group is.

How they identify as it is currently called.

 

But the dichotomy male - female is not true, it is manmade, as there are people who are neither, That's both the intersex people and the trans/nonbinary people. Now that may not be a large group, but many people belong to it.

 

My life would have been a lot easier when i had been aware there exists a third category for those that do not fit in the large dichotomy. The way I lean to when doing nothing ( Thanks @surrogate corpse ) is mostly male, but I can lean female too. The current generation would probably label me nonbinary, for me, after all those decades, I am human and that's okay.

 

 

I was being crass @blue eyed snake so sorry.

On 18/04/2024 at 6:55 PM, dwai said:

Kshanikam - Momentary

Sarvam - Everything

 

So the Buddhists say - "Everything is momentary" (impermanence)

 

Khalu - Verify

idam - This 

Brahma - Brahman (the ground of being)

 

Advaitins say - "Everything is verily Brahman"  (Permanence)

 

The two seem mutually exclusive. But are they? Everything is certainly momentary/temporary, but does that mean Brahman is also fleeting and temporary? This can be understood by the statement, "Samsara (everything) is Nirvana (liberation), and Nirvana (liberation) is Samsara (everything)."

 

The Advaitins say that "everything" is perceived as separate, ephemeral objects because the knowledge of Brahman (Pure Consciousness) is not realized. When the realization occurs that all things appear and disappear in Brahman alone, then the confusion is dispelled once and for all. 

 

Brahman is not a thing - would be my answer.

14 hours ago, S:C said:

Are you not? 
 

Luminous blob? I am confused. 

 

There used to be someone on here called Cat and I did not wish to usurp the title.

1 hour ago, S:C said:

 

here you go, cat 

 

https://www.taoistic.com/taoteching-laotzu/taoteching-38.htm

 

Am I cat now?

3 hours ago, S:C said:

How can there be any deviance from the principle (the dao part) anyhow?

,

”when good and bad arise the Dao is destroyed”

quote from I would have to look it up.

3 hours ago, S:C said:

First questions first: Are the fruits on the cards of the high priestess pomegranates?

Yes

49 minutes ago, Taoist Texts said:

Yes only a Xian can teach Xian-hood. Either there is a hurdle or there is larping. To each his own, its a free country

There once was a teacher of tennis

Who charged the fools pretty pennies

Never won Wimbledon

Nor a racket he owned

Since he was  such a larping genius

 

Thanks for the story. The principle of magic is synchronicity which in turns works like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)

meaning we must not know if it us who do the magic or things just happen on their own. If the magician is sure it is him then he deludes himself.

first physical then spiritual

the exact mechanism is secret, but the general answer is : by going back to the Immortal Source

If you are immortal could you promise never to rhyme Wimbledon and owned again…ever?

2 hours ago, Chang dao ling said:

While i am daydreaming i am doing violence on others in daydreaming 

why are you doing visualization and what are you imaging?

7 hours ago, Chang dao ling said:

Hi, i am practicing visualization meditation i am getting headache and I want to daydream. Yesterday i started to do mental violence in daydreaming why Is this happening?

Probably you are forcing it too much - but I’m not sure what you mean by mental violence.

12 hours ago, Nungali said:

No no .... its okay now , I promise  . You where right  .... no one is going to anything nasty to you or judge you for being  suspect about a perceived  defensive over-reaction  ...... come on  ..... come on puss   ....  its safe now  ....

 

You can trust me   .....

 

 

 

Got him ! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They say when they first caught me I was wild …but it’s not true … I was completely livid!

22 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

Its okay .... you can down from the top of the wardrobe now  .

yeah right I’ve heard that one before …

On 4/20/2024 at 9:13 PM, blue eyed snake said:

i wonder about Boaz and Jachin, I mean, I know about the  story of the temple pillars, the easy to find stuff.

 

But sometimes I wonder about it, what do these symbolize, is there any relation with all the energetic stuff that is surrounding the fleshbody?

 

not looking for "truth" but for some insights and associations from better educated bums then me.

