Compendium - Illuminated Initiate

[Compendium]

I am Compendium

I am a male from northern Australia

I am joining this forum primarily to respond to a particular thread I found in a Google search, of someone speaking of their experiences with (what appears to be) self-initiation, by way of the knowledge offered by those such as golden dawn

For the most part, there seem to be very few people or sources online who have a genuine understanding of what happens within initiation

I was rather surprised to find someone on this forum with very specific understanding

Enough to want to join, to speak with them

I want to share some of my own understanding as an Illuminated initiate, in hope it may help them, or any others in future

Whilst also expanding my own understanding, by correlating alternate paths of initiation others have experienced

I may also, in future, post a thread sharing esoteric understanding, if there are any here interested in reading and knowing

Thank you for providing this space for sharing

Compendium

[Cobie]

@Compendium welcome to the forum. 

 

Re. the esoteric, I refer you to @Nungali

 

 

Re.  @helpfuldemon , he is no longer on the forum (permanently banned). But you may be able to find him on Facebook:

 

 

Edited December 25, 2023 by Cobie

[Nungali]

Hi Compendium .

 

I hope I am the one you refer to and seek .  And not another , who although wrote a lot about it , it was unfortunately giving  , self projected , uneducated, unbalanced   and confused , often psychotic  'advice' .    To make things worse, some others  supported him and went on the attack against me for pointing that out .  I will point out any danger I see like that ... its just how I am .

 

My focus on this is two fold ; for personal development and  'academia '  ... meaning I have experience in both 'the armchair'  (theory and study within academia ;  'cultural anthropology' ) and  'in the field' ( personal experience)  .   I have gone through both;  (some of ) the initiations within a 'western mystery school ' and so called 'self initiation' in another system  and association with others  that have done similar .  I have had a  'shamanic' teacher in indigenous traditions  as well ( but no personal  'initiation' within that tradition ).

 

I have studied various systems of initiation across time and location .

 

This may not be the best place to converse and most people here may not be interested in it .   Perhaps PM is a better way of communicating here ?    Most initiation systems are a 'closed' system anyway  and thats to protect traditions from invasions, criticisms and gossips ... unbalanced people trying to put others off and a whole range of other crap people seem to want to do to interfere in someone else's process  .... 

 

However I can understand why you came here and posted .   I tried that once on a specifically devoted forum to such subjects , and thought  their interests where in the same area as mine ..... I didnt even join up after reading a few pages . It was shocking !  It seemed that admin had abandoned the site , the chief and seemingly only moderator was an absolute egotistical ass  with a little collection of supporting acolytes , and he came down on any one that had a variant opinion to him /them  and although a forum supposedly about western magical tradition , the mod claimed to be some type of superior chef and most of their arguments where about food ; after reading  a few pages of the mod and his mates pile onto some guy of variant opinion to them about truffles  (of all things ! )  I never went back .

 

The other person here that I know  who has experience and valid study in this field (in the past, his focus now seems on the eastern traditions )  is Donald ; aka

 

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/forum/370-zhongyongdaoist/

 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

Ooooo !

 

I see else where it IS  'Helpful Demon'   that you seek .

 

Okay .... good luck ! 

 

 

[Cobie]

@Nungali sorry if my post above was confusing. I thought the OP would benefit more from interaction with you (rather than helpfuldemon).

 

 

Edited December 25, 2023 by Cobie

[Compendium]

55 minutes ago, Nungali said:

Ooooo !

 

I see else where it IS  'Helpful Demon'   that you seek .

 

Okay .... good luck ! 

 

 

 

Hi Nungali and Cobie 👋

 

Pleasure to meet you both,

 

I am happy to speak and learn with anyone, who is happy to do the same with myself

 

Yes it was helpfuldemon I joined to find

 

But it is because I saw they needed help. Something very specific, I may be able to offer them

 

It is a pity to see that they are banned. But I can understand the types of confrontation they likely brought out

 

The hostility you speak of, is part in parcel of a particular process of polarity, that I was looking to help them with

 

Within Illumination, we isolate ourselves if/when we go through this process, because it is self-destructive by design and nature

 

Certain people who would question everything (including the questioning itself) who peer beyond the veil in any way, find themselves locked in a struggle with a polarised image of self. A reflection of divinity, which can not be met in any certainty outside of what we refer to as "the primary truth", which is the understanding that you exist

 

It is a very powerful process, as far as wisdom goes. But it is also probably the darkest of all paths. Filled with every type of horror or "demon" that can be considered

 

As necessity, to balance a consideration on all possible good and beauty

 

It is, essentially, what is described within the story of Pandora's box

 

Except, "hope" can end up becoming the form of the torture, as the mirror reflects all such "good" things within you, as the key to your pain, fears and self-abuse. Which comes with a feeling of futility

 

This is why we isolate ourselves in this time. So we cannot hurt those connected to us, whilst exploring the depths of all possible existential pain

 

From what I read, they desperately need to begin a purge

 

Generally, none are allowed to open the gateway they have, unless they have the ability to re-emerge

 

So they will eventually come good ... A much lighter, calmer and positive soul

 

I just hoped I could offer something to speed their journey

 

Maybe, it was you I was supposed to find after all Nungali

 

👍

Edited December 25, 2023 by Compendium
Corrected mistakes

[Nungali]

17 minutes ago, Cobie said:

@Nungali sorry if my post above was confusing. I thought the OP would benefit more from interaction with you (rather than helpfuldemon).

 

 

 

Thats okay .... Compendium seems to  ( Edit ; ) seemed  to think otherwise . .

Edited December 25, 2023 by Nungali

[Cobie]

26 minutes ago, Nungali said:

Thats okay .... Compendium seems to think otherwise . .

No, he is ok, he is open to conversation.

 

34 minutes ago, Compendium said:

… Maybe, it was you I was supposed to find after all Nungali 

 

 

Edited December 25, 2023 by Cobie

[Nungali]

Yeah I realised .  Note my edit above .

[Nungali]

From another thread ;

 

Thats a lot to take in in one go    

 

I thought to share something regarding your ; 

 

" The geometry, is no different to the theology. "

 

I see you work a 12 system with a 7  /  5  , and have interesting observations about the 'higher digits'  (and 12 )  .

 

I have a post   on for the lower digits showing how it is a universal principle in nature and has been adopted into esoteric or spiritual systems .... if you are interested - as it might take me some time to find it .

