KuroShiro

On 2/5/2020 at 7:04 PM, rideforever said:

Yes the Taoist awakening is of the LDT.  The TTC and other texts are written from people who experience the world through the intelligence of the Dantien, therefore they intrinsically feel the flow of energies within the world.

 

 

On 2/5/2020 at 7:04 PM, rideforever said:

A Taoist has an awakened LDT plus a partially developed centre in the forehead (that he might not realise)

 

I think what you're saying here is incorrect. There is nothing that's left partially developed regarding highest stages of True Daoist Cultivation.

 

The LDT is related to Jing. Daoism works with Jing, Qi and Shen, LDT, MDT, UDT.

 

The Dao De Jing was written from Universal Consciousness, being Universal there is no place in which it's not present, so you could say it's the intelligence of the DT.

 

 

On 2/5/2020 at 7:19 PM, dwai said:

In my experience, when awakening occurs, energetically the dantiens fuse into one super-dantien. So really, while it is possible to operate from each of these different dantiens (and we do it from application perspective, especially in the martial context), the awareness is unconditioned and prior to association to anything in the physical or the energy body. 

 

Actually there are other 'dantiens' which are outside the boundary of the physical body as well -- all of those fuse into one. 

Can you share more about the other 'dantiens'?

thanks.

 

On 2/5/2020 at 2:21 PM, dwai said:

The Anahata sound is ringing in my inner ear 24x7. The Daoists call it the sound of Dao (my master calls it the sound of emptiness) -- sounds like a waterfall or thousands of windchimes going off at the same time, or thousands of cicadas buzzing at the same time at a very high pitch. 

 

That sounds.. horrible?

I thought the Dao was soundless haha. What a bummer thanks for sharing.

 

11 hours ago, Taomeow said:

 

Interesting.  Definitely the kind of dog equipped to handle extreme cold temperatures still exists, and some are employed just the way they may have been employed 18,000 years ago.     

 

Hmm, I don't know, an Ice Age seems to be a different beast than present conditions. I'd think they would have migrated South.

 

12 minutes ago, Apech said:

I put Everything on 'ignore' but I can still see his post which is a bit annoying.

 

So the effortlessly annoying is annoyed?

 

12 minutes ago, Apech said:

If Enkidu lived with the animals and used their watering hole etc. and didn't lose this affinity with nature until seduced by Shamhat - then perhaps the domestication of dogs is not domestication.  If we take Enkidu as our natural state that is.  Perhaps it's just that they retained an affinity with man when other animals lost it ... because of the energetic effects of civilisation (as symbolised by Shamhat as temple priestess/prostitute - especially given the emphasis on make-up = masking true nature)???  So dogs (and to a certain extent other animals) somehow retained the ability to relate to our inner nature - while 'wilder' animals did not.  Just a thought.

 

This NHK Doc. seems to be interesting, it talks about how oxytocin levels rise when the children look into the dog's eyes. The levels  in the dog also increase (12:10).

 

24:00:

When did the special relationship between humans and dogs begin? The oldest evidence of the 2 species living together was found among ruins in the Paleolithic Era (Eynan ruins - 12,000 years ago) that's around the time when humans began farming.

 

26:00:

Wolves and foxes.

 

Quick search:

oxytocin-chemistry-between-people-and-dogs-real

the-look-of-love-is-in-the-dogs-eyes

 

18,000-year-old puppy discovered in Siberia could be missing link between dogs and wolves

 

An 18,000-year-old puppy unearthed in Siberia could prove to be the missing link between dogs and wolves, scientists believe. 

 

 

22 hours ago, manitou said:

Now that you've been reminded, will you be doing it any time soon?

 

Don't know.

 

It can save your life. Just don't wait until you're dehydrated:

 

 

No bottle? No problem:

 

 

 

1 hour ago, thelerner said:

On the other hand.  When Michael Winn did long term meditation in ye olde Taoist caves reportedly he, like them, drank urine.  He recommended not drinking the first or last third of it..as I recall.

