mindtooloud Posted Saturday at 12:22 PM i visited India and from what I understood marijuana is a part of the culture and religion but i didn't fully understand how it ties to it, does anyone have any insight on this topic they could share. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted Sunday at 09:52 PM Its part of most cultures . Especially those associated with I.E.s and as they migrated into India it was one of the things they found there as well . But apparently India did not offer them ephedra ( ingredient for Soma ) as they lamented its loss . As a native herb it was used in medicine . Its no big mystery ... the Indians used it as most do, as a medicine for various things and for its property to counteract anxiety . It is associated with Shiva " Unfortunately, some people mislead Lord Shiva by picturizing him as smoking pot and consuming a Bhang (cannabis). I entirely agree by people associating Shiva with a Bhang, but the question is why he is related to it? Cannabis is one of the most sacred plants, and it is written in the fourth Veda that it relieves anxiety. Thus, being a sacred plant, it is used as a spiritual and religious plant. Moreover, during the ‘Samundra Manthan’, a lethal poison named ‘Halahal’ was released, which was so poisonous that it could end the entire creation. To avoid that to happen, Lord Shiva consumed whole poison on his own and later to cool him down, gods offered him Bhang (cannabis). So, if you are consuming it over his name then always remember he also exemplifies a trademark of qualities as well, be it giving utmost respect to his wife (Shakti/Parvati Maa), generosity, mellowed, wearing a tiger skin (not precious pieces of jewellery as other gods are depicted in mythological books) implies his simplicity, and whatnot. " Now, one might ask what is this 'poison' that afflicts us , that it is a remedy for and for which we have specific receptors . ( Note ' To cool him down ' - chill out man ) . But that is another and longer topic . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigSkyDiamond Posted yesterday at 08:19 AM (edited) On 6/14/2025 at 5:22 AM, mindtooloud said: i visited India and from what I understood marijuana is a part of the culture and religion but i didn't fully understand how it ties to it, does anyone have any insight on this topic they could share. "Cannabis, heroin, and Indian-produced pharmaceutical drugs are the most frequently abused drugs in India. Cannabis products, often called charas, bhang, or ganja, are abused throughout the country because it has attained some amount of religious sanctity because of its association with some Hindu deities. The epidemic of substance abuse in young generation has assumed alarming dimensions in India." ---from this article, Substance Abuse in India Pravara Medical Review, published by the Pravar Institute of Medical Sciences in India Edited yesterday at 08:20 AM by BigSkyDiamond Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 21 hours ago Since, for some reason , you listed other drugs as well .... you left out the number 1 abused drug . https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC443486/ https://www.jagrutirehab.org/what-are-the-most-abused-drugs-in-india.html https://socialjustice.gov.in/writereaddata/UploadFile/Survey Report.pdf all cite alcohol as Number 1 abused drug . Then again ... what is the definition of 'abused' , is it something that harms you or something you do the government says you should not do ? Guy gets rid of his possessions , devotes himself to Shiva , sits in the street begging and smoking a chillum - non abuse . Another guy holds down a job, pays tax , gets involved in community but has some anxiety ... after work he sits down for a little relaxing puff .... abuse ! - things are different in India . - Not stoned, 'worshiping ' . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigSkyDiamond Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 33 minutes ago, Nungali said: Then again ... what is the definition of 'abused' , is it something that harms you or something you do the government says you should not do ? Guy gets rid of his possessions , devotes himself to Shiva , sits in the street begging and smoking a chillum - non abuse . Another guy holds down a job, pays tax , gets involved in community but has some anxiety ... after work he sits down for a little relaxing puff .... abuse ! - things are different in India . - Not stoned, 'worshiping ' . maybe a good place to start is to actually know what substance abuse and addiction actually are. so they are not conflated or confused with "worship" or "what the government says to do" addiction and substance abuse are the same whether they occur in India or somewhere else in the world. Just like the flu is the same or cancer is the same anywhere in the world. Because human antatomy and physiology and disease and illness appear in and affect human bodies regardless of the country where those human bodies happen to be residing. Edited 20 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 20 hours ago I already know and that's why I wrote what I did . and aside from this obscure diversion ... You left out alcohol ! Why is that ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 20 hours ago Substance abuse is different from substance use . Abuse is when a society has members using a substance beyond what they were previously 'acclimatized' to and out of the range of those associated benefits to a society . If I take peyote it can be considered part of substance abuse , if a member of the American native church does it in a ceremony it isn't substance abuse . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 20 hours ago In any case , this is about the cultural and religious uses of the substance in India . I don't know why you felt the need to start talking about legality and abuse of substances in India ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigSkyDiamond Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 54 minutes ago, Nungali said: Substance abuse is different from substance use . Abuse is when a society has members using a substance beyond what they were previously 'acclimatized' to and out of the range of those associated benefits to a society . If I take peyote it can be considered part of substance abuse , if a member of the American native church does it in a ceremony it isn't substance abuse . no. that is not what substance abuse is. Substance abuse and addiction are not determined by religion or society or geography or culture or ethnicity or government or laws or acclimation. It is determined by medical and healthcare profession. That's why research and findings from medical community are more credible than personal opinion or groups that favor and promote the use of psychotropics. it is relevant to the thread topic which is marijuana, hinduism, india. There is a correlation between the substance abuse problem in India and the use of psychotropic substances as part of the culture and religious practice in India. They are very much related and on topic for the opening post. Edited 19 hours ago by BigSkyDiamond Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 12 hours ago Except for the number 1 abused drug - you left that out of the above 'reason' . I'd ask what the medical difference between me taking peyote and a native American taking it is ... except now I know I won't be getting ANY straight answers . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites