Pilgrim

On 7/5/2019 at 12:50 PM, Starjumper said:

So, anyway, I had kind of weaned myself off of forums, but came back to market the book.  For an old hermit, it's kind of fun and addicting, having the chance to raise hell on forums, so I got sucked into it again.  I think we are all too aware that I'm not forum material, and the high energy head meditations I was focussing on (mentioned in the martial arts thread) made me quite emotional and energized and made it worse.  All the mental work I had previously done with writing and editing contributed to it.

 

Now that I've been balancing out some of the head energy and feeling real calm and quiet I hardly feel like writing anything anywhere anymore, and I think maybe somebody upstairs is messin' with me again, as I wished.

Good job bro, I am happy you are getting through this just remember all the Chakras are how our awareness expresses.

 

Crown should purify the lower ones so the expression improves.

 

🤗

Sounds great but something still needs to generate the electric whether it’s internal combustion or from the grid.

 

Seems to me fuel cell to generate the electric is perfect and capacitors over batteries or in conjunction with until something better comes along is great.

 

As for batteries Lithium Ion and other older tech  is where I get the heartburn when there are other technologies like sodium ion that would be far better.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium-ion_battery

13 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

 

Leaving calm repose

Warmth arising in the heart

Smile upon my face

Smile upon my face

Sharing a moment of grace

Light up others face

I can vouch for how cool and refreshing this one is. Strawberry Supreme Pie. @Wu Ming Jen

 

 

https://www.bobevans.com/menu/bakery-and-desserts/strawberry-supreme-pie

 

Caution they have MO Pies than you can shake a stick at and they are all good 😁

Well said,  let it end.

1 hour ago, Spotless said:

I have a somewhat mild concern about the electromagnetic fields of an electric car - I remember a friend who passed away was an anethesiologist and he was very concerned about the magnetic fields. 

 

Any good articles on that? - I can often see fields around computers thought they do not bother me - but I like long drives and it is a mild but real concern that I would look deeply at prior to a purchase of an all electric - and some hybrids as well.

When I owned my Prius I could indeed feel the changes.

 

It was not harmful just a feeling of the fields moving. Washing over me like a wave. I would smile and think ah okay this is not quite right yet but we are doing out best. Glad to try to be a part of a solution.

 

 I really love the concept but feel without sufficient shielding and still blending with gas it is a fork on the wrong limb.

 

I hate the idea of precious earth metals being used wrongly in infantile battery technology that only serves nation states like China who have an abundance of said ore and while I am no genius to me it seems using them for this purpose is like a dumb ape looking at fire feeling fire and missing all that still can be from heat.

 

These precious ores have a far more valuable use, this I Know but can not say what,  but it is like on the tip of my tongue to remember.

 

Fuel cell is the way forward for now,  but profits are in the way,  so sad. Really sad. Emission equals water win, win. 

 

When lifting such a vehicle extreme caution must be undertaken electrocution is a very real thing. DC is far more dangerous than AC and 440 Volts of it will most certainly kill.

 

Electric has its place but not like this.

 

Clearly fuel cell technology is the way to go.

22 hours ago, Spotless said:

It is interesting - the Prius has one of the highest if not the highest owner satisfaction levels in automotive history.

 

For years it held the title of best resale value.

 

I’ve never heard of shoddy anything on a relatively recent Honda or Toyota.

 

I have a Honda Insight and enjoy it - and the fact that nothing ever seems to go wrong with it - our BMW dropped off a cliff in value and cost a small fortune in repairs each year - not one Mercedes or BMW is in the top 20 in reliability - all the top ten are Honda and Toyota and one or two Fords.

 

Everyone can have a lemon and certainly some cars/trucks don’t fit a life style.

 

I enjoy my Jeep Diesel - But the Insight is lowered and has stiff springs - love it in the turns (though it’s a pig).

 

I’ve been looking at a Prius - more concerned about the electromagnetic’s and definitely not workmanship. 

 

Wife is looking at Tesla - they are produced only 30 minutes away from us.

FYI I am a former Mercedes Technician.  I owned Toyota's for years some of my Favorites being the Celicas from the mid to late 80's they were excellent vehicles in every way.