 

Interesting, Daoist Masters drinking urine?

 

17 minutes ago, silent thunder said:

If it's so amazing beneficial and healthy... why is my body naturally purging it?

 

Have you ever heard about fecal transplant?

It's literally saving people's lives.

Don't know about dog pee but human urine does seem to have superpowers.

Highly prized in China, especially children's urine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_boy_egg

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Drinking one's own urine for healing"(same one as above):

 

 

 

I guess you could call it Golden Dan.

 

I thought about start drinking it ever since I watched this documentary, but then it must have slipped my mind.

On 11/16/2019 at 5:04 PM, Taomeow said:

You thought I'd overlook food? 

 

Well I thought it might be implied but I wanted to make sure . It really deserves to be highlighted especially in the context of magic.

 

On 11/16/2019 at 5:04 PM, Taomeow said:

I just sort of think of it in the overall context of a broad definition of "magic."  Magic, you know, as part of how ordinary reality itself works -- we're just so used to the most miraculous that we don't think of it as magical, instead we think of magic as something "goal-oriented" that either "works toward the goal we set" or "doesn't work."  And therein lies our demise.  "Forced magic" usually either doesn't work at all, or works destructively.  It's easier to harness a djinn that destroys palaces than one who builds them.  Try to build a city with a nuclear bomb.

 

Food is the most magical thing.  It's not just the crude "outside to inside" shift -- it's the first alchemical transformation of "not me" into "me."  And vice versa, depending on what you eat.  The kind of "me" you obtain is predicated on what kind of "not me" you got as input.  But in a most mysterious way!  The mammoth ate grass, it was essentially a huge wooly lawn mower.  We ate the mammoth though, once the grass into mammoth transformation was taken care of.  They used to not mind until it got really cold really suddenly...  so researchers blaming their extinction on us are way off.  We just cleaned the plate and there were no second helpings anymore, but we aren't the sun so we weren't responsible when it abruptly stopped cooking the mammoths' food for them.  

 

So I guess culture is predicated on, primarily, climate, the latter is the epigenetic factor that causes cultures "in the human sense" to manifest, and epigenetic adaptation is part of magic.  Learning to use fire to cook food was culture -- and magic.  We can't breathe fire, we had to come up with a cultural way to externalize our needs.  Culture is a departure from the embodied, taking something originating "in here within me" into the outside world.  Long as it doesn't depart too far, doesn't suck the "in here within me" dry like our modern culture does, we're OK.  Culture is a double-edged sword that is easy to fall on.   (Or push someone onto.)  

 

thanks

 

On 11/16/2019 at 5:04 PM, Taomeow said:

So dogs are dragons?  What about cats?  

 

Don't ask me.

 

What do the Sumerians tell about agriculture, animal domestication? Did someone teach them?

I wonder if we would have had the domestication of the wolf without agriculture/animal domestication, that is what came first.

It's interesting that the most intelligent dog breed is the border collie, a herding dog.

11 hours ago, Nungali said:

Culture has two meanings too ;  ' culture '   and  ' a culture' .

 

My favorite meaning is food.

 

17 hours ago, Taomeow said:

Whereas "culture" is really part of nature, an attempt (on varying scales) to penetrate its mysteries and imitate/replicate/embody its creativity.  Magic is the first cultural endeavor -- and it used to be ubiquitous way before cities and back-breaking work in the fields.

 

What about food?

 

 

On 11/13/2019 at 3:52 PM, Taomeow said:

 

Do tell about the dog.

 

Gilgamesh is a great starting point indeed.  I have it in Stephen Mitchell's translation ("Gilgamesh: A New English Translation") and while I haven't looked to compare it with other versions, would dare recommend it on its own merits.  It has energy, passion, startling surprises -- you almost feel as though you're reading a thriller rather than researching some ancient dust. 