[Compendium]

15 minutes ago, Nungali said:

Thats a lot to take in in one go    

 

I thought to share something regarding your ; 

 

" The geometry, is no different to the theology. "

 

I see you work a 12 system with a 7  /  5  , and have interesting observations about the 'higher digits'  (and 12 )  .

 

I have a post   on for the lower digits showing how it is a universal principle in nature and has been adopted into esoteric or spiritual systems .

 

 

 

It is a principle found within everything

 

Mathematics, science, theology, mythology

 

The 12 disciples, the 12 labours

 

Almost anything containing 7 or 12, is aligned from/to/within the perceivable and measurable layers of dimensional frequency, by the fact it exists within perceivable spectrums

 

Visualising this alignment is one of the most powerful things anyone can ever do in this world, because it makes your physical form amenable to the same patterns in both higher and lower forms of reality

 

A good example, is visualising the planets as your chakra

 

See the sun as your mind, and all the planets circling it as the chakra

 

Forming a phased dimensional sphere, that is incidental to your body

 

But do not just visualise it. Know it. Feel it as the external version, of your internal body

 

It is not "like" you body. It is your body

Edited December 26, 2023 by Compendium
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[Nungali]

3 minutes ago, Compendium said:

 

It is a principle found within everything

 

Mathematics, science, theology, mythology

 

The 12 disciples, the 12 labours

 

Almost anything containing 7 or 12, is aligned the perceivable and measurable layers of dimensional frequency, by the fact it exists within perceivable spectrums

 

Indeed . Unless I can see its reflection in nature I do not adopt it .  Of course, that require one to have a deep insight into 'nature' . Fortunately it is also, in many cases,  'on the surface of the deep , ie. things like the 'perceivable spectrums' . of course those are in our human terms , other species show variation in their perceivable spectrums . Ours perception is based upon our 'tool kit' , as far as 'visuals' go   .  And that is based on variations of the 3 / 4 principle . As some of the higher numbers are based on it as well .

 

Spoiler

SOME SYSTEMS AND MAPS OF NUMBER.

 

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In some traditions numbers are not just symbols that tell us how many of a particular thing there are but can be seen as divine emanations.

In simpler form it goes something like this;

    The original primal unity. Some call it God - at the stage of God before creation. Others call it pure Self or pure Being. In cosmology it represents the singularity before the ‘Big Bang’. In geometry, it is represented by the ‘point’. (In the Thelemic system {which uses Ancient Egyptian Gods and symbols as metaphors} this is symbolised by the point or disc i.e. the Sun or Hadit.)

    There doesn’t seem to be much of a definition so far, as definition has not come into being. Concepts like self or even God require some level of awareness of the self or being, that is, it is postulated that being or self will have self-awareness. This concept or awareness of the self or being is a little different from the idea of self on its own. The idea of self, on its own, ‘implies’ awareness of self, one has within it the potential for two, duality, i.e. the self itself and the contemplation of or awareness of self. Now we have two concepts; the self and the self’s idea of itself. Subjective and (to an extent) objective. To contemplate the self requires one to ‘step outside’ of the self and ‘look back’ at the self. In geometry this is symbolised by ‘the line’. [This ‘dimension’ is perhaps the basis of the components of matter and energy; In the 1980s, a new mathematical model of theoretical physics called string theory emerged. It showed how all the particles, and all of the forms of energy in the universe, could be constructed by hypothetical one-dimensional "strings", infinitesimal building-blocks that have only the dimension of length, but not height nor width. (In the Thelemic system this process is seen as a moving point, and symbolised by the winged disc)

 

    As one implies two, two implies three. Via the process in 2 a new view is formed, a ‘new’ view of the self as gained by contemplation or awareness of the self. [Or the vibration of the ‘string’ forms a ‘particle’ or ‘energy field’.] Something has been gained, even if it is ‘just’ internal experience. In geometry this is symbolised by the concept of ‘surface’. It is also represented by the triangle. The triangle represents structure, order and form, definition and rigidity. It represents either; Singularity further explained by its polarities or a mediating ‘middle path’ between two polarities. With 3 ‘space’ has been created; up/down, left/right, forwards/backwards.

 

Now we begin to see how maps of 3 can be useful; The three Gunas – rajas, satvas and tamas, the three alchemical principles – sulphur, salt and mercury, The Holy Trinity – Father, Son, Holy Spirit, the three primary colours – red blue yellow and many other things like; Yin, Yang, Tao, even in electricity – positive, negative and current or temperature, moisture, light or Mother Father Child (to cut through all the mythic terminology). (In Thelema the ‘product’ of Hadit and Nuit {who represents zero or the circle – whose radius is infinate as Hadit represents the point or centre of the circle, which is located everywhere} is Ra Hoor Khuit; motion or ‘force’.

 

Ra Hoor Khuit

 

But with three we are still in the realm of idea, or the ideal world. It is a little beyond our normal comprehension and experience (which is why people have always used symbols, like maps or hieroglyphs or gods).

On the Tree of Life of the Qabbalah this ‘Supernal Triad’ lies above the ‘Abyss’.

Energies ‘travelling’ into manifestation pass through the third Sphere, Binah and become formulated, solidified, restricted and directed to become further manifest in the fourth realm. Alternatively, energies travelling ‘up’ the Tree, towards duality, unity and beyond, become liberated from form and restriction and Binah becomes a realm of liberation. [In the realm of physics this is the 3-D world of matter.]

 

    As two implied three, three implies four. The energies manifesting in four take on the ‘principles of four’ and are able to operate in a word of ‘double duality’ (2 x 2). Although many systems use the map of 4 it has its roots in 3 and extensions to 5. In four we have the map of the 4 elements; fire, water, air, earth, the four suits of the Tarot, the four worlds of the Qabbalah and many more which we will look at below. Four brings the concept of space from the 3 (up-down, left-right, forwards-backwards) which define space. The 4 is the result, ‘space’ itself. In physics it represents the concept of time.

    Five moves more into the world of action. One analogy is the pyramid; the four sides can be extended up into the point. We can get the idea of motion and action. It can also relate to the pentagram; the four elements and spirit. Some traditions have 5 elements, either including ‘spirit’ as an element or adding an element such as wood or metal. In physics this is the idea of motion.]

    Six solidifies the manifestation of the second triangle. It can be represented as the hexagram; two superimposed triangles, one pointing up, the other down. It can represent the four elements and spirit, with spirit in its duality of active and passive, or the four elements, their origin in spirit and their connection to ‘earth’.

