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Latest on land slide ; apparently the one lane opening is up against a wall of containers , stacked up and full of rocks as ballast , that are supposed to stop further land slip ... or hold it back ??? I hope they dont do what they did last time ; me complaining '' Yes I realize it is a one lane one way only pass controlled by traffic lights , but why the hell did you put the lights at the bottom of the land slide and have traffic queue up there ... move it down the road away from the cliff so we can stop safely there ! '' - not done of course - that requires 'executive decision ' ( after consultants are bought in ) . and ! where this current landslide was is right where they previously put the stop lights !

India would be the go ! My most recent dentist ( that wants to do implants ... no worries .... ) is Indian . he has a toy Porsche on a shelf, I asked if he likes model cars and he said not really, that was the car he was saving up to buy . Dude ! Dont tell your customers that ! Especially those that had to walk there ! - no shame ! I called him 'Doctor' and he corrected me , but then I said ' No , you are a Doctor of Dentistry ' . he liked that and said YES and puffed up a bit .... I guess I read him right because I offered to tell him an Indian dentist joke and at the end he cracked up . ' An Indian guy wants to be a dentist , he doesnt care what people think , what his family thinks , its what he wants to do ! His parents complain to him , but he says to them ; '' Look ! Its my dream and my passion , its what I want to do , besides, I am your youngest son and surely , already four doctors in one family is enough ! ''

Its bad enough ! When I went to get dentures the dentist seemed rather shocked that I had so many teeth missing and he asked me ; '' Did a dentist remove all those teeth ? '' Me; '' No ... prostitutes did that . '' Him; '' Is that some sort of SM thing ? !! '' Me; ''' Oh no ! Not for me it isn't . It's just that charge a LOT less ! '' I mentioned that to a dentist years back and he seemed to think things were heading that way . . . oh wait , no .... I suggested implants into the gums of dental stem cells so the teeth grow back into the sockets insitu ' .

We could extract them , offer them to demons , in return for luck in betting on horse races . .... but we should not make judgement on her appearance ... that would not be 'nice behavior ' .

... and all this depends on no heavy rain ... at the beginning of the wet season ! The above is the road to the town down valley . The other way 'out' is up the mountain to that town and then inland ... but if it rains heavy ; I dont think I should try to cross that on the motorcycle !

the value of salt and 'smoking' becomes more significant as well ! Fridge is high tech ... more low tech needs to be depended upon . However for example ; I have seondary solar set up, batteries and charging in my workshed for tools ; 'cordless' electric strimmer, blower , chainsaw .... but what if a breakdown ? Enter mate Kyle ; he somehow became an 'elctrowiz' ( even fixed my lap y=top a couple of times ) he started building remote control planes and drones and even making their electronics .... and he has a shed of bits and pieces and spare parts .... that guy could be invaluable if shit hits the fan ! ATM I am STILL impacted by this local landslide .... it could take a year to fix properly .. we have been promised a one way , traffic light control , one lane opening by the end of the month ... but if the workers cant get diesel soon ...... ? Supposedly opening next Wednesday with some promised fuel trucks getting through .

Really ? Are you ugly ? 'I love the ugly boys '

Nah , just having a bit of fun , but I find the art work interesting ; the Chinese style of art depicting well known Christian subjects seems an interesting contrast . Wang Suda 1939 - 41 ; Jesus accused in front of Pilate . Prodigal Son Exorcism https://digital-exhibits.library.nd.edu/c9dfb1b9e1/chinese-catholic-themed-paintings-from-xinxiang-henan-province-1939-1941

Oh yeah ... firehorse year off to a great start ; ax murders ... WWIII ..... ( we running out of farm fuel already in many locations ) . No petrol ... no diesel ..... no gas ...... I got solar and batteries for lights and since . fire horse year ; I already got a huge 'overstock' of fire wood in the big shed ;

I joined a new 'magic' (and related subjects ) forum ... of course I am in trouble there already It is a strange place and although has some worthwhile gems , it has, of course a lot of modern people that think they are learning valid stuff from crappy youtubes and people who claim a lot but also want a lot of money for any 'teachings ' So I try to offer an historical and somewhat academic view on things ..... Oooooooo ... 'unpop ' ! Here is the strange thing ; its full of crap like Vampireism , which is considered a real and valid 'path'. Nowadays it's any magic you use to suck off other people ! Its valid form of 'path' apparently . There is also a post about some crap 'Order' that claims ancient descent from the Welsh Marshes , they use pain and suffering .. or cause it ... to feed it to their demonic entities ... which now days realtes to , apparently , a neo-Nazi consciousness that 'gets off ' on suffering, violence, racism, child pornography ..... and another set of cults in Sth America that the cartels follow , that use the pain and agony of their tortures ... they use for intimidation' , again to offer to their 'Gods' in return for 'services and favors ' . Also they not only seem to turn a bliond eye to outright insults and ad-hominim attacks , they laugh at at it and seem to enjoy it , and dont mod people for that . Then a Christian guy turns up , unrelated to all this and in another subject and first excuses his presence there ; ' I am just curious and I actually like a lot of you guys ' and hits me with some simplistic and ignorance based challenges about the Bible . I responded ... as I do and ... wait for it . I get modded for 'Christian bashing ' and a banner put over my post that I did so .. Obviously ... I am a 'stranger ' there ;

