Qiway

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  1. I have already put up a HUGE warning that people with Qi deviation already should not use this system to fix it. Instead go and see a Clinical Qigong Therapist as any self taught system will make it worse, not just this one. The rest is people telling a teacher how to present their lineage practice based on their experiences from other systems. Then people wonder why a lot of well known teachers refuse to participate on this forum. If you really feel the need then maybe you should indiscriminately dig up every single topic with a shared practice posted on this forum and get them to post a disclaimer. Or maybe ask the mods to delete them all if they don’t have a disclaimer instead of picking on just this one. If the Tao Bums admins or mods come up with a default disclaimer then of course I will adhere to that, but for now this practice is well presented. I’m breaking this cycle of having to constantly repeat myself, no matter whatever new way you come up with to waste my time. Take up any issues with the mods, I’m sure they would have been on it already if it was an issue or will do. Sincere questions from others welcome 🙏
  2. I would also like to say that if someone was to be injured from these instructions, I would be more concerned with helping them rather than hide behind a disclaimer. However in this day and age any alternative therapy practitioner must follow strict legislation and that is being followed. If anyone should be concerned about my legality that would be my insurance and those enforcing government legislation.
  3. As a physical and online business, it has already been checked by a lawyer and everything run by insurance. I may have misread the online communication but your tone seems to comes across as interrogation/attack rather than a fellow Tao Bum taking time from their day to genuinely offer legal advise from a place of concern and kindness.
  4. And I wasn’t using diversionary tactics, I was responding to your comment about Qi deviation being a beast by detailing my experience how I tackle such issues and how I wouldn’t put anything out there that would cause such things from my training experience. Now I’ve answered your issues about legality above. Anything else?
  5. The disclaimer is worded as recommended by the NHS (the official medical organisation in the UK) and by my public liability insurance. That’s how it works for alternative health practitioners (acupuncturists, chiropractors...) in the UK. We have to use the exact words to comply with legislation and insurance. I am insured as a Clinical Qigong Therapist as my full time profession under UK Law.
  6. Disclaimer: “Hu Yaozhen Qi Clinic offers services that belong in the complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) sector. They do not serve as a substitute for a doctor’s medical advice, examination, diagnosis or treatment.” That is the disclaimer used in everything I do and part of my terms and conditions before people commit to anything coming from me. My website is in the original post but not everyone may see the disclaimer, so thank you for pointing it out. Now will every thread that contains a shared practice will follow up with a disclaimer? I have had my share of dealing with Qi deviation and would not put out anything there that from my experience would cause harm. Below is my background of my clinical qigong. During the 20th century Master Hu Yaozhen helped coin up the term “Qigong” and “Medical/Clinical Qigong”, and then opened the very first Clinical Qigong Healing Hospital in Beijing, China. Master Hu earned the title “Father of Modern day Qigong” and three generations on Master Hu’s legacy thrives through the work of the Hu Yaozhen Qi Clinic. Regardless of my experience, I always keep a beginners mind and open to answer any concerns raised.
  7. That is your opinion from your experience, below is my opinion as an instructor in that specific art and as a Clinical Qigong Therapist. Or just as in any style of Qigong, the Qi will begin the healing process... Any style in any written/book or video format can cause healing or harm. Based on the amount of books/videos out there, the harms seems to be pretty low. Personally I have seen more harm in beginners via incorrect practice of martial qigong such as iron palm/body than health/medical qigong. Overall I have seen more sports based injuries than qigong based injuries.
  8. I can vouch for Jenny Lamb’s dvd and years ago she very kindly shared teachings that involved direct contact with Immortal Teachers for absolutely free. That said the energetics of each spontaneous qigong differ greatly. With moving forms you see the differences visually with spontaneous styles you cannot visually see the difference. Even Spontaneous Five Animal Play differs greatly. For example the one saved, compiled and readjusted by Liang Shifeng in the 1980s differs greatly to the one taught decades earlier by Hu Yaozhen (1879-1973). Then there are arts with foundations based in spontaneous qigong (that utilise Stillness, Movement and Spontaneous). So the chi is fired up to specific standards set out by the past Masters. Meaning we don’t settle for sensations such as tingling or warmth, the internal circulation must be so strong that it moves your body. So in those arts if the meridians in the arms are truly open then as soon as the practitioner enters the Qi State, the arms will immediately start to move on their own as the flow of Qi is that strong. Once all orbits open naturally then the practitioner may harness the chi to perform classical forms. I always tell people to go with the one that calls out to them, they will get a feeling or calling.
  9. i need help stoping spontaneous movement