[ “Height, width, and length constitute three-dimensional space, and time gives a total of four observable dimensions; however, string theories initially supported the possibility of ten dimensions – the remaining six of which we cannot detect directly. This was later increased to 11 dimensions based on various interpretations of the ten dimensional theory that led to five partial theories ... Super-gravity theory also played a significant part in establishing the necessity of the 11th dimension.” (Wikipeadia). The relationship of this model to the Qabbalistic model of 10 spheres of Creation (with an 11th  and ‘hidden’ sphere – Daath, situated in the ‘Abyss’) and its manifestation through the 5 elements is an interesting correlation but beyond the scope of this article at present.]

Since this article relates mostly to the map of four I won’t go further with the numbers. One thing to point out is, so far, I have been quiet lineal. There are concepts that relate to reflection (or refraction), that is, the Supernal Triad on the Tree of Life reflects through (or on the waters of) the Abyss and makes another downward pointing triangle (the first triangle implies a second, as 1 implies 2) and of course this requires a third triangle, and all three come together in the manifest realm, to make the 10th sphere of the Tree of Life.

 But there is also the idea (of lineal manifestation) within this system of the Lightning Flash, where the energy travels from 1 – 10.

This might seem all good so far but what about zero? The above system seems to be rather ‘patriarchal' and relating to cultures who have a singularity genesis. We adopted the concept of zero mathematically from the Islamic world but it can also be seen in Qabbalah in the worlds of pre-existence; Ain, Ain Soph and Ain Soph Ur (and again we can see how the Supernal Triad is a reflection from the triad of ‘negative existence’).

Adding the concept of zero we can see how that implies the number one. I am sure physicists  can explain how the ‘Big Bang’ came from nothing better than I can, but a simple mathematical equation will suffice here; if we consider the manifest world is duality and things appear in polarities, opposite pairs, we have + ‘side’ of one thing and – ‘side’ of another, if they are equal values , ‘n’,  then we have +n  +  -n = 0 , therefore, 0 = -n  +  +n.

[ “String theory’s concept of supersymmetry is a fancy way of saying that each particle has a related particle called a superpartner. Keeping track of the names of these superpartners can be tricky, so here are the rules in a nutshell.

•         The superpartner of a fermion begins with an “s,” so the superpartner of an “electron” is the “selectron” and the superpartner of the “quark” is the “squark.”

•         The superpartner of a boson ends in “–ino,” so the superpartner of a “photon” is the “photino” and of the “graviton” is the “gravitino.”

Use the following table to see some examples of the superpartner names.

Some Superpartner Names

Standard Particle     Superpartner

Higgs boson  Higgsino

Neutrino       Sneutrino

Lepton          Slepton

Z boson        Zino

W boson        Wino

Gluon           Gluino

Muon            Smuon

Top quark     Stop squark.” – Wikipedia article on String Theory.]

 Now, looking at any ‘n’, + or –, we can understand it further by converting it to the world of duality that we operate in. So we have + and – of +n and + and – of –n. In the elemental world this is shown as a division into active and passive. Active elements are Fire and Air; passive elements are Water and Earth.

So, looking at maps of four the obvious place to start seems to be the four elements. But why do we need maps anyway? For the Hermeticist all things are interrelated but some vibrate within specific energy fields. It can be handy for comprehension of interrelationships to draw the line somewhere, so we develop maps of 1 - singularity, 2 - duality, 3 - trinities (as mentioned above), 4 - Elements, 7 - planets, 10 – spheres (Qabbalah), 12 – signs (astrology), 22 paths (Qabbalah), 64 Hexagrams (I Ching).

 

 

The Principles

The DEACON: “Mysterious Energy, triform , mysterious Matter, in fourfold and sevenfold division, the interplay of which things weave the dance of the Veil of Life upon the Face of the Spirit.” [From ‘The Collects’; The Mass of the Gnostic Catholic Church.]

 The important concept is the connection and interrelationship between things and not viewing things as separate from each other or ourselves as separate from the things around us. One versed in this philosophy will not just see a ‘thing’ but all things related to it will come to mind so one can understand the ‘one thing’ more holistically and how it relates to the self and the self relates to many things, the things within or outside of a  ’field’ or relationship. It is a way of increasing our knowledge and understanding of ourselves, others and environment, that hopefully leads to wisdom in our actions. (See above article on Hermetics.)

This is probably easiest understood by the relationship to the four elements and the psyche and it is my view that for correct operation they should be in a particular order of manifestation.

The four elements are Fire, Water, Air and Earth. They respond to;  fire, the Self - inspiration, intuition, individuality and connection to spirit, the True Will; water, the emotional body - the unconscious, the dream world, feelings, empathy, understanding, etc.; air, the intellectual and rational body, logic, thought, ‘mind’, etc. and lastly, earth, the physical body.

 The balance is important, consider this; we have a ‘Eureka’ moment (Some say great writing, music, creation, performance by a ‘Master’ comes from the otherworld. In moments like these we can become aware that it is more than ourselves creating, sometimes it is as though ‘we’ have little to do with the process, we are just a ‘channel’), we are ‘inspired’ with an ‘idea’, we make it our ‘own’ and begin to go about bringing it into manifestation. The fire is then tempered by water; next we should see how we feel about it, does it sit right, do we have emotive issues to sort out about it? Some say, “sleep on it first”, what is that but ‘putting it through the unconscious’? Next, with air, we should analyse it, see if it is possible, the how and where and why, think it through and make a logical plan. Lastly earth; we need to DO something about it - put the plan into action and bring it to manifestation, otherwise we are uninspired or unoriginal, we are doing something we don’t feel right about, or we haven’t used our intellect and logic, leading to inspirational ideas that can make one feel good but can leave one sitting out in a field for days waiting for aliens to come and dissolve all of our difficulties. And lastly, what is the use of any of it unless we DO something about it and ‘earth’ the current – we would be caught up in a ‘pipe-dream’.

The order of manifestation and hierarchy in the psyche is as important as balance. The difficulty with the standard modern mind set is that many of us don’t really understand our individuality, individuation, ‘True Will’ or spirit. Mostly our emotions are confused and run rampant. So what is left but mind, supposedly third place in the hierarchy, to fill the gap? Mind - this is one of our major problems, as well as a major asset. How can we not deny mind yet use it as an asset while moderate its difficult nature?  We need to get mind in its place, it should be third in the hierarchy. One cannot force it, it will rebel.

Here is a story to explain. One day, a factory worker (‘mind’) went to work, when he got there he found management had not arrived. Not even the foreman was present. He became concerned and started racing around, giving orders, taking orders on the phone, directing other workers and at the same time trying to take his place to do his normal job on the production line. Of course, chaos ensued, he did a bad job of everything and the things produced were faulty or imperfect, and at times the whole production line came to a grinding halt.