a further note ; my take on this is we are connected to a lot more than just physical forces , however one wants to see it . However they do not usually operate consciously on us . OR (most probably ) they should be , but we fuck ourselves up or become 'preoccupied' with other 'important' things . In any case , they are in a different zone to our normal senses , so when we have an experience , we have a need to understand it and then we cloth it in a combination of our own imaginings and current social contexts of the times we were influenced by when developing our 'tendencies ' (or programs ) .

Most modern images and ideas about angels are supportive and comforting ; '' Noice ! '' But WTF was going on with them in the Bible and we read supposed descriptions of them ?

... now looking Dr VanDusen's observations ; '' ... In my dialogues with patients I learned of two orders of experience, borrowing from the voices themselves, called the higher and the lower order. Lower order voices are as though one is dealing with drunken bums at a bar who like to tease and torment just for the fun of it. They will suggest lewd acts and then scold the patient for considering them. They find a weak point of conscience and work on it interminably ... They invade every nook and cranny of privacy, work on every weakness and credibility, claim awesome powers, lie, make promises and then undermine the patient's will. They never have a personal identity though they accept most names or identities given them... ... In direct contrast stands the rarer higher order hallucinations... He also had a light come to him at night like the sun. He knew it was a different order because the light respected his freedom and would withdraw if it frightened him. In contrast, the lower order worked against his will and would attack if it could see fear in him. This rarer higher order seldom speaks, whereas the lower order can talk endlessly. The higher order is much more likely to be symbolic, religious, supportive, genuinely instructive, and communicate directly with the inner feelings of the patient ... In another instance the higher order appeared to a man as a lovely woman who entertained him while showing him thousands of symbols. Though the patient was a high-school educated gas-pipe fitter, his female vision showed a knowledge of religion and myth far beyond the patient's comprehension. At the end of a very rich dialogue with her (the patient reporting her symbols and responses) the patient asked for just a clue as to what she and I were talking about ... '' (in this instance it seems like a definition of 'Daena Yazata ' ; Daena is a Zoroastrian Yazata (divinity) representing conscience, insight, and religion itself, derived from the Avestan root for "to see". She is personified as a radiant maiden who guides righteous souls across the Chinvat Bridge to heaven, ... she is said to be an 'image of our soul ' ... this seems the same 'energy' that I had 'knowledge and communication' with . .. although the knowledge of and the identification came decades later ) '' ... n general the higher order is richer than the patient's normal experience, respectful of his freedom, helpful, instructive, supportive, highly symbolic and religious. It looks most like Carl Jung's archetypes, whereas the lower order looks like Freud's id. In contrast to the lower order, it thinks in something like universal ideas in ways that are richer and more complex than the patient's own mode of thought. It can be very powerful emotionally and carry with it an almost inexpressible ring of truth. The higher order tends to enlarge a patient's values, something like a very wise and considerate instructor. Some patients experience both the higher and lower orders at various times and feel caught between a private heaven and hell. Many only know the attacks of the lower order. The higher order claims power over the lower order and indeed shows it at times, but not enough to give peace of mind to most patients. ... In contrast, the higher order appeared strangely gifted, sensitive, wise and religious. They did not conceal identity but rather would have an identity above the human. For instance, a lady of the higher order was described as "an emanation of the feminine aspect of the Divine." When I implied she was Divine she took offense. She herself was not divine but she was an emanation of the Divine.'' Which sounds very much like the early description of 'yazata' . * ( from post above this ) see 'stranger things ' thread