 

As a former owner of a Prius I must caution you against the purchase. I purchased a 2008 Model Toyota corolla brand new it was a Lemon. Had to have Cams replaced in under 7,000 miles and that was only one of the many issues with that car.

 

The dealership and I went round and round on that and I was taking them to court over it but we settled on me receiving full compensation for the Lemon and taking the over $12,000.00 in Equity I had in the vehicle as a result of a substantial down payment and put it into the more expensive 2010 model Prius.

 

At first I was happy with the vehicle but after a few 4 hour trips across state I was convinced age was catching up with me or something because I was so tired after the trips.  When I traded it in it only had 16000 miles on it and was fully paid off. 

 

Within 16,000.00 miles not only did the batteries degrade quite a bit but the suspension and the strut towers were making all kinds of noises. Really not what I experienced with the earlier bullet proof Toyotas.

 

The ride is hard and you are low to the ground and feel every bump in the road. Just would hate to see you buy what I experienced. 

 

While I have no experience with Tesla if you can afford it, that would be the way I would go after my experiences with later model Toyotas and the prius in particular. 

 

If you service your own vehicles it is also a real bitch to change the oil  without a lift  you have to jack them up higher than what is safe crawl under them unfasten a belly pan made of plastic swing it out of the way and then the oil filter is like on a Mercedes just a shell with a wick and an O-Ring requires 10 FT Lbs of pressure only when tightening and take a specialty tool. If you overtighten expect a leak.

 

This is not the kind of vehicle I would trust to just any oil shop to change the oil either as it can appear to be turned off and suddenly the engine can start. Lowest rookie techs always get the oil changes, senior techs avoid them. Not a great combo.

 

Honda however as far as I know still is the premium Japanese Manufacturer and in my opinion having worked on many of them over the years in my Non Mercedes role they are very well engineered, true over the years they have made some major gaffs with timing belts and interference engines but I think most of that has passed by now.

😘

Blah, Blah Blah. 

 

Steve upset your Apple cart. You let him get your goat. 

 

Your problem now. Grow up and deal with it. 

Space

1 minute ago, C T said:

 

And you believe that by not naming the member your words are justified? 

Usually its not hard to know who ate all the choc brownies, even without the name being thrown around. 

 

I did reflect on it, and felt that sometimes we need to do whats necessary, with a clear intent, in order to cut karmic cords. 

It is clear you are of a different opinion I respect that. 

No CT that is exactly the point nor have I named the member or the tread because doing so will only further please the aggressive person who started the character assignation attack on another member and is trying to win a fight by doing so.

 

Think on that.

 

Furthermore the words are neither strong nor aggressive they are just and it is unjust for people to do as I have seen and discussed here.

 

If you think that behavior is acceptable then we are in disagreement. 

Yeah I don’t care for people starting threads just for the sake of attacking other members. 

 

There is a recent example of this distasteful cowardly behavior targeting another member.

 

Just because this site is soooo relaxed in it’s moderation does not in my opinion justify publicly made attacks in the form of entire threads dedicated to a member. 

 

What do I know though never read the TOS just common sense these are attacks and should not stand.

Good point! I would like to think I would. 

 

Reminds me of years ago there was a Japanese man who was WW2 era Japanese.

 

I could feel his presence across the room he was good and loving and gentle yet strong for as small as he was he should not have been able to lift outboard motors on a boat with one hand but not only did but held it in mid air while my brothers and I untangled the prop.

 

He would smile and laugh and say Oh Nay hurry this thing is heavy, and smile a big toothy grin as he held it effortlessly.

 

There was a certain quality to him that drew the eye and your heart would feel gentle and peaceful and loving around him.

 

It was a bit like an electric switch when out of his presence it turned off. So I always have thought this is what a truly spiritually advanced being is.

 

Nice fellow turned out he was the former head of some high department having to do with acupuncture in Japan. His name was Takatoshi Ida. He went by Ida. Which sounds like E da

 

He was a doctor and did indeed cure me with Acupuncture once from the flu of all things!!

 

After he was done he said now you go lay down, you going to get very tired. So I went home and no sooner did I climb into bed  I fell out into a deep sleep.

 

I woke 4 hours later completely fine.

 

He has been a good memory for the last 36 years.

Owned a Prius from 2009 till 2013. It was the most horrible shoddy built thing I ever bought brand new.