Someone tried to tell him that he was in the wrong place, “Get out of the office. Stop telling everyone what to do! Just do your own job.” But of course he could not and would not. Some tried to pull him away but he fought back. He was concerned that production would cease and there was no one to reasonably convince him otherwise. Eventually the owner and the foreman arrived and said, “Thank you for working so hard, here are the others, they are competent and will go back to their job and do it properly, but we can’t do it without the valuable work you do in your department, so now you can go back to that and do your job even better.”

And that was the only thing that convinced him to get out of the office, stop telling everyone else what to do, and do his job efficiently – with appreciation for his role.

As I go on looking at many maps of four, I will list them in this above order so we can see their relationship to other maps and themselves within this idea of a hierarchical order.

Colour

There are 3 ‘primary’ colours; red, blue, yellow.  There are 4 ‘natural’ colours; red, blue, yellow green : fire, water, air, earth.

We have 3 sets of colour receptors; black and white, blue and yellow and red and green. These three combine to give hundreds of possible hues like purple and magenta.

Within the eye the retina has two types of light sensitive cells called rods and cones. Cones absorb red blue and yellow but do not work well in detecting colour in low light.  Rods have ‘sacrificed’ colour reception to work as ‘night vision’ and detect black and white.

Signals travel from the retina along the optic nerves to the visual cortex for sorting and sending to the three relevant parts of the brain to analyse the signals in respect to three qualities; movement, colour, distance. These three parts of the brain send their processed information back to the visual cortex where it integrates the information.

Light – singularity, passes through two types of receptors to make three dimensions of colour, in a duality (or polarity) black / white, blue / yellow, red green, to process through the visual cortex to three parts of the brain and back again to make it possible to observe the four ‘natural colours’ and their combinations.

The four psychological truths.

1.    Stick to reality – Review the internal map. We all make our own internal map of how we make sense of the external environment. The external environment can change, sometimes greatly or very fast. We need to review our maps to make sure they serve us with the outside reality or we follow an old or irrelevant system to what we need to know, do or should be learning. (Fire. This is a form of projection as in extend Ki {see below}, but one has to make sure their projected reality, or understanding of reality is in tune with outward reality.)

2.    Delay gratification. Sublimation of desire (water - feelings). Hold off a bit, instant gratification sets up an unhealthy programme that can lead to addictive behaviours. In experiments children were given a choice; have all the sweets on that plate soon or have the one sweet on that other plate now. The children that could not wait exhibited more psychological dysfunction than the others.

3.    Withholding truth. (Air, mind, communication.) Modification of our own truth in communication to the level that the other is able to handle. Not to do this can cause trouble with the self and socially. (E.g. It might not be appropriate, YET, to tell little Johnny that there is no Santa, even though it is a ‘truth’.)

4.    Combine and balance the above.

 

The 3 Gunas.

This Vedic principle is an example of the primary triangle. In Samkhya philosophy, there are three major Gunas that serve as the fundamental operating principles or 'tendencies' of prakṛti (universal nature) which are called: sattva guṇa, rajas guṇa, and tamas guṇa. The three primary Gunas are generally accepted to be associated with creation (rajas), preservation (sattva), and destruction (tamas).

Beyond these forces or their influence or balanced within them lies a ‘supernal consciousness, depending on the tradition; Brahma, Krishna, etc. “The World deluded by these Three Gunas does not know Me: Who is beyond these Gunas and imperishable.” Who is this ‘Me’?

 Here we have another three implying a fourth, this time , ‘above’ (as opposed to ‘below’, a  pendant or result, i.e. 4, balance all three above or bring into manifestation, bring together back to a unity that has grown from the process of splitting the one into two / three).

A good example is the dialogue from the first part of The Rite of Jupiter (a series of planetary / mythic dramatic rituals). There are three central characters representing the Gunas and a central character; Centrum in Centri Trigono (C.I.C.T.) – the one in the centre of the triangle.

“The Temple represents the Wheel of Fortune of the Tarot. At its axle is the Altar on which sits C.I.C.T. On the rim, S. at East spoke, H. at North-West, T. at South-West.”

 Here are the three principles. The Gunas with the “me who is beyond these Gunas” in the middle, on the Great Wheel.  At one stage the ‘self beyond the Gunas’ addresses the ‘others’;

C.I.C.T.  “Feeling, and thought, and ecstasy

Are but the cerements of Me.

Thrown off like planets from the Sun

Ye are but satellites of the One.

But should your revolution stop

Ye would inevitably drop

Headlong within the central Soul,

And all the parts become the Whole.

Sloth and activity and peace,” (as the three ‘gunas are referred to here)

“When will ye learn that ye must cease?

TYPHON. How should I cease from lethargy?

HERMANUBIS. How should I quench activity?

 SPHINX. How should I give up ecstasy?

C.I.C.T. What shines upon your foreheads?

S.H.T. (together). The Eye within the Triangle.

C.I.C.T. What burns upon your breasts?

S.H.T. (together). The Rosy Cross.

C.I.C.T. Brethren of the Rosy Cross! Aspirants to the Silver Star! Not until these are ended can ye come to the centre of the wheel.”

Later, the ‘Gunas’ argue, C.I.C.T. admonished them;

 C.I.C.T.  “Irreconcilable, my children, how shall ye partake of the Banquet of Jupiter, or come to the centre of the wheel? For this is the secret of Jupiter, that He who created you is in each of you, yet apart from all; before Him ye are equal, revolving in Time and in Space; but he is unmoved and within.”

 Although it appears as a map of three it is describing a process of four (or 3 ‘implies’ 4 – as in the example above). One example is a three sided pyramid that creates an apex or a three sided pyramid and its base. Models of three often include a fourth principle (originating) above or within the triangle (the eye within the triangle symbol) or extending ‘below’ to show an ‘outcome’, e.g. all three elements combine to make earth.

The 4 worlds of Qabbalah.

In Qabbalah (a form of Jewish mysticism) the Tree of Life has four divisions;

Atziluth, Archetypal World – Fire.  The term Atzilut is usually translated as "Emanation" - the first emanation out of God's unique and pure Essence, and is therefore the "World" closest to Divinity. This Substance corresponds to Philosophic Fire, ‘living light’. This is the primal spiritual Substance from which all other matter evolves.

Briah, Creative World – Water. Briah translates as "Creation". The function of Briah is to define specific Form and function which begin to occur at this stage.

