Nungali

And of course , HGA all goes back to .... guess who? Plato again

It is the time of year when barrier between the worlds is 'thinnest' , hence ; Halloween, Samhain, The Feast of the Dead, All Saints Day, All Souls Day, etc. Its association with death and communication with the otherworld (divination) was considered most important in tribal non-equatorial/temperate cultures; coming into winter one has to discern how harsh this winter is going to be and , accordingly, how much of the herd breeding stock is to be killed and eaten and how much is taken over to re-breed in spring. This was usually done by the Shaman, in trance and communion with the ancestors (divination) and was a time of death (animal slaughter and preservation of food). Getting the winter intensity insight wrong and messing up the numbers could mean the death of the tribe in winter or a missed opportunity to get ahead next spring with a larger herd. {And we all know the best way to 'butter up the relatives is to ply them with food, drink and praise ... hence the feast of the dead ... well, there is also genuine acknowledgement and appreciation as well .}

. "While the forged "grimoires" produced by the clergy prosecutors wove lurid tales of the boiled fat of a child as the central ingredient of the flying potion, the reality is that the concoction was based on easily available herbs such as aconite, nightshade, belladonna, alcohol, and of course, ergot. The clergy, eager to so horrify the masses (to remove all resistance to the abuses of the Inquisition), cast all witches as a threat to the children. This myth of using a child's fat for a flying potion has no basis in historical fact, but persists to this very day, and was used as a story element in the film, "Warlock"." Sorry ... although that may be technically correct ... I wish it was right ... terrible things still happen to children in Africa in relation to witches and children ... and of course terrible things happen to 'witches' that are accused of terrible things. - Remember the recent {enough} case of the young African boy's body parts found in the UK and the analysis of his stomach contents just prior to his death. ..

Because there witches ride chopsticks .... so obvious!

Who knows ... but 'modern human' includes their influence. If 1 - 4 % is average inclusion I wonder what the highest individual rate is? ... maybe we ate them ... or maybe one day we just ... a ...ahhhh Aahhh CHOOO! - excuse me!

Oh yes ... it works very well on the physical level with things like pain as well. Many days I have are filled with physical pain ( from a variety of conditions ... I rarely take painkillers (much to the annoyance of my doctor ... anyone would think he gets a commision on it ) but most of the time I function quiet well and seem happier and at peace a lot more than many people I know who seem to be leading lives that 93% of the population would absolutly envy.

Rainbow serpent dreaming

In my, now converted to everyday awareness, 'religous practice' I 'own nothing'. What am I but receptor organs for my creator and Goddess; Nuit? I exist so she may gain expereince in the world of physical incarnation, therfore all experience pain and pleasure, complete fulfillment and an empty heart howling at the Moon are all hers. Amidst the canyons of the heart the winged serpent flies ... around the stone of the heart the serpent is coiled. One is flashing rainbow hued, the other green. Green has two phases; one can be likened to Venus and a heart encurled by Venus is what many experience, when Venus rises up to the 'heart' directly it can be a problem (Venus : veneres : venom : poison : a magic philtre / potion : hormones - very hard to resist a 'poision' and hence the heart CAN be encirled in a restrictive manner considering the position of Venus in the 'Psychological Tree'. The other side of the green snake (perhaps what Crowley writes about) can be seen in the context of 'glittering green' the colour of the robes worn by 'Kidur' the Sufi '(apparitional master' and 'guide') ... who in true Mercurial fashion (with the elemnt of the trickster ... or by 'riddle') points the way. In this aspect Venus passes through Mercurius (hence becoming the Rainbow Serpent) ... which is the correct and modulated path for Venus (or Mars) to approach the Heart / Sun / Ego. From there it rises, to eventually complete the cycle that started it all; from the 'heavenly black snake' (Wallenganda - the dark middle of the Milky Way) that spat her water upon all of us which created the great dream of existance. (see creation myths of Austrailan Rainbow Sepent and Book of the Law : II : 26.

Literal intrpretation of 'The 'Law' of Karma' , especially in the west certainly doesnt ,balance out the perversion that humanity can sink to (worse than the animals, as they say... when it happens) IMO What? idi Amin has X x 1000 lives to complete yet that are full of cosmic retribution towards him? For me if something is "hard to believe in' ... perhaps something is wrong with my interpretation of it ?

I, for one, am thankfull. And also give to thanks to the other 'species' {a friendly 'rib' Marblehead } in that ... like my friend says, who owns his own very successful buisness whose wife works out the tax' "I would probably be in jail if not for her". I have a young relative who is 'autistic' she appears to be playing phrases of classical piano music on her keyboard ... but never 'taught' to.

I guess a 'banned technician in the illuminti' can

Good luck ... one of the things we have to consider here is the absolute devistation of Okinawan culture, martial arts, rare books and teachers and masters of traditions that resulted from the invasion of Okinawa in WWII.

