What is meant by God of Abraham?

[Haribol]

The term, it seems to me, seems to suggest both the existence of other gods than the only monotheistic god that their mainstream theology argue for, and why does it belong to Abraham more than Xi Jing, William and brother Innocent?

[Lairg]

Assuming the Bible to be Jewish in origin - here is the JPS translation

 

 

When the Most High gave to the nations

When He separated the children of men,

He set the borders of the peoples

According to the number of the children of Israel.

9For the portion of the LORD is His people,

Jacob the lot of His inheritance.

 https://biblehub.com/jps/deuteronomy/32.htm

 

So the Lord inherited only the people of Jacob and apparently jealously kept his few humans

 

The term "Most High" derives from the Sumerian "Ilu" that means both tall and god

 

The gods did not stop growing as they aged so the most senior god was the tallest - the most high

 

 

 

Edited Monday at 08:52 PM by Lairg

[Sanity Check]

They could say.

 

God of Adam.

 

Or.

 

God of Noah.

 

But people wouldn't recognize the connection.

 

So they say: God of Abraham.

 

And people nod and say ah, I know which God you speak of.

[Nungali]

5 hours ago, Haribol said:

The term, it seems to me, seems to suggest both the existence of other gods than the only monotheistic god that their mainstream theology argue for, and why does it belong to Abraham more than Xi Jing, William and brother Innocent?

 

The God of Abraham ... and his descendants  .   A  family God  that went on to other things  ...... and apparently grew really really 'tall' . 

 

 

and the winner is  .... 

 

 

 

Ushiku Daibutsu !  

 

You just won the  (world's tallest )  trophy  !  

 

 

[Haribol]

@Lairg

 

so if not the Jews didn’t write it, who did? And who are the children of man and the children of god?

[Lairg]

Abraham was from Sumer.  The Jewish Book of Genesis contains a cut down version of the Sumerian account.  In the Sumerian account you can read why god refers to itself as "we"

 

The earliest known manuscript version of the OT is newer than the oldest manuscript version of the NT.

 

In the Middle Ages there was a major industry in discovering ancient writings, translating them, and losing the original.  Fortunately the Renaissance Man/Woman was of such a spiritual caliber that the inventions were often worthy of the alleged author

 

Read Anatoly Fomenko for a statistical analysis showing which histories are invented from which realities. 

 

https://www.amazon.com.au/stores/author/B0032J096G

 

Free versions:

https://archive.org/search?query=anatoly+fomenko&and[]=mediatype%3A"texts"

  

> who are the children of man and the children of god?

 

In the Sumerian account, the aliens bred the human slaves from their own genetics crossed with a hominoid already on the planet.  The humans turned out to be noisy and hard to manage, so the Sumerian aliens bred an upgraded human with more alien genetics to control the slaves.  

 

The upgraded humans are traditionally known as royalty - directly descended from the gods.  There has been much interbreeding since then, so royal blood may not mean much now.

 

Details of the genetic failures can be found in the Sumerian accounts.   The hard work shows in the Jewish Genesis where every time the god makes something, he looks at it and sees that/if it is good

 

Perhaps 12 other alien groups have had a go at  breeding humans more suited to their agendas.   WW2 was the latest macro attempt.   These days the processes are nano-scale

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 11:36 PM by Lairg

[Nungali]

On 11/27/2025 at 8:08 AM, Haribol said:

@Lairg

 

so if not the Jews didn’t write it, who did? And who are the children of man and the children of god?

 

Which Bible ?  There is the Jewish Bible , that Jews obviously wrote  *   and the   Christian Bible  with Old and New Testaments , that was 'collated' by various people and processes . 

 

* Lairg seems confused that although the Jews adopted many stories in the Jewish Bible , they ( the Jews ) actually re wrote, adapted and collated them into  the Jewish Bible  - so of course, the Jews * wrote the Jewish Bible ... but they didnt come up with the  original versions for many of the adopted/ collated  stories . 

 

-   Josiah's scribes  seem the culprits  .... they 'found'   the 'Torah ' in the  Temple they were rebuilding  . However the Bible stories might have been known and built upon throughout the whole area  in a non oral tradition  dating from the 10thC BC up to 100 CE. The text compiled between the 8th and 6th C BC with current redaction 6th to 5th BC using the stories like David and King Solomon and a Unified  Jewish state  ( back written to make a fake history ) by Josiah's scribes , before he made a move to  go north and claim Israel   ( after it had been weakened by invasion for punishment due to rebellion ,   and then retreat of Assyrians ) as rightful as it was being claimed now as part of the old Unified Kingdom .  The plan did not work , on the ground, though - for him . He ran into Pharaoh  who was on his way north to quell the Babylonians  and tried to oppose him .... and got shot full of arrows . 

 

The story however became a great success , soon everyone believed it , resulting in the formation of Jewish monotheism ( ie  Judaism ) Christianity and Islam  and was considered a valid source of world history up to the 1880s ... and still for some today , fully, or in subtle ways not many are aware of  in themselves . ... to me, it seems the biggest con job in history !