Yetrizah, Formative World – Air. This is the stage where analysis is applied to matter, and where these qualities are synthesised and formed into archetypal compositions with a view towards various specific applications.

Assiah, Material World – Earth. Assiah is the actual physical universe in which all things live and carry out their functions.

Divisions for the Soul.

The Hermetic Qabbalah also has similar divisions for the soul; the four parts of the soul;

1. Yecidah ("single one") relates to the ultimate unity of the soul in God, as manifest by pure faith, absolute devotion and the continuous readiness to sacrifice one's life for God.

2. Ruach ("spirit") relates to the emotions.

3. Neschamah ("inner soul") relates to the mind and intelligence.

4. Nephesch (Animal soul – ‘creature’ -- the lower soul) relates to behaviour and action.

The 4 DNA letters GACT.

The genome of an organism is inscribed in DNA, or, in the case of some viruses, RNA. The portion of the genome that codes for a protein or an RNA is called a gene. Those genes that code for proteins are composed of tri-nucleotide units called codons, each coding for a single amino acid. Each nucleotide sub-unit consists of a phosphate, a deoxyribose sugar, and one of the four nitrogenous nucleobases; the purine bases adenine (A) and guanine (G), the pyrimidine bases cytosine © and thymine (T).

Four Systems in the Body.

       

FIRE       WATER     AIR        EARTH

If we add a ‘fifth element’ – spirit we can include ‘mind’.

The Four principles of Divine Living (from Buddhism).

Loving kindness, Compassion, Equanimity (balanced mind) and Appreciative Joy (or Sympathetic Joy).

The 4 principles of Aikido.

Briefly, Aikido is known as a non-violent/confrontational martial art that generally uses gentle and fluid movements to contain or control energies that come into one’s sphere of operation. It can work on any level, spiritual, emotional, intellectual or physical.

The four principles of Aikido are; 1, project Ki. 2, concentrate on your one point. 3, ‘empty’ your mind. 4, keep weight underside.

    Project Ki. Ki or Chi is the visualisation of life force coming out from you, through the hands mostly (e.g., someone grabs your wrist, first response should be, project Ki out through your fingers) but also other parts of the body, including the eyes (one can notice a distinct ‘sparkle’ in the eyes when another does this), this is the internal life force and fire. This is generated by absorbing the Ki from the ‘infinite’ (or time and space being curved it may be ‘one’s’ own Ki returning?) into the Hara (the centre just below the navel).

    Keeping the one point; visualise the universal Ki concentrating and flowing into the Hara, visualise your Hara as black hole at the centre of the universe. This is absorption and relates to water.

    No mind. Have ‘no mind’, just don’t think about it, keep the mind blank, and calm, like a clear blue sky - air. If you can’t, only think about the things that directly relate to what you are doing.

    Keep weight underside. Earth - body and balance is held by keeping weight underside, i.e. visualise one’s weight as concentrating on any part of the body that is underside, bottom edge of arms (when extended) bottom of feet, inside of thighs (if feet apart) even under the chin, nose, brows and ear lobes. Of course, it all changes as one moves.

I know from personal experience if one can master all these and bring them together one can achieve seemingly abnormal feats (throwing three attackers at once with little effort, not being able to be lifted off the ground, not being overcome by three gripping a staff you grip with one hand, not being able to have your arm bent, and even, as personally demonstrated to me by a teacher, not being able to be pushed over by 20 people all behind each other, all pushing, while the other squats on the balls of the feet, etc.)

 

The 4 Male Archetypes.

In ‘King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: Rediscovering the Archetypes of the Mature Masculine’ by Robert Moore and Douglas Gillette an extensive use of the 3 / 4 model is utilised. They divide the male psyche into four components; King, Warrior, Magician and Lover.

[By now you should be able to match each to its element.]

Each of these is explained with a triangle model and shown in duality. In the ‘mature psyche’ the warrior triangle has warrior at top and sadist and masochist either side of the base; the king has tyrant and weakling; the lover has addict and impotent and the magician has detached manipulator and denying ‘innocent one’.

Within each triangle is another showing the immature self. Unsuccessful development shows attachment to either polarity of the underlying principles. Within the warrior triangle is another with hero at its apex with bully and coward underneath. Within the king the divine child is at the apex with the high chair tyrant and the weakling prince. Within the lover the apex is the oedipal child with the mamma’s boy and the dreamer. Within the magician the apex is the precocious child with the know-it-all trickster and the dummy.

We develop according to four factors; what we ‘bring’ with us in this incarnation, genetic material from parents and ancestors, environmental and social influences and individual choices we make (for whatever reasons).

This system also uses another astrological division of 4; the ascendant, the mid-heaven, the descendant and the I.C. (midnight position).

Four inner ‘planets’ make up the nature of our selves (considered to be the earth and Moon); Mars, Sun, Mercury and Venus and four outer planets represent processes that affect us; Uranus, Jupiter, Neptune and Saturn. [And now Pluto has been ‘conveniently’ removed from the planetary list.]

The 8 Circuits of Exo-psychology.  (Four for the left brain and four for the right brain.)

(Left Brain)

1. The oral bio survival circuit. This circuit is concerned with nourishment, physical safety, comfort and survival, suckling, cuddling etc. (Earth)

  2. The emotional–territorial circuit. This circuit is imprinted in the toddler stage. It is concerned with domination and submission, territoriality, etc. (Water)

 3. The symbolic or neurosemantic–dexterity circuit. This circuit is imprinted by human symbol systems. It is concerned with language, handling the environment, invention, calculation, prediction, building a mental "map" of the universe, physical dexterity, etc. (Air).

 4. The domestic or socio-sexual circuit. This fourth circuit is imprinted by the first orgasm-mating experiences and tribal "morals". It is concerned with sexual pleasure. (Fire)

(Right Brain)

And their ‘higher octaves’; 5 - the neurosomatic circuit (water), 6 - the neuroelectric or metaprogramming circuit (fire), 7 - the neurogenetic or morphogenetic circuit (earth) and 8, the psychoatomic or quantum non-local circuit – ‘Overmind’ (air).

The 3 Emergency Drives of Psychology.

Fear, anger and excitement (The 4th being the actual responses to the drives.)

Anger – fire; flushed, muscle tensing, feeling like one wants to explode, let off steam, heated in an argument, hot under the collar, boil with rage, etc.

Fear – water; cold, trembling, frozen with fear, etc.

Excitement – air (and its opposite; sleep - earth).

The Three Psychic Divisions of Freud and the Four of Jung.