 

Maybe @Nungali  has something for me

The explanation I was given years ago - and dimly remembered was this.  Justice and Mercy.  There are two conditions one in which energy is limited and in short supply.  In this case everything is geared to assessing what is absolutely necessary to complete the task.  An assessment - an analysis of the situation which judges harshly exactly what is required and what is to be rejected.  How much energy and was resources, tools and such are needed to do the job.  This is Justice.  It Just Is.  So to speak.

The other condition is where energy is abundant - it overflows - is radiant - in this condition we imagine, dream, create and most importantly allow.  We are compassionate and lenient.  Mercy - which is not strained but dropeth like a gentle rain ... and so on.  This is sun-like.

The quality of mercy is not strained;
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest;
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes:
'T is mightiest in the mightiest; it becomes
The throned monarch better than his crown:
His sceptre shows the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty,
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;
But mercy is above this sceptred sway;
It is enthronèd in the hearts of kings,
It is an attribute to God himself;
And earthly power doth then show likest God's
When mercy seasons justice. Therefore, Jew,
Though justice be thy plea, consider this,
That, in the course of justice, none of us
Should see salvation: we do pray for mercy;
And that same prayer doth teach us all to render
The deeds of mercy. I have spoke thus much
To mitigate the justice of thy plea;
Which if thou follow, this strict court of Venice
Must needs give sentence 'gainst the merchant there.

9 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

 

Apech can come back now .      

I’m in hiding and can’t be reached.

2 hours ago, Taoist Texts said:

of course you did , and you were. Thank you very much. Who can forget the curious case of the travelling liver? Not me.

or this. Or the senior citizen who on this forum claimed to deflect a hurricane with magic. If an eyewitness says it happened then it happened. No argument there, i am totally convinced that it did happen for you good folk. Unfortuntely, it did not not happen in my reality which is my loss;)

 

Going back to the OP, what WLP and Brine purport to teach is immortality (neidan in western parlance) . Its a weird way to make a living but hey, not the weirdest one. Now when a teacher teaches immortality, is either he is  an immortal already - then he knows what he teaches. Or he is not immortal yet - then he is  a fraud. And being immortal or not starts from having a little thing called neidan, or the elixir. So per the OP whoever is interested in Brine  just gotta ask him: "Sifu with all due respect, you teach neidan, so....do you have the neidan? " Then watch the shuffle dance begin.

The thing is how do you prove that you are immortal …until you die and then you’re not - if you see what I mean.

3 hours ago, Taomeow said:

Multiplication is division.  

 

If the mind could truly understand this koan of cellular biology, everybody would become instantly enlightened.  

meiosis or mitosis?

1 minute ago, Maddie said:

 

This type of gaslighting is stereotypical troll behavior. 

I think you need to think this through a bit more.  In any case I'm not going to post anymore in this thread so just ignore me if you want.  Best wishes to you and all.

7 minutes ago, Maddie said:

 

In case anyone is wondering why I am claiming that Salvijus is a troll, I do so based on multiple statements of which this is just one example of many.

 

1. First he has implied that transgenderism is something that needs to be justified. Being trans is an existence. As soon as someone challenges the validity of someone's existence there is a problem there. 

 

2. Second he implied that "trans philosophy" (what ever that means) is not valid. First of all it is not a philosophy, again it is an existence. Secondly it is valid and to challenge that it is, is one of many reasons I believe him to be a troll. 

 

I'm all for answering legitimate questions, but trolls do not ask legitimate questions. They make statements disguised as questions to undermine the person they are trolling's position or point.   

Just holding opinions or views doesn't make you a troll.  To be a troll you have to present those arguments with a deliberate intent to cause a certain reaction or to mess with the person they are addressing.  So if he actually thinks the ideas he expressed he is not a troll, he might be wrong and confused - in which case a q&a like this would be the very place to put him right.  

58 minutes ago, snowymountains said:

 

Can't be yours due to enlightenment vanquishing it 😁

At last the truth.

53 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

I see... A bit sad. But I take from your responses that you guys would rather stay on bad terms.  Okay. If you so desire have it your way. 

 

I'm leaving this. Tcare

I'm disappointed too.  Shame as I said before.  Maybe you are a troll - I don't know - because I avoid psychoanalysing posters on here that I don't know very well.  But even if you are you can ask questions and be answered.  Why not?

6 minutes ago, snowymountains said:

 

It's the ego ! 😁

Whose? Yours?