Yes ... I believe this is so and it cannot happen with out this ... it just isnt one thing- what you eat, or how you think. It is many things and what you mention may be first. Also for somehting like this to occur one must consider (and be in the position of) , as the Sufi's say; Right people, right place, right time .... and , perhaps 7 other things ?

Okay ... I will give it an uninformed shot. Truth is relative (IMO) so to be decived is to be decived about how 'relative natures' relate to each other (the 'Form behind the Forms'?) Knowing what the truth is , is to understand the relative (how things relate to each other) nature of things. I think this is important in Platonics ... to see things in their relationship to each other .... not as seperate entities containing their own form (that seems Aristotlian to me).

I thought it would have been obvious that what I posted was from Google and not my own research. I mean, I didnt even change the format. It is to show the most popular current views. Yet you seemed to have attributed all of that to me and claim that I am smarter for quoting the people than the people I quote I am presenting the other side as A side of the story, not THE side of the story .... but then again I dont identify as Indian, Aryan, Chinese, or Persian ... so I am bound to be biased. However I am slightly swayed towrds Yulaw in post 126 <thumbsup>

Ephedera .... Indra was a speed freak. THAT type of elixiir certainly didnt migrate to China and form the type of Elixir there.

It seems to work on a highly symbolic/visual/pattern/image level rather than words or lineal progressions. It is good for things like Nicloa Tesla 'Inventing' the electric dymano. The other system is good for things like .... like .... hmmmm ... accounting and economic rationalism ???.

If they didnt have the same vocal skills they apparently had other skills, perhaps this is where we inherited our 'right hemisphere' from (that works and communicates primarily via imagary and other non-verbal means ... see studies on 'savant autism '

Who were the first to paint bones with Ochre (which means a rite of sub-exhumation ... a series of death rites ... one cant paint bones without them being exposed first), place goods in graves ...ritual burial ... <postulates> and introduce symbology, creativity, art and reception of the 'other world' into 'us humans' by breeding with other types. ??? IE .....

Curious. One may notice (looking to the left) that I myself am a lizard. Under my floor of the cabin (right under the hearth) is a lizard 'congregation node' (on the physical plane), on the 'non-(entirely)physical' plane it is the entrance to a tunnel, which connects to many others (with nodes of 'quantum jump off points' that connect to 'quantum receptor' points). The tunnels were made by snakes but lizards guard them. Do I give them 'real, hard, literanist, everyday, meet-a-person-in-the-street, western materialist rationalist' validity? Of course not! Do the indigenous give them the same ? Of course not! Would I bother to try to prove their existance in that same realm? No ? ... what for? Can that ''Daimonic Reality" 'interpenetrate' into the 'Mundane reality; yes it can ... but in a different way. [ Goanna is my friend (or if you like totem - at avery young age I was introduced to him when an Aboriginal Man {at a snake and reptile show] realised my connection and placed on on top of my head ... tourists freaked out ... Australians laughed thinking it was a joke ... the Aborigmal man, me ... and the lizard knew different ... we were bot very comfortible with each other and stayed there until the Man removed him). My girlfriend at the time didnt like them. She didnt like the spot and got freaked out about me as she had 'strange' dream about me being under the house with goannas in a cave doing 'things' with them, I turned and saw here and angrily shouted "Get out!". She told me later as a small girl she was scared of them, they used to sunbake on the concrete path that led to the family thunder box (ourside dunny / toilet - thunder lizard guarding thunder box ) It got too much eventually for her (she who purported to be a magician and witch !) when she went outside to see what the noise was and there was Gungali amidst the pulled apart garbage (as she left the lid off the bin) happily chewing away on one of her old thrown out tampons. ... they used to tease her ferociously (as all deamonic entities do that do not get proper acknowledgment .] Xrays, plans ... physical evidence ??? A rare and unusuall person might be able to 'catch a faerie in the gloaming' and shut him in an iron cage ... but in the morning he will be gone ... as they say..."vanished into thin air" . Why do us westerners have the need to try and PROOVE on the material planes that such things exist? I see it as fault in our perception ... a sickness actually. But hey! Thanks for posting the story!

That's is right ... but how can I be replying if you did not say it. I did not reply .. I implied ... I implied you are smarter than you were pretending to be,

silly humour aside I agree with you. Why is the bottom of picture blurred? ( No ... of course you wouldn't know that ? ...maybe he is holding an unrolled scroll with formula for secret immortality pills.)

"Regime spanking line does not mesh very soon " Damn! I sorta suspected I was tying to mesh it too soon ... I should kick myself for not putting " 'the image of love and not love Genki likened candle store location" ahead of that. Last time I get on a spanking line! Obviously I wont have a long life.

Oh ... you have nice Armani suit ? or just an Italian accent ? Hmmm .... just like the Neo-Platonists ...

It arrived today Only had a flick through so far. Good company ... book produced nicely ... only the cheaper ones left, the expensive ones must be excellent quality. Got here quick ( I thought ), sturdily packed and when I opened it nicely wrapped in tissue paper like a birthday present .... black tissue paper ... house mate goes ; Ooooo spookey!