Haribol Posted October 24 Wondering to put this here on in the Christian forum, but since Paul said it perfectly, and there is nothing to substract or add to it, I’ll just share it here: Quote 13 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteriesand all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[b] but do not have love, I gain nothing. 4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhoodbehind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face.Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. 13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 13&version=NIV 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted Saturday at 01:20 PM Imo, one of the most beautiful passages of the bible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Foote Posted Monday at 12:22 AM (edited) On 10/24/2025 at 10:54 AM, Surya said: Wondering to put this here on in the Christian forum, but since Paul said it perfectly, and there is nothing to substract or add to it, I’ll just share it here: Quote 13 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteriesand all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing. 4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhoodbehind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face.Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. 13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 13&version=NIV Similarly, Bart D. Ehrman, in “The New Testament: A Historical Introduction”, notes that the Corinthian congregation faced numerous issues involving interpersonal conflicts and ethical improprieties. He states: “The congregation that Paul addresses appears to have been riddled with problems involving interpersonal conflicts and ethical improprieties. His letter indicates that some of its members were at each other’s throats, claiming spiritual superiority over one another.” (Marko Marina, Ph.D., Exploring 1 Corinthians: Authorship, Summary, and Dating) Always good to understand the context. I'm always floored by the assumption that everyone understands what "love" is. Paul gives characteristics, but if love is a feeling and a person doesn't feel it, the question is how do they regain it (love, that is)? Edited Monday at 12:23 AM by Mark Foote 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted Monday at 01:35 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Mark Foote said: … if love is a feeling and a person doesn't feel it, the question is how do they regain it (love, that is)? An excellent question, says grumpy old me. Here’s me: https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/55030-stranger-things/?do=findComment&comment=1066476 Seriously, it depends on your belief system, e.g. Soto Zen meditation. RC prayer. Edited Monday at 01:51 AM by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites