old3bob

I'd say it's not really possible to get into current events without getting into politics, just like it's not really possible to get into "spiritual" practices without getting into spiritual principles. It is said that that one of greatest forms of progress for goodness is when great evil is transmuted. (including the aspect of, "if it doesn't kill you it will make you stronger") But the situations in many parts of this world are so way off balance that evil is having a perfect storm of pushing its ways. A perfect storm that results in suffering and murder per hellish beings that are penetrating the Earth realm with lots of success and also influencing human beings. (some scoff at such an idea, although such has been going on for ages) Thankfully evil has no lasting root and will not prevail but will destroy all it can as it fails. (as much of history shows)

the main (personal) delusion is in thinking that one's mind/intellect/concepts, texts, etc. can somehow fully understand and circumscribe or be that which they are not, although at best point towards. (which includes thinking that one's mind fully understands and is an expert on no-self) good luck, don't believe me find out for yourself...

only being attached to the idea/concept/thought of no self or Self is problematic....those are pointers not the meaning itself. Why would the Buddha say, "May all beings be happy" if there are no beings, no selves to be happy? Was the Buddha indulging in some sort of delusion?

"Interesting. "Tao gives birth to one, one gives birth to two, two give birth to three, three give birth to ten thousand things." This statement, physically and biologically absolutely accurate for our 3D world,* contains within itself "laws" that can't be broken by 3D beings, whether domesticated or wild, whether benign or malicious. " My interpretation is that all manifestations, dimensions, forms, beings, both subtle as with light and gross as with dense matter are ultimately under the law of and within the overall One. (which will also "return" at the end of its life aka the cosmic cycle) pretty much agree on the 2d,3d,4d superseding steps. And lots of the other stuff is also above my pay grade ;-). if the Great Tao/Mystery could be broken then we would be SOL, or would never have gotten to where that could even occur.

from a wider perspective I'd say the law of the One, the law of the Two, and the law of Three are not broken, but the law of the ten- thousand has so many variables who can keep track? So one might ask has a great sage evolved to the law of the One (or even further to the Great Tao)....as for the rest of us it is said we go far. (my analogies)

several, so what are you getting at?

animals can not break the laws they are under, mankind can and thus willingly join with or fall to the demonic instead of fulfilling their dharmas and stewardship...btw American native elders were also called Keepers for the way and the "Red road" * and to guard against the dark road. *spoken of by Black Elk

So ST it seems like you have been following me around and have given multiple mockery 'contexted' icons or down votes against my posts, which I take as WTF after ignoring several such instances? (btw, Taomeow has probably not been following those other posts besides the one on her string, since I'm pretty sure she busy elsewhere) It's strange to me that some folks here are hyper critical about political negativity or facts yet here you are being negative to me for some pleasure it apparently gives you? Anyway silence is not always golden to me.

ST wtf is your problem, grow up! Taomeow, which is why I noted may need further looking into, since I'm not an expert. (btw, medical people and prayer saved my wife from stage 4 cancer so I don't dismiss all medical people or prayers out of hand, although I have studied up some on anti-depressants and the crimes related to that are legion including many deaths! from what I've come across)

we are not avoiding many repeats in varied forms! ....

Some things that may be worth looking into further? "Generally, taking vitamin C with over-the-counter cold medicines is not likely to cause significant interactions, but it's still important to be aware of potential side effects and risks. Some medications might contain ingredients that could interact with vitamin C, and it's always best to consult with a doctor or pharmacist if you have concerns or are taking other medications. Here's a more detailed look at the potential interactions and considerations: No major interactions found: For some over-the-counter cold medicines like Tylenol Cold & Flu Severe and Robitussin Cough + Chest Congestion DM, no specific interactions with vitamin C were found, according to Drugs.com and Drugs.com. Potential for increased side effects: In some cases, vitamin C might increase the side effects of certain medications, particularly those containing aluminum, such as some antacids. It's also possible that vitamin C could interact with acetaminophen (Tylenol) in high doses, according to Mount Sinai. Individual variations: Not everyone will experience the same reactions or have the same sensitivities to vitamin C and cold medications. Individual factors like age, overall health, and other medications taken can influence how the body reacts. Caution with combination medications: Some over-the-counter cold and flu medicines contain multiple active ingredients, including those that might interact with vitamin C. Always read the labels carefully and consult with a healthcare professional if you have any concerns. Vitamin C benefits: While some studies suggest that vitamin C may help reduce the duration or severity of a cold, especially when taken early, the benefits are not always conclusive. Additionally, there's a possibility of side effects from high doses of vitamin C, including nausea, vomiting, and kidney stones. Always consult your doctor: If you have any health concerns or are unsure about taking vitamin C with your cold medication, it's always best to consult with a doctor or pharmacist. They can assess your specific situation and provide personalized advice."

I'd put it like this, "The Self is formless", soul body is body of light/Prana that returns to an ocean of light at some point.... which arises from the formless. "Prana springs from the Self", as found in the Upanishads (see Chandogya)

so go ahead and ban me for good, and have your censoring ways... Btw, I don't need lecture or threats.

"I know what is happening", do tell? (What does kumbaya mean in American slang: In recent years, however, kumbaya has become a term of derision, having been associated with what are considered naïve and unrealistic attitudes of peace, harmony, and cooperation.)

the Self sees death die, it is not caught up in the mountains of doubts, speculations or profound sounding mental gymnastics.