    

Id, ego and super-ego are the three parts of the psychic apparatus defined in Sigmund Freud's structural model of the psyche; they are the three theoretical constructs in terms of whose activity and interaction mental life is described. According to this model of the psyche, the id is the set of uncoordinated instinctual trends; the ego is the organized, realistic part; and the super-ego plays the critical and moralizing role.

Jung's concepts of the unconscious differed. Jung saw Freud's theory of the unconscious as incomplete and unnecessarily negative. According to Jung, Freud conceived the unconscious solely as a repository of repressed emotions and desires. Jung agreed with Freud's model of the unconscious, what Jung called the "personal unconscious", but he also proposed the existence of a second, far deeper form of the unconscious underlying the personal one. This was the collective unconscious, where the archetypes themselves resided, represented in mythology by a lake or other body of water, and in some cases a jug or other container.

[Jung's work on himself and his patients convinced him that life has a spiritual purpose beyond material goals. Our main task, he believed, is to discover and fulfil our deep innate potential. Based on his study of Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Gnosticism, Taoism, and other traditions, Jung believed that this journey of transformation, which he called individuation, is at the mystical heart of all religions. It is a journey to meet the self and at the same time to meet the Divine. Unlike Sigmund Freud, Jung thought spiritual experience was essential to our well-being.]

Jung identified four major archetypes, but also believed that there was no limit to the number that may exist.

The self is an archetype that represents the unification of the unconsciousness and consciousness of an individual. The creation of the self occurs through a process known as individuation, in which the various aspects of personality are integrated.

The shadow is an archetype that consists of the sex and life instincts. The shadow exists as part of the unconscious mind and is composed of repressed ideas, weaknesses, desires, instincts and shortcomings. This archetype is often described as the darker side of the psyche, representing wildness, chaos and the unknown. Jung suggested that the shadow can appear in dreams or visions and may take a variety of forms. It might appear as a snake, a monster, a demon, a dragon or some other dark, wild or exotic figure.

The Anima or Animus. The anima is a feminine image in the male psyche and the animus is a male image in the female psyche. The anima/animus represents the "true self" rather than the image we present to others and serves as the primary source of communication with the collective unconscious. The combination of the anima and animus is known as the syzygy, or the divine couple. The syzygy represents completion, unification and wholeness.

The Persona is how we present ourselves to the world. The persona represents all of the different social masks that we wear among different groups and situations. It acts to shield the ego from negative images. According to Jung, the persona may appear in dreams and take a number of different forms.

Vegetative life.

A plant needs four elements plus the ‘fifth element’ to grow; ‘Spirit’– light. Fire – temperature. Water – moisture. Air – CO2 and O2. Earth – ‘growing medium’. Most consist of 5 basic components; seed, fruit (or seed container), flowers (or their equivalent), leaves and stems and roots.

Primary nutrients for good plant growth; N, P & K.  Further to this we can construct another triangle of nutrients with N, P & K at one point, secondary nutrients at another (  Ca, S & Mg) and micro-nutrients ( B, Cl, Mn, Fe, Zn, Cu, Mo & Se) at the third.

Four principles for agricultural consideration; cosmic forces, earthly forces, location and type of plant.

In Astrology.

These four elements are often applied to personality to describe temperament.

‘Fire people’ are often spontaneous and impulsive.  The Fire signs: (a map of three) Aries, Leo and Sagittarius.

 ‘Water People’ with are often feeling types and are very sensitive with deep imaginative and emotional traits. Water signs: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces.

‘Air people’ are often quick and animated. They tend to intellectualize.  The Air signs: Libra, Aquarius, Gemini.

 ‘Earth people’ can be quiet and slow but they apply themselves with endurance. The Earth signs: Capricorn, Taurus, Virgo

The map of 3 is also described in another way in astrology. Each of the four elements occurs in three states or qualities, respectively named the cardinal, fixed and mutable. Water is a good example (the substance, not the element), when it is a liquid this would be the cardinal state, when ice, fixed and as a gas, mutable. The placement of planets in cardinal, fixed or mutable signs also reveals basic traits of the personality.

People with an emphasis on cardinal signs can be leaders and initiators. Cardinal signs: Aries, Libra, Cancer, Capricorn

People with an emphasis on the fixed signs can organise pre-established things for efficiency. They tend to work within the system and are preservers. Fixed signs: Leo, Aquarius, Scorpio, Taurus

People with an emphasis on the mutable signs like to seek change and renewal. They like to find new systems. Mutable signs: Sagittarius, Gemini, Pisces, Virgo.

The Four Forces in Physics.

1. The Strong Force - This force binds neutrons and protons together in the cores of atoms. Fire.

2. Weak Force – Radio-active decay. This causes the conversion of a neutron to a proton, an electron and an antineutrino (and other particles). Water – a medium for dissolution and coagulation.

3. Electromagnetic - This acts between electrically charged particles. Electricity, magnetism, and light are all produced by this force and it also has infinite range. Air, particularly its astrological rulership of Mercury which in turn rules things such as electricity and light.

4. Gravity - This force acts between all mass in the universe and it has infinite range. Earth - ‘substance’, mass.

 

 

Modern physics attempts to explain every observed physical phenomenon by these fundamental interactions.

Perhaps this gives us some understandings of the interaction within the world of the first three elements and as we see the fourth, Earth, is apart or a pendant to the others?

Also considering that gravitation is the only interaction that acts on all particles having mass; has an infinite range, like electromagnetism but unlike strong and weak interaction; cannot be absorbed, transformed, or shielded against; always attracts and never repels.

[The modern quantum mechanical view of the fundamental forces other than gravity ( 4. and Earth) is that particles of matter do not directly interact with each other, but rather carry a charge, and exchange virtual particles (or information) which are the interaction carriers or force mediators.

This reminds me of the subtleties of the transference of coded DNA information (via the RNA) into the arrangements of enzymes

 

(so their natural ‘tendencies’ fold and form into the required structure of the ‘building block’ required to make cellular components … which in turn build ‘cellular micro-machines’ to carry out functions within the cell).

Some theories beyond the Standard Model include a hypothetical fifth force, and the search for such a force is an ongoing line of experimental research in physics. Another reason to look for new forces is the recent discovery that the expansion of the universe is accelerating, giving rise to a need to explain phenomena such as dark matter.

Some have called this Quintessence. In physics, quintessence has been proposed by some physicists to be a fifth fundamental force. Quintessence differs in that it is a dynamic equation that changes over time, unlike the cosmological constant which always stays constant throughout time. It is suggested that quintessence can be either attractive or repulsive, it is thought that quintessence became repulsive about 10 billion years ago (the universe is approximately 14 billion years old).