    Exactly what I expected after privately assessing what went wrong here. Of all the Qi deviation I have seen in clinic, most are caused by practitioners of genuine systems who decide to teach when they have not trained as a Teacher. Sudden strong transmission of Qi + not being able to correctly energetically align a person = trouble. This case requires direct intervention and had akasuna123 started from the free instructions not only would they have saved a fortune (even when I charge its only a fraction of what they paid!) but be on a completely different healing journey. akasuna123 asks for the details of his situation to remain confidential so I will not delve who this “Master” was nor go into detail. Good Teacher or gentle self practice from the well written official English script that went through hundreds of recent trails by Liangs students prior to release in written format, equals steady balanced growth. https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/47557-free-hua-tuo’s-spontaneous-five-animals-play-qigong -zi-fa-wuqinxi-dong-gong/ One of the reasons I took on the responsibility of this lineage in clinic is because I was tired of seeing Qi deviation caused by advance students (even those who learnt directly in China) teaching when not going through the Teacher and Healer training.
  10. how to stop spontaneous movement?

    Exactly what I expected after privately assessing what went wrong here. Of all the Qi deviation I have seen in clinic, most are caused by practitioners of genuine systems who decide to teach when they have not trained as a Teacher. Sudden strong transmission of Qi + not being able to correctly energetically align a person = trouble. This case requires direct intervention and had akasuna123 started from the free instructions not only would they have saved a fortune (even when I charge its only a fraction of what they paid!) but be on a completely different healing journey. akasuna123 asks for the details of his situation to remain confidential so I will not delve who this “Master” was nor go into detail. Good Teacher or gentle self practice from the well written official English script that went through hundreds of recent trails by Liangs students prior to release in written format, equals steady balanced growth. https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/47557-free-hua-tuo’s-spontaneous-five-animals-play-qigong -zi-fa-wuqinxi-dong-gong/ One of the reasons I took on the responsibility of this lineage in clinic is because I was tired of seeing Qi deviation caused by advance students (even those who learnt directly in China) teaching when not going through the Teacher and Healer training.
  11. IMPORTANT! After reading this topic lately a number of people have been sending me PMs asking about any risks of Qi deviation for this practice. They say that they have learned from a number of “Masters” and can’t stop moving/out of control and feel very unwell for a long time. The question is if this practice will also cause those symptoms? Feeling unwell and being out of control ARE symptoms of Qi deviation. Unfortunately some people think it is normal to have these affects whilst moving from one “teacher” to another. By the time they ask if your system can cause Qi deviation they already have had it for a long time without even realising! If you are suffering from these symptoms that your movements are out of control, so bad that you can’t cross a road safely and still ask if a system can cause Qi deviation then you need to stop and look within. Genuine and correctly taught practices don’t cause discomfort, never mind such severe symptoms. I highly advise that such a person should immediately stop all practices. DO NOT even attempt this practice. This practice is NOT a quick fix. In Clinic I have even seen a simple 8 brocade practice go badly wrong in clients with underlying Qi deviation. That is the reason to stop all practices. This practice and many others work great to restore health & vitality but Qi deviation where movements are out of control needs direct intervention. Instead find a good Clinical Qigong Therapist (Wai Qi Liao Fa/外氣療法) or practitioner of Taoist Medicine (Dao Yi 道醫). In severe cases mainstream TCM won’t cut it. P.S. Before someone jumps in to say “see what openly shared instructions can do”. Those rare cases that have been bought up are due to some “Masters” out there NOT from the written instructions here. Of all the Qi deviation I have seen in clinic, it is mostly caused by practitioners of genuine systems who decide to teach when they have not trained as a Teacher. Sudden strong transmission of Qi + not being able to correctly energetically align a person = trouble. Good Teacher or gentle self practice from videos/books/written instructions, equals steady balanced growth.
  12. Favourite qigong system

    Also Dragon Gate Sanctuary is awesome.
  13. Favourite qigong system

    I started with Taoist Ziran (Natural) Qigong. https://www.qigonguk.com/taoist-ziran-natural-qigong Which simply comes down to that I can move my body to perform a Qigong form/movement like a lot of practices or I can fire up my Qi and “it” performs the movement whilst my consciousness hangs around the state between sleep and dreaming (but with complete awareness). The second way is how natural qigong practitioners perform classical forms, generate and then stabilise the vigorous energy flow through Zhang Zhuang and then skilfully harness vigorously energy flow. It opened many doors for me where Masters of other systems took me straight onto advanced practices which some I ended up inheriting. I could never have imagined the path it led me down, in my teens I simply set my life goal to learn Old school Taoist Arts based on Zi Fa Gong (自發動功). Favourite systems: Stillness Movement Neigong, Old school Taoist Arts based on Zi Fa Gong (自發動功) one being Taoist Ziran Qigong, Hua Tuo Spontaneous Five Animal Play, Taoist Shamanism (Wu,巫) and Taoist Internal Martial Arts coming from a Zi Fa Gong (自發動功) approach. Obviously this will sound biased because that’s most of what I teach, but I teach what has delivered results for me and the results I see in my qigong healing hospital style clinic.