 

Thank you.

It's interesting that the origin of the word seems to be a mystery, giving rise to theories:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7bxqd4

 

 

@Taomeow I have the feeling you'll like this documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ8dSGSRppw

 

On 10/25/2019 at 5:17 PM, Taomeow said:

Some Akkadian words still sound familiar to an English speaker.  E.g.,

elat — higher; beyond
elâtu — higher end; the sky
elûti — high; upper

 

Elate, elated, elevated...  elite...  Enlil (n was not pronounced in Sumerian or Akkadian) 

 

 

 

The etymology  of the English word Dog seems to be very interesting.

I know nothing about Sumeria, should I start with the Epic of Gilgamesh?

 

 

5 hours ago, welkin said:

Maybe we're taught to believe that it's us. Our human race. Our people. When in reality, it's the "Narrative" that causes all this.

 

Why the narrative? i feel like the answers are unveiling.

 

 

Do you know what's A.I. role in the "Narrative"?

Ming and Xing, Xing and Ming, I remember when I was reading a Daoist Classic every couple of paragraphs I'd thought: wait a min. which one is Xing and Ming again?

 

2 hours ago, dwai said:

Xing is "Original nature or True Nature", and lies in the domain of consciousness. Its root is the spiritual heart/MDT.

 

 

Isn't Xing related to Yuan Shen? I thought it was rooted in UDT. What is the Chinese word of the spiritual heart you're referring to?

 

2 hours ago, dwai said:

Ming is the" Life force or Qi", and lies in the domain of energy, and its root is the Lower Dan tien.

 

I think Ming is also related to Jing. Are you thinking about Yuan Qi when you say Qi?

 

2 hours ago, dwai said:

Practices like Qigong work on Ming. Xing needs more intricate (and simpler) forms of meditation wherein emphasis is not on cultivation and "adding to" (jing, qi and Shen) and/or "transformation" (Jing to Qi, Qi to Shen), but rather of letting go and reduction/elimination (of artificial mental concepts, preconceptions and even subject-object interactions, aka Shen to Emptiness). 

 

But when you' practicing Qigong you're also working with Xing even if it's indirect work, no?

 

2 hours ago, dwai said:

Ming requires/implies "you wei" or doing, while Xing requires "wu wei" or not-doing.  But the two are not mutually exclusive, but rather parts of a continuum. Without proper cultivation of Ming, Xing cannot be realized(?). 

 

What would you say are the results of Ming Gong?

 

2 hours ago, dwai said:

We have to go from doing to not-doing, effort to effortlessness. All it takes is patience, sincerity and clarity of mind. 

 

There's the possibility you can "Wu Wei all the way" from start to finish.

I think ultimately Xing and Ming might be One.

23 hours ago, Scholar said:

Im in need of an qiqong exercise to increase my concentration skills, I going to do an important test next week and need to be the more concentrated possible(I have low attention span).Im pretty good at maths but I commonly make mistakes because of lack of attention

 

Essential oils might be your best bet.

To minimize those mistakes always review what you've done (writing again) on a separate paper (if you have time after finishing the test).

 

5 hours ago, Taomeow said:

I don't know of a qigong that would rearrange one's mind toward better focus within a week.

 

+ 1, + he would have less time to study.

 

49 minutes ago, gj551 said:

hi

 

(maybe this is a newbie question but it keeps bugging me for some time now)

 

so i sat there for like 8 hours turning the microcomic orbit (the "water-wheel" as hu xuezhi puts it) and didnt get any results :/  i did this 3 times in the last few weeks but sadly it did not get me anywhere.. i mean, turning the MCO ("circulating the light") has to bring at least SOME result (can also be bad results) but i felt nothing. now im somewhat disappointed

 

i stuck to charles luk's version of the MCO, that is, i used the solar plexus point in the front of the body (and ming men point in the back) for bathing and soaking... i wasnt expecting something great to happen. the book says doing the mco will make the genital shrink back into the body but there wasnt the slightest feeling of something like this (like maybe decreased carnal desire)