 Some special cases of quintessence are phantom energy, which has a non-standard form of kinetic energy.

From Wikipedia; “Quintessence is dynamic, and generally has a density and equation of state that varies with time. By contrast, a Cosmological Constant is static, with a fixed energy density …”

We could postulate this fifth state is the relation of the ‘element’ spirit and its relationship to the four elements.

This is shown in Western Hermetics as the attribution of the FIVE elements to the pentagram, with spirit being the top point. In this system ‘spirit’ is seen as active or passive; that force that creates the elemental differentiation or that force that maintains elemental essence and identity – the spirit of the element itself.

In 2004, when scientists fit the evolution of dark energy with the cosmological data, they found that the equation of state had possibly crossed the cosmological constant boundary from above to below.

 Also we see that a form of the pentagram is shown as ‘averse’ or upside down. Now ‘spirit’ is ‘below’.

To have it all together we approach the hexagram, that which is above and that which is below.

This is the basic premise of Hermetics and its basic document; The Emerald Tablet.

 

 

 

Quintessence (from Wikipedia): “The name comes from the classical elements of the ancient Greeks. The aether, a pure "fifth element" (quinta essentia in Latin), was thought to fill the Universe beyond Earth. This seemed fitting to modern scientists, since quintessence was the fifth known contribution to the overall mass-energy content of the Universe.”

This has been a basic introduction to some of the concepts behind ‘psychological maps’ or ‘models of realities’ using number. We can see how the natural world uses divisions of four (which is generated, by esoteric number theory from triplicity, which in turn is generated from duality, unity and originally, no-thing). The reason we study such maps or schema is, not to confuse the map with the territory but a way of helping to understand and hence, in some cases, predict the territory. A person exploring their own psyche without a map is as lost as an explorer in a strange country. He will eventually be able to make up a map from his experience but most of his time will be used up in that. The idea of spiritual, religious, psychological or cosmological maps is that they show us forces inherent in nature and allow us to figure out territory we may be unfamiliar with by applying natural principles or laws. Any laws, principles, ‘discoveries’ or systems we follow that are not based on or attuned with a process in nature come from an unrealistic human  ‘head trip’ that has not been balanced by the other four ‘worlds’.

A prominent Paracelsian physician, astrologer, mathematician, cosmologist and Qabalist, Robert Fludd was the first person to discuss the circulation of the blood and also produced the influential diagram used in the study of perception, consciousness and psychology in his Utriusque cosmi maioris scilicet et minoris (1619).

 

Rosicrucian Schema. The true symbol of the Rose and Cross - the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Compendium said:

 

Visualising this alignment is one of the most powerful things anyone can ever do in this world, because it makes your physical form amenable to the same patterns in both higher and lower forms of reality

 

[Compendium]

@Nungali

 

That post is awesome. Thank you. I am reading through it now

[Nungali]

The next thing I would like to respond to is your 'affliction' .  Remember I asked  if  there was any type of enactment of an affliction or injury in the relevant initiation ceremony ?  Since I dont know what ceremonies or rituals your system does , and I cant  explain my own in details , I will use what Steiner wrote  and the Freemasonic ceremonies  where this technique is used :

 

Steiner  used a Christian based initiation system , in most traditions a part of some ceremonies involves the candidate  enacting a part from the life of another initiate / master / teacher  - via emulation / resonance  and this often involves the persecution of that person . In Steiner's 'Theosophy of the Rosicrucian ' he talks about pains, injuries and afflictions that  can occur afterwards  that relate to the wounds of Christ received during his 'punishments' .  In Freemasonry , they emulate Hiram Abiff and the three 'ruffians' that assault him. The candidate takes the place of Hiram and receives the attack ( focused on three different parts of the body - which roughly correspond to the the three of the main energy centers ) , 'dies' and is later 'revived ' .  Now most Masons won't experience any type of 'backlash'   for the reasons you already mentioned about  Freemasonry  ( and also its become , for many, a bit of an 'empty ' ritual and it does not contain that type of 'potency' )  .

 

You mentioned some of the mysteries you are involved in ( outer ) relate to the labors of Hercules . I dont know if any thing similar is enacted or practiced , but that is where I would look for a cause - try to find something in there , that relates to the location of your affliction or has some relation to it  - it might not be in the labors , it might be in some other part or thing I dont know about .

 

Unless it relates to the end of Hercules  ... then I would speculate some type of 'Hydra poisoning '  .

 

Now, let's see ,   the heads of the Hydra on the initiate  .....  that could lead to the Golden Dawn diagram  ....

 

 

Lower  right side of torso would be head  6 ( from the tail ) .

 

(more to follow )

[Nungali]

... wow a lot just happened  in the last 1/2 hour .   A close friend just rang and has developed a similar problem but on their back , not their front .   And I was sorting that as well .

 

 

First, I think you said you are in hospital ? or at least bed ridden .  I hope not hospital as I thuink you should get some TCM treatment . Also its interesting that you 'turned up' on a taoist forum. TCM can be excellent for treating your 'energy body' .

 

regarding a remedy (as as yet a cause is unclear  )  . get this checked ,  a similar situation happened to another;  Lower right side torso , treated for appendicitis - even though it was not indicated medically, but that aint gonna stop a doctor from removing it ... so they did . Nothing wrong with also no apparent  cause 'medically' after a heap of tests , doctor flummoxed .  Later in desperation from pain they went to a cranio-sacral osteopath  who found they had a twisted illeo-cecal valve , which may not show up on medical tests . You might need a review from someone who knows how the internal organs impact the musculature of the body .  if you go TCM find  a TCM doc who knows structural stuff (many modern ones dont do palpitations find someone that does palpitations TCM , a structural kinestheologist or a cranio-sacral osteopath .

 

Even if this is not the issue , they might be able to find out what is .

 

 

Edited December 26, 2023 by Nungali

[Nungali]

https://www.allergiesandyourgut.com/post/malfunctioning-pyloric-ileocecal-valves-and-how-to-fix-them

 

I also noted something in your descriptions :

 

" I experience on-going pains, that radiate through points in my body like the kabbalah tree of life, that I feel concentrate down through layer, after layer, until I feel them concentrated in the bones of my spine

Likewise, when I manage to "let go" of certain pains, I feel them slip through gateway in my body, like a serpent uncoiling

 

(see both 'serpents / Hydras ' in above diagram , one on the left coiled, one on the right on the 'gateways ' )

One that goes deeper and through more layers than you can possibly imagine

Imagine the universe condensed into you body, shrinking in size at the speed of light to fit within you. Then imagine meditating on this for countless hours, after which, you seem to have gotten nowhere.