 

Driving it was tiring over long trips which negates fuel savings because I did not want to go anywhere in it.

 

In the years I owned it I watched the mileage drop from 54 miles per gallon to around 39 and 40.

 

Clearly the batteries were dropping out and the damned thing always made high pitches electrical noises and hummed.

 

440 volt of DC is allot to push.

 

Come 2013 always needed a truck to do stuff around the house traded it in for a full size truck.

 

In 2014 made a 6 to 700 mile road trip and realized I still felt fresh and just how horrible the Prius really was.

 

Never looked back, will never buy another electric or hybrid car.  

 

Then again a Prius ain’t no Tesla...

8 hours ago, rideforever said:

Hmm ... this forum ain't no different from ordinary life.

You get stalkers walkers and talkers.

And people in power usually employ their friends so they can keep it just the way they like it.

And then ?
What do you expect from humans !

They ain't Buddhas.

Humans ain’t Buddha’s? 🤔 

Intergalactic, planetary, planetary, intergalactic

On 6/30/2019 at 11:04 PM, Spotless said:

Nice article - what it does not yet address is the difficulty of really beginning or moving forward with spiritual pursuit late in life.

 

It illustrates well a myriad of things that can be seen in a life over time.

And the significant difficulties presented and skims very lightly over the difficulty (to no fault of the article otherwise it would be a book). 

 

The difficulties in later life are immense - though it is true many aspects such as money may no longer be a burden (or they may be big scary burdens).

 

But the “crystallized” mind is often so like a brick that religion, beliefs and habituations are like lead walls.

Ears cannot (and refuse to) hear and eyes cannot see.

 

In any case - a breath of fresh air to the readers - lots of interesting and well presented info.

You are too generous. But nice.

On 8/12/2017 at 9:53 AM, Starjumper said:

name calling for me is a type of high level creative expression which was trained into me early on when my four brothers and I used to sit around the dinner table having big arguments which included as much character assassination as possible.  Also when I was a young feller I was a biker (a loner not a groupie) and worked in the shipyards, so rough talking and slamming passive aggressive (your favorite insulting name goes here) with direct aggression is in my nature.  Screw the passive stuff ... although it flies well on most forums.

Lol, I feel ya Steve My Grandfather whom I love more than any man I have ever known was as rough and tough as you get.

 

Retired Army WW2 Vet who saw all kind of action in the Philippians. He had to Kill the Japanese soldiers with his bare hands at times. Stuff he never spoke of until he found out I joined the Army.

 

From the earliest memories I have of him he would not tolerate any sign of weakness whatsoever at all.  He taught me to be tough and how to take pain.  Driving down the road he would reach over and grab the inside of my thigh pinch and twist and look at me and say how do you like this turtle bite? 

 

What the matter ya gonna cry?! Go Ahead I'll stick you in a fucking dress. I would grit my teeth and think of all the hateful things I would do to him to get even when I got big. He could see it in my squinted eyes and would lay off.  

 

Another time in the 70's when glass stove tops were new he yelled at me saying don't touch that fucking stove top it's hot and I don't want to here you fucking cry.

 

I looked him in the eye and slammed my hand on the burner. He flew across the room and yanked my burnt hand off the burner exclaiming you mean little sonofabitch!  and doctored my wound.

 

Another time a kid was picking on a girl in class was poking people with a pencil really hard and I said knock it off. He decided he was going to stab me in the face with the pencil. I threw up my hand and took the pencil in the palm then slugged the shit out of him.

 

Needless to say got sent to the nurse and the principals office. Grandad was visiting he picked me up and sung my praises for not being a little pussy and taking a stand.

 

My Mother his daughter was aghast and kept saying Dad he likes to fight too much already you can't encourage that he is going o get thrown out of school.

 

Grandad laughed all the harder saying God Damn it Sharon are you trying to raise little  girls?? Some day he is going to be a man and he better damn well learn how to fight.

 

Mom was right I got thrown out of school allot. Smiles. Poor Mom!

 

I had two brothers who grew up with me and it was pretty common for us to bicker and see who would break first. 

 

I ran Landscaping Crews for years mostly with EX Convicts as employees and those well on their way. So yeah we know the rough side of life.

 

I agree listen to Kar3n she is a good moderator who actually cares about the community here.