 

the aforementioned 'hu xuezhi' can be read here:  http://www.taoiststudy.com/taoist_alchemy/whole-process-taoist-internal-alchemy

 

on page 124 of 'taoist yoga' theres a picture showing the location of the cardinal points of the microcosmic orbit c. luk is refering to:

luk speaks of "moving the energy" along the A-D-G-J and back to A points... that would be: start at A (the perineum, also called hui-yin oder 'hai-di' point) by inhaling air, move it up to D for bathing and then up to G, and then start exhalation and move it down to J (solar plexus) for soaking and then back to A... im trying to stick to his instruction as close as possible to avoid any spurious practice

 

what results (of any kind) do you get when turning the mco?

 

(edit: can you see the image? i do get an error notification)

 

 

Did you naturally open the mco? If not it's probably best to not engage in any mco practices.

On 10/31/2019 at 4:53 AM, Small Fur said:

To strengthen a spirit, one does not add substance to it. Rather, one purifies it. This purification allows for it to connect to its origin of substance: physiologically, these are pools of energy that traverse throughout the body in the form of meridians and into the universe through what are known as ‘Source Points’ along those meridian channels. Pure consciousness, or pure spirit is powerful beyond the human mass: so to have greater consciousness is to have greater strength of spirit.

 

What you're saying here is very interesting, could you please elaborate about this relation between the Acupuncture Points and the Universe?

18 hours ago, Taomeow said:

So then, jing is the basis, foundation, prerequisites for the transformation; qi, the process of transformation; shen, the expenditures of this process.  Hence two types of practices, the easy one that goes with the flow, in the direction things go anyway (from concentration to dissipation, from potential to actualization) and the difficult one that goes against the flow.  It is easy to cook rice.  It is easy for the steam to escape.  One can speed up this process by increasing the fire.  One can get more shen faster by spending jing and transforming it into qi, and qi into shen more actively.  The opposite, which is taoist proper, is about capturing the steam that escaped, putting it back in the pot, cooling off the water, uncooking the cooked rice!!  Reversing the "natural" flow of the order of things.  Or, as another taoist metaphor put it, "putting the oak tree back into the acorn." 

 

Now that's tricky.  Which is why you will encounter many instructions as to how to get what will happen anyway to happen at will -- jing to qi to shen transformations -- toward leaving the "material world," the pot and the rice and the water -- the body -- behind, toward a "lighter," "immaterial" existence as pure spirit.  While the opposite process entails seeking out older, immortalist-taoist alchemical reversal practices aimed at preserving and rejuvenating, possibly indefinitely, the material body in the material world -- or at least slowing down the process of its "immaterialization" and gaining longevity.  Capturing dissipated ling (an aspect of shen that I've heard translated as "supernatural intelligence"), finding a way for the steam to condense and drop back into the pot...  But that's probably for a six-year-old, a five-year-old is not ready yet.  

 

Are you saying that the path Jing to Qi, Qi to Shen, Shen to Void is not Daoist proper?

What do you mean by "jing to qi to shen transformations will happen anyway"?

Also you say that you want to uncook the cooked rice, does this mean you must go through the "jing to qi to shen transformations" before you start the "opposite process"?

 

Ling is related to Yin, right?

 

thanks

 

I'm reading Reconstructing the Confucian Dao:

 

"The Xici 繫辭 (Appended remarks) appendix of the Yijing contains the following lines:

In change there is taiji, which generates the Two Modes. The Two Modes generate the Four Images, and the Four Images generate the Eight Trigrams.*"

 

*"Yijing, Xici A.11.5 (Zhu, Zhouyi benyi 3:14b). This is the first occurrence of taiji in extant Chinese literature."

 

I had no idea and thought it was interesting to share.

