The Magick of Abramelin

[stirling]

An interesting discussion of the movie "A Dark Song" and its working of the Abramelin ritual, a book on the Abramelin ritual and the movie itself, and a number of well-known (in the magick world) people who have attempted or completed the ritual.

 

 

https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep336-the-magick-of-abramelin-duncan-barford-3

 

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Wish there were more details about how the HGA appears to those who have been successful and finished, but I'll probably buy the book anyway. 

[Nungali]

just from the trailer , this seems more like a movie about 'certain types' that either use magic for (or are not ready to use it and fall into this trap)  manipulation and control of other people in the ritual  to base ends . 

 

Its a big one that .   I have had experience with it in that  a close friend who was offered all sorts of things including being the new 'head' of the 'group ' ended up being required to do all sorts of weird , kinky , sadistic,   etc  'stuff'   ( which of course was purely for 'magical purposes' and  ' tests '      )

 

and also personally in that  keeping tabs on any such energy arising in myself *   and also being appointed to keep an eye on other  groups (in our organisation )  and report to HQ any evidence of same . 

 

* in such a position sometimes this arises in others that seem to have a 'need ' to experience this 'dominance'  .....   but that was not the 'business' we were in ... there are other places they can go to for  that .  

 

( people used to say our group had orgies ... no we dont !     -  dammit !   )

 

( In that regard I didnt watch the vid beginning but came in at the discussion of the  ritual itself .... I like the way the guy started off ; first this a ritual about 'getting rich'  ... like I often say ... it has base ends   and it and some  associated practices  and rituals  are  hodge podge 'old'  mistranslated  and even  totally unsuitable sources   ( like a fragmentary Greek exorcism being used to invoke the HGA ) . 

 

[Nungali]

- in any case I suppose a follow up discussion could be on 

 

01:37:16 - Questioning pragmatic dharma assumptions and the vogue of stream entry

[Apech]

I’ve downloaded the Dehn translation (as well as the Mathers) and am reading it slowly.  I used to know someone who did the six month version - although they weren’t very forthcoming about the results.  I get the impression that there is an authentic core … but also quite a lot of dodgy stuff re magic squares for strange purposes.

 

I was struck by the idea that it is a kind of western ngondro ( which ends with guru yoga which could be compared to the HGA).  Interesting.  
 

 

[Lairg]

William Bloom took months with the Abramelin process.   He told me it was successful but not worth the effort

 

https://www.amazon.com.au/Sacred-Magician-Ceremonial-Diary/dp/0906362180

Edited 3 hours ago by Lairg