51 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

sift for the gold and throw away   the dross ..   

 

 

But from now on, If I want a good teacher , I think I ask them what this is and how they would use it  first ;

 

 

 

 

 

Looks beautiful to me like artwork caught in motion. Thanks for sharing,  the picture has a very nice feel about it.

Spaghetti 

On 7/1/2019 at 7:11 AM, Walker said:

@joeblast Since you would prefer discussion of martial ethics/virtue to be kept separate from discussion of martial technique, and since I think Starjumper has to accept closer scrutiny than just your average TDB blowhard since he's now selling his books and videos here, I am splitting the threads. I write the following to anybody who cares, although it addresses your post directly.

 

(Anybody who wishes to troll this thread, go on ahead. But at least read this first so you can say something genuinely witty and germane. And Starjumper, if you wish to continue mocking me here, you're welcome to. Go hard. Consult a thesaurus even. Why not get it out of your system once and for all, and then try and remember that you're never too old to grow up.)

 

 

Thanks for your thoughts. If I come across as one who was sheltered and therefore does not understand street violence, thank you for that too. I say that without guile or irony. I take your comment as a compliment, as it was not easy to go from being a person regularly consumed by anger and involved with violence of many kinds to a person who rarely feels the need to even think about harming other people or vandalizing my environment. My most important martial arts teachers would also be satisfied if I told them that it appears I do not carry an aura of violence, even online. They (two from the Shaolin tradition, one from Wudang, neither famous) were exceedingly clear that gentleness and calm were the the most important things we would ever learn, even though to be certain in the Shaolin school there was often bruising and bloodshed as we trained in a way that reflected a real need for self-defense in that time and place.  

 

My recollections of the violent side of the world that I passed through are very relevant to my opinion that Steve Gray. It is because of those experiences that I say that if he is going to be selling spiritual books and videos online (and hawking them here), then he needs to assume more responsibility for his words than XYZ random forum member does. One who sells teaching materials related to spiritual practice (even if he denies that's what his books and videos are about) must exercise real discernment and be cautious about publicly disseminating violent fantasies or bigotry, even when in jest or when acting out an outrageous online persona. Those who decide to be teachers, especially when they're selling the types of books young people like (Power! Jedis! Dragons! CIA! Kill you with merely a thought! Bruce Lee! Aliens! Wizards! Harry Potter!), need to know that silly young fools may actually end up taking them as role models. Their words may manifest in their students' and fans' actions. These are things that virtuous teachers keep at the very front of their minds--for the sake of their students, society, and their very own karma

 

I will explain why I feel strongly about these things, but first I will apologize, because I know it is all too easy for discussion of a "dark past" to turn into a sort of dick measuring contest (that keyword is a T-ball pitch for you if you need it, SJ). Nevertheless, here it is: sheltered though I may seem, in fact from mob brawls to 10-against-2 beatdowns (on both sides of that ratio) to bottles smashed over heads (more times than I can count, with a goodly scar on my forehead for when I got to taste it myself) to baseball bats and table legs to stabbings and all the way up to gun play (on both sides for that, also, though by grace of the Spaghetti Monster no altercation I was personally involved with resulted in a bullet hitting a body; yet I've been within fifty feet of a drive-by as well as dumb kids shooting a dude to death because he stopped his car to confront them when they threw rocks at it... cold world indeed), to multiple close friends and acquaintances losing people to murder, to friends falling apart in the crack game, to stick up kid friends who turned into the psychopaths who cut people after getting the money, to friends locked up... I have seen a fair bit, and the list goes on. That's just the violent crime, making no mention of the other crimes as well as my habitually foul behavior towards women, gay men, people weaker or stupider than me, etc. All that said, I came from a comfortable enough household and was not as hard as I aspired to be. I learned I was definitely not hard when my propensity for violence increasingly put me in contact with people who were in much deeper than me. Participating in beating up and apparently stabbing a BPSN one year meant having to keep a gun in the apartment and lay low on paranoid mode for quite some time. Less than a year later, I put a rifle in my friend's hand and he licked a shot at a group of BDs who damn sure knew who we were, so I had to leave my home and nearly everything I owned and permanently camp out on my friends' sofa. Having all that go on while becoming a little too well-known to police and also expelled from college in large part because I was involved in a brawl turned stabbing there, well, it ended up being enough to convince me that I needed to get my shit together.