 

 

Also found this after a quick google search:

 

The Writing of the Xici Zhuan an the Making of the Yijing by Ed Shaughnessy:

 

"The discovery and publication of the Mawangdui manuscript of the Yijing including, a text of its most famous canonical commentary, the Xici zhuan or Tradition of the Appended Statements, has reopened in China an old debate over the authorship and philosophical orientation of the Xici: whether it is Confucian (whether written by Confucius himself or not), or whether – and to what extent – it preserves elements more properly called Daoist."

 

On 9/23/2019 at 4:44 PM, manitou said:

How would they frame them?  No words learned yet.  And because of that, I am guessing a baby doesn't really experience linear time as such.

 

Ha, you're guessing! That's what I thought.

I don't think you need words to have thoughts and don't forget the baby language:

 

 

On 9/24/2019 at 4:08 PM, Rara said:

 

5'10". I did all this before. Just ended up shitting a lot haha

 

155lbs to 5'10" is good.

 

On 8/31/2019 at 5:28 PM, freeform said:

Yi Jin Jing is the basis of all the internal arts - Qi Gong, Nei Gong, Taiji, Bagua etc. And it comes from Shaolin originally. It’s been heavily adopted by Daoists into everything they do.

 

Thanks for confirming this. Also Yoga?

 

On 8/31/2019 at 5:28 PM, freeform said:

What you call hard Qi Gong, is just conditioning with some elements of the YJJ present - I wouldn’t call it Qi Gong (the mastery of Qi) - it’s just using some tools from the Qi Gong arsenal to develop some capacity.

 

The hard Qi Gong I'm referring to is about Qi, Nei Gong not body conditioning.

 

On 8/31/2019 at 5:28 PM, freeform said:

The Qigong as applied to healing and spiritual cultivation, for me is of a far greater interest.

 

I understand what you're saying here but I think you might be underestimating the ability to direct Qi into one's hands and fingers. I'm not saying it should be an end goal but it seems to be a good signpost along the way.  It's not all about breaking rocks, it's very important for the healing arts. I don't know about spiritual cultivation but I suspect it might be important too. Here's what @MIchael80 said in another thread:

 

 

On 8/31/2019 at 5:28 PM, freeform said:

These aspects of Shaolin are not normally shared or demonstrated to the public. And these days Shaolin has become more of a physical training academy and athletic performance centre - rather than a spiritual school.

 

However there are still true masters from the Shaolin line around. They are not the ones breaking bricks or doing acrobatics or other feats for tourists (unsurprisingly)

 

Yes, of course, the true masters are the ones I'm interested in. I have another question (probably not easy to answer) for you (sorry ):

Master Peng is a true master from the Chinese Buddhist Tradition and his teacher, Master Xiao Yao, was from a different temple than Shaolin. Does this mean that what he was taught regarding internal practices can be considered to be Shaolin (regarding origin and type of practices/methods) or there might not be any direct connection between what is taught in different Buddhist temples in China?

(I now know that "Yi Jin Jing is the basis of all the internal arts" but I think I don't believe its origin is Shaolin Monastery)

 

On 9/2/2019 at 10:33 AM, Rara said:

I eat a lot of bread, rice and potatoes but still struggle to get over 155lbs

Can you tell us your height?

Eating a lot of bread, rice and potatoes is probably not good for you (everyone).

The best way to gain weight is to build muscle mass and for this you need an emphasis on protein, you need to eat a lot - several meals/snacks + protein shakes. Check out the diet of weightlifters/strongmen/some actors, I believe this type of diet is not healthy.

For someone practicing Qi Gong or Nei Gong gaining muscle mass should not be on the menu, when you see a Daoist Master they're not bulky and are usually quite thin.

We can learn a lot from babies.

 

@manitou how do you know babies have no thoughts?

