Demonology. Why focus on the negative?

[Apotheose]

So, as I’ve been studying christian demonology for a few years now, I still can’t help but to think that it is an absolute waste of time. Reason why I’m planning to quit it for good.

 

Why study demons when you can avoid “them” if you sustain a healthy and balanced way of living life?

 

Of course, you can definitely “encounter” “demons” if you cultivate extreme opinions and identity yourself with strong worldviews, hence the karmic-educational nature of life.

 

But why would an actual mystic —who practices under a legit organization or tradition— would spend his time studying in detail such a negative field which, by the way, actually leads to nowhere?

 

In fact, all demons are representations of something, and the Holy Bible is on point, since there are no random demons. However, isn’t it more productive to improve your spiritual experience through “taking the correct path” instead of “avoiding the wrong paths”?

 

(Obviously) The study of demonology, because of its very nature, tends to be sought after by teens and young adults, which is justified. But why would an adult mystic —who likely knows the allegorical implications of its study— think he would find so much answers in its study?

 

Have they forgotten the meaning of John 1:5?

”And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not”.

[Ascetic]

Well, there's a lot you can learn and improve about yourself when studying Demons. Its effectively a study of lifeforms that lack more than we do, as a side effect of being raised in Hell and all.

While approaching issues and problems as demonic taint is certainly a faster character growth than any emotional separation. It's honestly rewarding to be able to blame Demons for things, better than always rolling up your sleeves. While it seems evil and perhaps chaotic, it is to me more efficient than any other ways of thinking.

We're so used to having to blame ourselves all the time, but rarely does someone who knows a lot about Demons actually find the space to ever blame themselves for anything. It's always a Demon that causes problem, and that conviction is freedom of its own kind.

Understanding of Demons will also translate very clearly to any actual talent for Magic. Now of course if someone isn't interested in Magic a lot of Demonology becomes useless, but Demonology isn't just for magic, it's also how most people should learn etiquette.

Even if Demonology is only used for the banishing of Demons, any subtle understanding will turn even the corpses of Imaginary Demons into Real Wealth. The value of Runes alone on a Demon is often more than what most gain after a lifetime of meditation. The merit of harvesting Runes from Demons alone is enough for me to consider Demonology worthwhile.

When I don't know how to draw a Rune even, I don't study manuscripts, no, instead I shuffle through Demons.

[Neirong]

16 hours ago, Apotheose said:

But why would an actual mystic —who practices under a legit organization or tradition— would spend his time studying in detail such a negative field which, by the way, actually leads to nowhere?

 

Who told you it leads nowhere? It is extremely rewarding field of self-cultivation.
 

16 hours ago, Apotheose said:

The study of demonology

The demonology is very much like biology, but instead of studying elementals of life (animals and various  "life" forms), it examines creatures from other worlds.

 

16 hours ago, Apotheose said:

So, as I’ve been studying christian demonology for a few years now, I still can’t help but to think that it is an absolute waste of time. Reason why I’m planning to quit it for good.

 

Why study demons when you can avoid “them” if you sustain a healthy and balanced way of living life?

 

Why do people train in martial arts and develop their bodies if they never plan to fight on the street?
 

Security based on skill and ability, rather than chance or luck, is a key reason. Also, it improves your health, well-being and productivity in life.

I know of many cases where people were parasitized and victimized by otherworldly entities (demons) without even realizing it was happening. It is easy to fall into a trap and have your entire life consumed or drained by entities, without the host ever becoming aware of it.

The consequences of being "eaten" may not be as dramatic as depicted in movies but can be as common as depression, anxiety disorders, eating disorders, fatigue, and an inability to think clearly or enjoy life. If you cannot resist and protect your energy and mind from external influences, you will inevitably become prey.

Remember the scene in The Matrix where humans are kept in capsules and their energy is siphoned off by another civilization?

Edited 11 hours ago by Neirong

[Nungali]

20 hours ago, Apotheose said:

So, as I’ve been studying christian demonology for a few years now, I still can’t help but to think that it is an absolute waste of time. Reason why I’m planning to quit it for good.

 

Why study demons when you can avoid “them” if you sustain a healthy and balanced way of living life?

 

Of course, you can definitely “encounter” “demons” if you cultivate extreme opinions and identity yourself with strong worldviews, hence the karmic-educational nature of life.

 

But why would an actual mystic —who practices under a legit organization or tradition— would spend his time studying in detail such a negative field which, by the way, actually leads to nowhere?