 

But... Getting one's shit together when one is a young, selfish, antisocial retard who didn't have a good male role model in the home is exceedingly difficult. One of the biggest blessings in my life was that I had encountered and trained with both the Shaolin and the Wudang teachers before I went feral. I was able to remember that while training Shaolin martial arts I had been healthy and in high spirits, and also easily avoided conflict. In my twenties, when I finally realized the need I had for discipline and guidance in my life, I knew that these things existed, and I was able to go back to them. Far more important than the physical practices was the availability of responsible, mature, sane men to teach me how to stop being a fucking fool.

 

That was many years ago. I have not needed to fight with anybody since then. The two times people tried to jump me since then, I just ran away, which was easy, as few goons are in better shape than I am, and also because there was simply no compelling reason not to run away. This last fact I was able to see clearly because my teachers were men who offered their students very clear teachings about what kind of behavior reflects integrity, and what kind does not. The two Shaolin teachers were both cops in an area where violence was a part of life. One teacher's teenage son had died because he was shot in the face at point blank down the street in a convenience store for answering a question about his gang affiliation by saying he had none. You can imagine that we were reminded about this story on a regular basis, especially if anybody in the school got into conflicts in the neighborhood. So, we trained and became strong and punched and kicked each other but we also were fed a steady stream of moral instructions from men who were mature, upright, strong, confident, dangerous, very familiar with violence, and yet never ever ever ever prone to sitting there making light of it, or bragging about it, joking about killing people, name-calling those they did not like, etc. I am sure they behaved the way they did in part because they were aware of how volatile and impressionable all the hormonal, teenaged and early-twenty-something minds around them were. To be unclear about what constitutes virtuous behavior is to fail as a martial arts teacher, regardless of how skilled one may be at teaching people to punch, kick, grapple, etc. 

 

My own life example proves that even if you do teach properly, kids will still fail to get the message. Yet, despite the fact that I strayed far from what my teachers had taught me when I was a teenager, my great good fortune was that they planted seeds that remained fertile until I finally began to examine my life in my twenties. Had they not done so, I do not know how I would have found the power to change the direction my life was plummeting along in. Perhaps I would have have failed to extract myself. I can only remain grateful that they upheld the martial culture as excellent role models and mentors who helped me cease harming myself and others. What they demonstrated was 武德, "martial virtue." The character 武 simply depicts stopping (止) and a bladed weapon (戈). Partially this refers to self defense, which helps you stop others from harming you. But when viewed as the basis of moving from simple martial arts training into a spiritual existence it reveals a deeper meaning of learning to stop yourself from harming self and other. This is not easy to do, and yet it is core of all Chinese martial arts that can legitimately claim to have their roots in the teachings of the sages. Those of you who view this place as The Dao Bums and not simply "the bums," please be aware that the Daodejing makes no bones about this issue. If you can't remember where, it is time to read the book again. 

 

This brings me back to Steve Gray, who claims to have inherited one of the greatest Chinese martial arts ever--one that indeed comes from the spirit realm and turns people into sages. In choosing to use this shared forum as a platform from which to hawk his book full of purported spiritual teachings, his neigong videos (including those expressly meant to activate shen), and to attract students to his brick-and-mortar school, he has chosen to move from the role of simple forum member into a more public role. I do not suggest that anybody needs to force him to speak and write in one way or another. But given Steve's transition to public figure, I think there is no reason to treat him differently from any other author, video maker, or "master" plying his/her trade on the internet. Given that he is selling teachings, there is plenty of reason to take a serious look at just what kind of teacher this is. That is why I hold his fantasy about killing the BJJ practitioner in a different light than I would if it were posted by a random TDbum. That violent fantasy and all the name-calling that goes on and on and on and on... what kind of person does it reflect? What kind of teacher does it reflect? What kind of energetic, spiritual, and martial development does it reflect? Is it just little jokes, or is this man perhaps deranged and dangerous? If he is not deranged, why does he feel the need to play the role of a somewhat crazy, bullying person when he is posting on the internet? 

 

There is another issue which also demands some scrutiny: Starjumper is spreading videos online of shen practices which he admits that he himself cannot safely practice. Today, regarding the videos he recently posted he wrote:

 

 

It is well known that improper shen practices can and often enough do lead to mental illness and spiritual disturbances. That Starjumper is using the Dao Bums as a platform to advertise and distribute video instructions for practices that he, as their teacher (creator even?), does not fully understand is eyebrow-raising to say the least. My opinion is that simply tacking warnings onto the beginning of videos (or covering your book with the word "spiritual" and then denying it is about spirituality) is a lame cop out, and demonstrative of a man who lacks the sense of responsibility required of a person in the role he is trying to occupy.

 

Anyway, I feel I have made my point. Food for thought for some, hopefully. Maybe some will think I'm overreacting. I was taught by people who took this sort of shit very seriously and took pains to explain why. My hard-won life experience lends me to think they were right in doing so, and thus I take my time to express these things as clearly as I possibly can. People should be very careful when choosing teachers. That is all. 

So ignore him. 

2 hours ago, Stosh said:

I don't see anyone saying that the reason to be born is such , but I take it as fine that you think that is important,

; What if you die in utero? 

Well if you die in utero then you got just a little bit of this life experiences and it is allot shorter than what those who achieve adulthood experience.

 

2 hours ago, Stosh said:

So what , you wouldn't care , besides , your bliss would be mundane for you. 

Smiling I assure you it does not become mundane, and you still care because even as impossible as it is there is the wish for others to experience what you are as well instead of being stuck with the tiny amount they experience of life and often dully. There is a feeling of love for others. The overiding sentiment is I wish I could give this to you and you could know this as well. Just gotta experience it to comprehend it.

 

1 hour ago, Lost in Translation said:

I think the words we use are insufficient.

You are correct. 

 

1 hour ago, Lost in Translation said:

Bliss" is wrong for this context. Anyone who "remain(s) blissful" while the world "come(s) crashing down around them" is insane. Bliss is the wrong response for such an event.

It sure is from any other perspective than that of bliss. 

 

When there is little to nothing one can do it might also be argued it is not only the only response left but the best one possible. Think of the Zen monk hanging from a tree root a cherry above a tiger below and to grab the cherry is to fall into the maw of th tiger which will happen anyway when the grip is lost, so he reaches up and exclaims how sweet it is.

 

1 hour ago, Lost in Translation said:

That said, I think there is a place for holding an unmoving center, as it were.

Now you are getting warmer.

 

1 hour ago, Lost in Translation said:

An enlightened person absolutely could remain unmoved at that place in their being even as the world burns, but that is not the same as bliss.

It does not take full enlightenment even a few shallow experiences that transforms you just enough is sufficient. 

2 hours ago, Stosh said:

I'm not sure that's escapism ,, perhaps worded differently, I would understand this point. 

Let see if I can reword it by starting with the mechanics of the situation.

 

First you need to have a few Kensho moments ( these are insights into reality as it is or mini experiences of enlightenment that happen over time and can be pretty subtle or hugely rock your boat either way they build up over time) 

 

I seriously doubt the full enlightenment can happen all at once anyway.

 

Then you need to do practices for a while until the crown opens and experience all that follows from that and it is quite allot.

 

After that if you will simply inhale from the nostrils with a feeble easy breath that becomes ever more shallow on its own and follow it 3 to 4 inches into the skull and then go straight up into the crown you will find your seat of awareness moved into this area.

 

All you do is practice this simple easy practice and allow yourself to become absorbed in the crown. 

 

Over time this will resolve into different states of conscious awareness and samadhi's of different depths. During the day you maintain this  lightly without effort and soon it just does it on its own. The effect builds and you find yourself even as Lost in translation mentioned with his holding an un-moving center.

 

What this feels like is you are more connected with the crown or fontanel than any other part of your body, your thoughts really slow down and become far and few between. There is calmness, there is a feel of being here but also elsewhere which becomes more and more real as time goes on and the profane world but a shadow of what is generating it.. Everything takes on a different luster and colors become more vibrant sounds more acute and so on.

 

People become beautiful and you feel love which is sometimes overwhelmingly beautiful, the heart softens and you feel more profoundly.  

 

It also becomes difficult to be around very dense people. You also develop an aversion to talking or having to respond to people in a pre-accepted mode they expect from you due to their familiarity with accustomed response patterns.

