@Jdb1d learning to sift through posts is also an important skill here.

13 hours ago, Bindi said:

“This is the main secret of all traditions and practices: Tao is the balance of Yin and Yang.” 

 

Thus spake the Russians

https://ancientdao.net/foundation/ancient-method/

A site with potential, if the person/s running it ever care to flesh out the texts a bit.

That really doesn't narrow it down.

This place is full of persons with a diversity of practices. 

Just jump in if you find a subject that is close to your interest.

Not in this thread, you must learn to stay on subject 😁

Yes, but licking a Bufo Alvarius/Incilius Alvarius isn't really an improvement to eating cikadas, except for the genital thing. 

When did that stop anyone from getting high? 

An O. A. D. doesn't require genitals anyway 😁

So now people will eat cikadas to trip? 

1 hour ago, dwai said:

Don’t perpetuate misinformation please! Lingam literally means symbol, and has nothing to do with the male reproductive organ (or any metaphysical version thereof). 
 

@dawn90

Technically, I didn't. 

If someone checked the term out (!), one would find, just as you wrote, that the phallos-lingam connection is seen as a misunderstanding. 

It is fairly certain that this is the origin of the above. 

But why write that, when dawn90 could find that out for him/herself? 

12 hours ago, dawn90 said:

 

Is spiritual dick a thing

As a symbol for power, absolutely. 

Check out lingam. 

6 hours ago, freeform said:

 

Even with shamanism - all that you have access to is the lower realms and the minor spirit realms. 

/... ... /

 

The various beings, messages, presences one experiences are not divine or even particularly useful… usually they’re just aspects of mind that take on a representative identity… sometimes they’re representations of beings from the lower realms… or the minor spirit realms. All the elves, insect-like beings, snake like beings, plant spirits etc - that’s what these are. 

There are other ways than drugs to experience these realms. 

A proper position and a proper beat will get you there, with more control of the experience. 

48 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

 

  How could Penetrating Wisdom and Humorous Good Fellowship be at odds?  

The cleansocked wanderer sneaked around at the border between light and darkness, listning to the chatting around the fire. 

Less is more, he heard, especially when it comes to penetrating wisdom. This must truly be nei dan discussed, he thought, because here the common belief is reversed. 

To conceal himself, not having a string, he put a sock (clean) on it, just like a red hot chili pepper. 

15 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

 

Because I been practising iron ball Quigong   ..... you start small , then work your way up ;

 

 

 

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Not too small to hang on to? 

2 hours ago, -_sometimes said:

Also, it's really really hard for me to maintain attention on multiple parts of the body at once, I can't quite figure out how to place attention across multiple areas at once, so I end up just skipping through attention of the different areas unable to hold attention of the entire thing together. Does anyone have any tips in this respect? 

It's one area, only big. 

Awareness will expand with time. 

Nah. 

But we all have hang-ups. 

9 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

It all started when she drifted out of her body one night and could look down in the room and see it . It scared her so she told her parents . Then it kept happening , she did a  few trips around the house , then she started to feel like she was 'slipping out' while awake and walking around kept telling her parents so it was off to the psychiatrist .    My  work partner  gave me a curious look  and  asked her '  Have you ever heard of astral projection ?'  She was totally ignorant on  such matters .

 

I spend a serious amount of time teaching patients about their experiences, tracing them back from the abnormal and uncontrollable to where they are functional. Often, that removes the fear and stigma of it, and enables the patient to actually work through it.

Working through doesn't always mean talking about old situations, more commonly, we train the mind (or the brain, whatever floats your boat) to handle and process painful stimuli, so that the person have a reasonable chance of handling normal life. 

@Chainikas So, if I had a point, that would be that you started on meds because you had symptoms severe enough to be referred to a psychiatrists and if I understood right, not as an outpatient?

So, even if I am sorry for your experience, and for the fact that psychiatric care still tend to bulldoze patients, there is a possibility that the symtoms/problems that you still are suffering from is related as much to the reason you contacted the health care system in the first place, as much as the negative impact of the treatment. 

For a healing, it is important to see this, so you can focus on the root cause and direct your efforts on that. 

Most of the critique against psychiatric medication here is correct. Most have side effects, some antidepressants have a period in the beginning where one gets worse including suicidal, and the heavier meds cut away both emotions and some cognitive function. And a bunch of them have the efficiency at the level of placebo. 

On the other hand, every time a person have a manic or psychotic episode, that person loose a chunk of cognitive function. If unattended to, every such episode increases the risk of suicide. And even before the rise of psychiatry, people with severe mental health problems were locked up or banished from their social group, at least in the western historical context. 

Non-pharmacological treatments demands more resources, both financial from society and motivational and cognitive from the patient. So, there is a problem on that side as well, even before discussing if the treat

treatment offered is relevant to the problem at hand. 

There are many psychotherapies offered, but: Ever heard of clinical detoriation and retraumatization? 

Searching help in the spiritual community? People actually trigger mental health issues in meditative and energy based practices. 

A few teachers claim to know how to fix that, but there are not enough qualified teachers willing to engage in patients with mental health issues, so obviously that is not an available solution at present. 

Really messed up, the whole business... 

12 hours ago, Chainikas said:

Psychiatric medications almost killed me. They destroyed my mental and physical health, made me very suicidal for long period. 

Why did you start taking them? 

33 minutes ago, Lairg said:

 

I am not sure how to do that with pharmaceutical products. 

Just pay the Man 😁

3 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

When I look back at such events, with the woman sitting on top, it may have been that the cosmic lines anchored in her back at my orgasm.

 

Perhaps geometry is important

Sacred geometry, in this case the pyramid shape, which lifts the energetic transformation chamber slightly above you. 

I'm sure someone could post a non x-rated image of that. 

15 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

Yep , I posted a little 'paper' on it here years back . Its mostly 'atrophied' in the modern person, the indigenous have it developed more . 

I read once that it was connected to which one's basic reference frame is. 

People who orient better usually have the four directions as their basic reference, even indoors. 

People who orient worse usually orient with objects (a house, the shape of a table, some geographical object) as their reference. 

17 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

 

 

Pharmaceutical companies are motivated by profit rather than a do-gooder desire to alleviate suffering.  

And what motivates a do-gooder? 

Does a do-gooder's method always alleviate suffering? 

On 2022-02-09 at 6:25 PM, Asher Topaz said:

 

Someone said the buddhism achieves freedom from karma or enlightenment by making ones consciousness egoless while daoism seems to make ones consciousness so powerful that its karma cant pull it back to earth what they would call the yang shen.

So yes, for example nei dan works on energetics. 

And being powerful is better than being weak, if all other things are equal. 

The question is, what does one do with that energetics? 

Hoard it, like Smaug? 

Or transmute it, like a Xian? 

How does one reach the state described in DDJ ch 50?

When we place the weight on the front part of the foot, the body enters an activation mode, we prepare for action. 

You might experience this as a "rising" sensation on the back side of the body. 

52 minutes ago, EFreethought said:

 

So in other words: Is the ultimate answer to sit in meditation for a few hours every day for a few years?

No. 

In some traditions, you start with "Opening shit up" and laying the foundation, which can be standing and moving methods. 

The russian group was very adamant on that, and you will find that idea in other traditions as well.