No they are not Christian or Abrahamic ... they are Yazata . Why ? Because , to cut through all the accreted crap over the millienia Yazata where first thought to be some type of divine principle of 'goodness ', in various areas , that can influence humans, if they choose, to have a 'good' life ( and one must understand the spiritual , social and personal ideas they had about 'goodness' ). More like 'principles' or 'concepts ' , some relate to 'offices' , some relate to forces in nature . They, in turn, work through the people , in their 'spirit' ; 'mainyu' which actually means 'mind' (unfortunately later the religion evolved away from a type of early 'Buddhist mind science ' and devolved into these concepts meaning 'spirits ' . manifested beings, gods angels, demons etc . ie 'responsibility projected outwards ) and to accept the or turn against them resulted in Mainyu, the spiritual existence, is the co-existent dual opposite of the physical existence, gaetha. It is the non-physical or non-material existence that exists side-by-side with the physical existence. It is what the material existence is not. Mainyu is beyond our senses, though perhaps not beyond our feelings and intuition. Human beings are constituted from both the material and spiritual existences. Our spirit shapes and determines the nature of our attitude, our mentality and every thought, word and deed. Spenta & Angra Mainyu A brilliant, positive, constructive, and beneficent spirit that seeks wisdom is called a spenta mainyu. The archetype and embodiment of spenta mainyu is called ratush, the righteous leader. A gloomy, negative, destructive, and harmful spirit that wishes to remain ignorant is called an angra mainyu. The archetype and embodiment of angra mainyu is called ahriman,

- not anything like Raziel or Asteroth though . I had no idea at the time , it took me decades to , sort of , reverse engineer 'who' it was and what form they were taking ( and the reason for that became very apparent after a fuller examination of my natal chart ) .I am wondering, if in your experience , you can at times 'access' parts of that download information , either by conscious contact with your 'storage facility ' , or by surfacing from the 'unconscious' spontaneously or in times of need ( especially 'dire need' ) ? .....said ; Honestly, thats a cool question, and I dont really have an answer. The downloads were visual and somatic shapes and vibrations. Only a few have been revealed, or unfolded (if that is even the right term for it) but months later. Not the thread for it, but it would be cool to compare notes. Me ; yeah ok, I dont know what to call a thread like that though , if you start one I will contribute . Notify me if you do . For me any 'spirit' ( whatever we might want to classify it as ) is 'safe' depending on their works ( results ) , unfortunately judged in retrospect . However during the process we might be able to discern that . I fully ascribe to Dr VanDusens * clinical observations in that , whether it is regarded as a 'spirit' or 'hallucination', the same 'rules' apply and one is that there are spirits of a 'good order' and a 'bad order' .... obviously the good order is 'safe' and the bad order not ( when one considers the why of the classification ) . * Wilson Van Dusen: The Presence of Spirits in Madness

I have just been having an interesting conversation about that on a different and very strange * forum ( some gem info among a turmoil of crap and modern uncomprehending garbage ! ) . Valid people have had interesting experiences ... at least one other had an experience of a 'download ' I'll put my post from there below ; Same for me ( Your first two sentences ) . After many years I started referring to the process as a 'download ' - after many years, as , when it happened 'downloads' were not invented yet . I remember a beam of white light hitting me in the forehead , a 'white out' , an energy rush into my ' head' , a noise I could not identify except as chaotic, fast and seeming like a series of different soundings bips, clicks, and ' short wave radio static ' ( back then, that was the only thing I could compare it to ) . Apparent time loss , not to me though I thought the whole process took a few seconds but observers said otherwise ; I was standing there staring 'for ages ' and could not hear the people calling to me .Decades later , I grabbed a cassette tape of the shelf and out it in the player ... to my shock that sound ( or something very similar to it ) came out the speakers .... WTF is that ! A flatmate came bolting in (as I had it up loud and it was his sound system ) and asked me what I had done to his sound system and shut it off . I told him what happened and he pulled the tape out and looked at it ; ' No wonder ! ' he said and then explained it was a 'computer tape ' with a program on it .( no I am not making that up ;

Oh ! It appears I celebrated the anniversary without even knowing about it

I forgot to fill in the thread title box .. that must have been the 'tab' ... and 'check values' must mean '' Hey numbnuts , ya forgot to fill in the title box ! ''

I haven't seen this one before .... and never noticed a discussion here on it . Eg Ch 1 If you can talk about it, it ain’t Tao. If it has a name, it’s just another thing. Tao doesn’t have a name. Names are for ordinary things. Stop wanting stuff; it keeps you from seeing what’s real. When you want stuff, all you see are things. Those two sentences mean the same thing. Figure them out, and you’ve got it made.

I just tried again ; it has a few lines of text and 5 images .... I removed a smilie in case that was it .... nope what are ; '' the marked tabs '' and how do I ''check their values '' ?

about 4 hrs ago I tried to make a thread in Abrahamic forum about the difference between how we commonly perceive angels now and what we think they look like , comparing them to images constructed from Biblical accounts . It had several images in it ; I got the notice so went back and looked at the post box , some images didnt show so I removed them, but still would not post and had this red banner at the top . I will try again later

site will not accept a post . what does this mean ? Something went wrong. Check the values provided on the marked tabs and try again

I saw this many moons ago and liked it . But I missed the significance of the Martians ' how to live ' speech 10/10 !