 

Things change quite a bit and if continued who knows how far and permanent things will become?

 

I have not had the luxury of taking this all the way to the furthest degree as I have always had to work and interact with people and a former ex-wife who was as hide bound to the what you can touch see and feel of this and the profane material reality of earth as any have ever been.

 

 Perhaps when I am old and towards the end I will kick out all the stops. As it is right now I carry quite a bit of this with me as it never goes away completely and am still growing into it even though I do fluctuate.  Once started the momentum keeps going.

 

The holding ones center here is in the 7th Chakra and it often goes up into the 8th and beyond. After the 7th you are entering into the lower chakras of the astral body. 

 

In each chakra your awareness is altered, colored, influenced in such a way that expresses the dimension or lolka and the psyco emotional quality of said realm.

 

In the crown there is stillness silence and spaciousness to borrow Bon terms, there are great waves of pleasurable energy that enter through the crown and cascade through the body with feelings of great pleasure /  bliss. Where ever an obstruction or illness is in the body it interacts and when it does you feel vibration, which can become very strong and make the hairs stand up all over your body and it can be orgasmic in every cell. You also experience feelings of divine love during the life force working with the thing in need be it an obstruction or an illness and it is a love that expects nothing it just is an rises spontaneously. 

 

You can also experience hearing inner-sound from the vibration.

 

The attitude is one of calm satisfaction and timelessness hours can slip past as if they were minutes and there is not a real concern nor care about much of anything you know things have to get done so you just do them in a very detached yet caring manner.

 

The problem with this is you are adorning the high heavens and not your physical life. You are missing out on the very opportunities that challenges offer as you are emotionally altered and distant and your sentiments are not the normal. There is also a danger of being to present in the high heavens and becoming careless here and now and careless is followed by wreckless which can be followed by unneeded tragedy.

 

Example during my peak work with this I came off a highway the off ramp was posted 25 miles per hour I was driving by feeling while in the high heavens it was not until I feel the cab of my truck lifting I realized something was off. I looked and I was doing 50 how the truck did not flip and roll I will never know. At that moment I did not care either other than I did not want the person behind me to get in a wreck as they were following too close in a sports car.

 

Now all that being said everything in proportion eventually you learn to live with this and as time goes on it gets stronger. If you can do this all it takes is a little practice and even when you stop it does not.

 

I do not practice this, it does however practice me.

Just now, Limahong said:

 

Hi Pilgrim,

 

Why do you have to hide these...?

 

#1. The first problem is that you will miss the very reason your were born in the first place and that reason is to experience a Human Lifetime.

 

#2. You will not have many to keep you company so you will have created a situation for yourself where you are bliss and everyone you interact with is mundane.

 

#3. You will come to view the profane world for what it is and can loose yourself in all that underpins it and creates it.

 

In short escapism of the highest order and magnitude.

 

It is not all bad though if you can learn how to be in the world but not of it then this is a way of actualizing those words. You just have to know not to go too far and not fool yourself. A balancing act.

 

My apology for bringing the above to light without prior consent.

 

- Anand

 

It was intentional to give people time to think on their own before looking. 

3 hours ago, Stosh said:

I think that is a reasonable thing to surmise if we talking about -the whole time while we are alive overall. 

 

Things constantly shift from being in perfect balance with where we are, we get older , get hungry , our loved ones , if you got em , start getting into a fix, the fridge poops out , the AC starts bumping. ( yes bumping , one day the AC started making a horrific sound , bang bang bang - a snake got onto the fan blade so when the fan turned on , its head was slamming into the four sides of the handler) 

 

But for short durations maybe people can reach the blissful state  I cant say, but coming home after work ,and after eating a nice meal , maybe the wife cooked up , and you plop on your ass in an easy chair , maybe you put on the ball game ...

and everything can seem right in the world, there's nothing needing to be done. 

Can I say that the world gets better than anything I know ? ,,, No,  I cant. 

And neither can anybody else. 

I could teach people how to achieve a permanent blissful state, not everyone as people do have to be at a certain stage.

 

Yes they will remain blissful and their world can come crashing down around them and still they would remain blissful.

 

There is a problem with this though. Can anyone spot what it is? Hmmmm...???