 

In fact, all demons are representations of something, and the Holy Bible is on point, since there are no random demons. However, isn’t it more productive to improve your spiritual experience through “taking the correct path” instead of “avoiding the wrong paths”?

 

(Obviously) The study of demonology, because of its very nature, tends to be sought after by teens and young adults, which is justified. But why would an adult mystic —who likely knows the allegorical implications of its study— think he would find so much answers in its study?

 

Have they forgotten the meaning of John 1:5?

”And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not”.

 

There are many reasons that are valid , but I assume they are beyond you .

 

And if one is going to study this , I would not recommend 'Christian demology' at all . 

 

No wonder you got a biased education on it ! 

[Nungali]

4 hours ago, Neirong said:

 

Who told you it leads nowhere?

 

 

 

The Christians . But they should not have ... they should have said it leads to hell and eternal damnation  ! 

 

  

 

 

4 hours ago, Neirong said:

 

 

It is extremely rewarding field of self-cultivation.
 

The demonology is very much like biology, but instead of studying elementals of life (animals and various  "life" forms), it examines creatures from other worlds.

 

And that is without examining the whole historical concept  and understanding of the term  .  I guess the Christina demonologists left that bit out ? 

 

4 hours ago, Neirong said:

 

Why do people train in martial arts and develop their bodies if they never plan to fight on the street?

 

Ya never know .... walking down the street one day and ..... 

 

Dr Wilson Van Dusen in his article 'Presence of spirits in madness ' observes that  psychiatric patients that complain of possession or similar conditions are often previously 'normal people like me and you ' that have a strange event 'happen to them ' ... you need not have a history of 'psychosis' .

 

and of course, as you hint, there a variety of other reasons  to study as well .

 

 

 

[Neirong]

1 hour ago, Nungali said:

The Christians . But they should not have ... they should have said it leads to hell and eternal damnation  ! 

 

No wonder , people who make a living by telling others how they should live and think, would not be interested in anyone learning to think by themselves. It is common among religions to just label magic as evil practice, satan or shaitan occultism.

Magic is akin to science, involving the exploration of reality and the pursuit of truth.
During the medieval era, religious authorities often persecuted scientists and brilliant minds, through burning or torture.
 

1 hour ago, Nungali said:

Ya never know .... walking down the street one day and ..... 

 

Dr Wilson Van Dusen in his article 'Presence of spirits in madness ' observes that  psychiatric patients that complain of possession or similar conditions are often previously 'normal people like me and you ' that have a strange event 'happen to them ' ... you need not have a history of 'psychosis' .

 

and of course, as you hint, there a variety of other reasons  to study as well .

 

One benefit of studying and practicing magic is the development of mental resilience and protective layers. A person living an entirely mundane life without any exposure to cultivation faces a much higher risk of accidentally going insane, becoming possessed, or losing their mind and sanity. In contrast, those like myself and peers in magic, who regularly venture into dangerous realms, interact with spirits, and engage in astral battles, are better safeguarded.

[Apotheose]

I’m into Magic too, and the kind of Magic I practice is that of the Heart. And that leads me to disagree with some of your points like [by Ascetic] (i) “The value of Runes alone on a Demon is often more than what most gain after a lifetime of meditation” and [by Neirong] (ii) “If you cannot resist and protect your energy and mind from external influences, you will inevitably become prey”.

Respectfully, believing that external forces can takeover your wellbeing when your have a strong enough inner conversation is a excessively bold idea IMO. I don’t know if any of you are into christian mysticism, but that premise, in and of itself, entirely contradicts the Holy Bible (John 1:5 being maybe the best example of it). Runes are not needed, neither is resisting maleficent external sources of information, if you truly are a source of Light.

 

In general, I see that (christian) practices like Magic and Theurgy come from a very strong premise that “outer” things can never takeover one’s “inner” state if the latter is of Light. Hence the hermeneutical exegesis of “taking the correct path” instead of “avoiding the wrong paths”. No need to occupy yourself with “not doing wrong things” when you could just be “doing the right things”.

 

Of course demonology can be informative to someone who is suffering from anger, depression or anxiety, but first we need to address the compulsory karmic nature of life. There’s no “occasional” anger or depression as well as there’s no “random” demons. For every action there is a proportional educative compensation. So, if one happens to reap what he’d sowed, it will be his own inner atributes that will be responsible for putting him on the right tracks again.

 

In my opinion, the best way to protect yourself from external waves of negative “outsiders” is to cultivate a healthy inner world, which of course is attainable through Magic — and not through the practical or theoretical approaches of demonology.