 

Regarding the smile it might not be that simple:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3105580.stm

On 8/30/2019 at 12:15 PM, MuadDib said:

The Shaolin monk types look very muscular and they seem to do a lot of resistance training - on the videos at least. (Most noticably extreme forms of horse stance and ZZ).

 

Would that indicate that they do not build internal power? Just curious...

 

On 8/30/2019 at 3:23 PM, dwai said:

It’s a different kind of power. Imho, afaik, shaolin style develops what is called “hard qigong” power. It is not the same quality that the Daoist methods cultivate. 

 

5 hours ago, freeform said:

 

The Shaolin monks we tend to see performing (or selling online courses) are basically highly trained and extremely skilled acrobats - they do not have internal skill.

 

Shaolin-based Qigong masters (with real skill) are rarer - but do exist. 

 

Feeform, do you know if the Shaolin-based Qigong masters also rely on the Yi Jin Jing, dantien? If they do there really is no major difference between internal Shaolin - “hard qigong” - and Daoist methods?

 

I believe Master Hai Teng achieved a very high level in the internal arts:

 

 

On 8/28/2019 at 9:53 PM, MuadDib said:

I totally get your concerns. One should remember that there are two sides to the equation when it comes to weight loss: The amount of energy you burn and the amount of fuel you put into your body.

 

The quality of fuel also.

 

On 8/28/2019 at 9:53 PM, MuadDib said:

Hippocrates said that man's best medicine is walking. I believe he was right and your are doing the right thing with the long walks.

 

And the best walking is uphill as it engages the 2nd heart(s).

On 8/27/2019 at 9:14 PM, dwai said:

Apologies for a long winded post. 

 

I waned to enquire whether any of you have thoughts on combining strength training with internal arts? 

 

Let me explain what I mean by that. The style of taijiquan I practice emphasizes letting go of muscular strength (li) and rather use jin - I know different people/schools have different ideas about what jin is. 

 

In our system it is considered to be the power generated by accelerating Qi into the bone marrow and the lower Dantien. 

 

So we store power by condensing Qi into the born marrow - my Sifu says it is like burning gas to generate horse power. Eventually it is generated by directing incoming force into the  LDT, which results in power/force rippling out like how a stone is dropped into a pool generates ripples. This ripple effect is capable of returning incoming force, and therefore ends up looking mysterious and woo woo.

 

My experience is, that it took me a long time to get it to a point where it works, to drop my tendency to use physical strength (almost 20 yrs of daily practice now). There is a sense of freedom and relaxation, along with the sense of unbroken sheath of cotton or silk/satin under the skin. I think many of you know what I’m referring to. 

 

Whenever I try to add physical conditioning to this, I feel suffocated; like the muscles develop in strength and begin to strangle the other type of ability generated in the body.  So I stopped physical training several years ago. I revisit from time to time but give up after a few weeks because of what I described.

 

As I’m growing older, I’m putting on more weight, as the metabolism is slowing down. I don’t think I can lose weight without adding some physical conditioning. What do the members on this group do? How do you balance your internal cultivation with physical conditioning?

 

31 minutes ago, dwai said:

But the quantity of food we intake does not easily change. So more calories in, less calories burnt. 

 

Ive done drastic changes to my diet, such as eating only half of what I’d normally eat, and dropped 45-50 lbs in a span of 3-4 months. But old dietary habits are very hard to change. Especially for all us “rice eaters” - it’s as addictive as nicotine imho. 

 

But its it’s just a theory  

 

 

This is an interesting subject dwai.

Since you've already achieved a high level in your taijiquan why throw it away with that kind of training?

As you say you can loose weight by making changes to your diet. One way might be keeping the rice and exclude all the other grains.

By the way I've stopped eating rice about 2 months ago and did not notice the addiction

I'm doing this because I need to gain weight

 

10 hours ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

Yes.

 

Eat food.

 

You also have to say what kind of food, right? Meat or no meat? What about grains?

 

20 hours ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

Cultivation texts mix these contexts drawing from both philosophical and medical sources.

 

Classical Chinese Medicine is applied Classical Chinese Philosophy.

On 8/2/2019 at 10:35 AM, MIchael80 said:

But since not many teach the full alchemical method and all the books that are on the market about neidan are the modern nothern method (which is watered down) you should read some of these.

first you need to "lay the foundations" (which means replenishing the yuan stuff in alchemy.....though in modern times it often means just using a little qi gong to balance the body).

 

Look into "daoist internal mastery" from Wang Liping

"white moon on the mountain peak" from Damo Mitchell

"neidan for everyone" forgot the author

all of these books teach only watered down forms of alchemy but better than nothing

 

Are you saying that all the books about Neidan are watered down because the authors, such as Masters Wang Liping and Damo Mitchell, don't know the real thing?

What about the Daoist Classics?

Do you know anyone that teaches the full alchemical method?

 

thanks.

3 hours ago, freeform said:

 

I’m sure about the fact that the practice of YJJ creates yang Qi to a high enough level to create ‘electric-like’ effects. I’ve met many practitioners able to project Yang Qi (as ‘electric’ shocks) just as Peng is reported to do - and I’ve built this sort of Yang Qi in my own body through the application of YJJ principles (though I haven’t learned to project).

 

I don’t know what ‘small death’ means, but that seems to be more of a timing thing than a cause and effect thing. 

 

 

Circus tricks  - YJJ and Brain and Marrow Washing (BMW) are designed to prepare one for the extremes of deep meditation... These are preparatory arts for spiritual work, and they go very deep indeed... this electric shock emission is just one side effect... strength, health, vitality and the building of extreme amounts of Qi is also a bunch of side effects - but all necessary for later work on the spiritual level.

 

The YJJ And BMW are thought to be Buddhist in origin, but they’ve clearly been readily adopted by Daoists. YJJ forms the backbone of most classical Qi Gong and Nei Gong systems (rarely admitted)... and the BMW forms much of the later level Nei Gong and Alchemical work.

 

The YJJ basically starts with a way of transitioning away from using the major muscles as the primary ‘engine’ of movement - and instead moving to using the ‘tendons and sinews’... or rather several different layers of fascia-like tissue as well as strands of ‘deep muscle’... These tissues are able to conduct Qi (and later actually build Qi) while the majors muscles cannot.

 

This work takes a long time... many years. It’s very uncomfortable, painful and difficult. It’s literally like bodybuilding - but building something very different to the muscles. You must have the correct methods otherwise it’s just stretching and breathing

 

Once the YJJ body (or Qigong body as I normally call it) is built, your channels are largely clear (and in many cases fused together) - your muscles are soft and relaxed, but there’s this thick steel cable-like structure of connective tissue around the bone. Steel wrapped in cotton  The body looks vibrant, slightly ‘expanded’ like a baby’s (Peng in taiji) and becomes very strong (so yes taking blows and feats of strength are possible - although most of the circus acts just build these things directly (eg. calluses and ordinary muscle strength) - not through YJJ) 

 

BMW goes further and works with the bones and marrow (the brain was considered marrow) and clears blockages and then builds further Qi generation engine and storage. This moves onto the alchemical work of ‘burning the channels’ - which burns away Karmic roots in the channels.

 

Thank you very much!

 

3 hours ago, freeform said:

Once the YJJ body (or Qigong body as I normally call it) is built, your channels are largely clear (and in many cases fused together) - your muscles are soft and relaxed, but there’s this thick steel cable-like structure of connective tissue around the bone. Steel wrapped in cotton  The body looks vibrant, slightly ‘expanded’ like a baby’s (Peng in taiji) and becomes very strong (so yes taking blows and feats of strength are possible - although most of the circus acts just build these things directly (eg. calluses and ordinary muscle strength) - not through YJJ) 

 

I've experienced this first hand with my Teacher's Teacher, it's incredible