 

( I am not surprised you have 'blockage ' in that area then . Try this instead ;  imagine instead your hara is the center of gravity of the Universe and everything is ATTRACTED towards it , but , as far centers of gravity go, often 'attractors' are orbiting and not all directly 'crashing inwards' towards the center in direct vectors .  Even when the Universe , the closer bits  ,  stream into your hara , do not contain them there . Energy flow is not pressure or build up of force, that can cause stagnation, its about FLOW ... current . Imagine a fire hose ; no flow its floppy , high pressure with no flow causes blockage, expansion and maybe even a blow out . High flow ... its soft water and a soft hose material .... but you try and bend that hose when water is at pressure and flowing THROUGH it ... you cant bend it . It either flows though you hara into its other dimension or through your body and out the extremities , fingers, toes ,  surfaces , pores, eyes , etc . . )

Like trying to pull a piece of string through a jumble of gateways within your body, that exceeds the size of the universe itself there .

 

(  sounds like kidney stones  pain )

 

(  Dont try to pull it ,  allow the 'natural' flow , as if the 'outside' of the Universe is pushing , center yourself in the Hara . its not the actually Hara or 'you' doing the attraction , like a plughole isnt the 'one ' doing the sucking , but the water is swirling around and passing through the plughole into another place . )

 

and a hunch .... some Aussie bush medicine ;  try the top two leaves off 'Paddy's lucerne'  .... dont have more or the lower ones , you will get a bad headache .

 

Sida rhombifolia, commonly known as arrowleaf sida, is a perennial or sometimes annual plant in the Family Malvaceae, native to the Old World tropics and subtropics. Other common names include rhombus-leaved sida, Paddy's lucerne, jelly leaf, and also somewhat confusingly as Cuban jute, Queensland-hemp, and Indian hemp (although S. rhombifolia is not closely related to either jute or hemp). Synonyms include Malva rhombifolia. It is used in Ayurvedic medicine, where it is known as kurumthotti.

 

- also used for the treatment of spasm like pains , cramps ,  stomach upset and the relief of muscular tension related to PMT .

 

 

 

[Compendium]

@Nungali thank you again

 

Yeah, I posted something yesterday in the other thread responding to what you asked about enactment. I think you may have missed that post

 

Response on Illuminated Initiation Process

 

I did not finish reading that last part yesterday, as I found myself needing to sleep, as I do 😣 (watching movies or TV shows with me is a nightmare, unless you enjoy watch them in pieces over days 😆)

 

What I can say from reading down to the description of number 4 and 5, is that what is being described is, nearly exactly, what we refer to as the primary sequence. The description is very comprehensive, albeit a little more over-complicated than it need be

 

There is a very specific mathematic thesis based around this, that I am told was once common knowledge. Which today would be said to "not yet be written". Involving the nature of the trinity. Which is, when simplified, the ability to perceive, consciously, to understand things such as "self", through reflection

 

It basically goes:

 

0 is unknowable. It exists only as mirrored context, for all that is known. Which is the primary sequence we call "numbers"

 

Numbers are all that is known

 

Numbers are creation, because they do not end. They merely get larger and incrementally more complex

 

Within the Arcana, linked to Tarot, 0 (zero) is represented by the fool

 

The reason being, that only the fool would claim to know, or believe they know, that which is unknowable by its nature

 

This includes those who would claim to know and understand "God", or use such terminology to align their own understanding, as if it were truth. Outside of what is necessary to convey concept to others, who would use such terms

 

In Illumination "truth" is a term that is only ever used for one thing, the individuals understanding of their own conscious mind

 

Everything outside of this that people would call "truth" is considered "relative truth". Because there is no certainty on such things. Only a common level of understanding

 

The Illuminated Primary Truth

 

The only thing that you can ever know for certain in this world is that you exist

 

Everything else is up for debate

 

Personal belief is not the same as knowing

 

Knowing is not the same as understanding

 

The rest of the trinity, 1, 2, 3, is mathematically, only existential provable through its relation to each other

 

1 could not exist without 2

And neither could exist without 3

 

To simplify this

 

It means that 1 cannot be said to be 1, unless there is something to compare it to, which is its second

 

Without the second, it could not be "1 of". It would be a whole, or all

 

Likewise, 2 could not be said to be a second, unless there was a first to compare it to

 

But in order for the two to be contextualized as separated wholes unto themselves, there needs be the ability to "reflect"

 

They describe this in the document you sent me as it being "space between the two", but in reality, it is more than this. It is anything which comes in between, which means it can also be a blockage or division

 

The best way to think of it is as being a gateway, which allows "direction"

 

3 gives the ability to discern between 1 and 2

 

Without 3, it could be said that 2 is equal to 1. Or 1 is equal to 2. You could not determine with confidence which is which. Or more importantly, the order (direction) they come in

 

Even if, in reality, such determination is an illusion of directional perception

 

There is:

 

1 = 1

1 = 2

2 = 1

2 = 2

 

"Direction" within 3, allows the determination of which comes before the other, or which is dominant

 

It also allows reflection, which is a very important aspect left out out at the start of the document you shared. As it is the seat of consciousness (throne of temple of Solomon)

 

But 3 as a gateway, allowing direction, is always bi-directional in nature. Even if it can only be perceived in one direction

 

We may "perceive" it to be linear, in one direction

 

But the reflection of 1, 2, 3 is always cyclical and non-linear

 

3, goes both ways, always

 

And it is also exponential. Meaning that all "reflection" within 3, is also a reflection of that reflection

 

For every positive linear aspect, in direction, there is a negative counter

 

To these, there is also a positive-positive, positive-negative, negative-positive, and negative-negative

 

And so on, and so forth

 

This is the gateway to all conscious alignment

 

This is exponential in both directions, expanding outwardly, and contracting inwardly

 

From the source of creation, to the very smallest building blocks within the creation

 

If you learn to visualise and open this gateway, it can lead you anywhere in existence. Including time and space

 

This principle is viewed linearly within things like fractal recursion and perceivable macrocosm, microcosm

 

We are taught in Illumination how the mathematics principles of this connect to physics, biology, astronomy, and everything else

 

An example would be: Our perception of H1 in chemistry

 

We believe there is only 1 in Hydrogen, but the reality is, that there is an unseen negative counter to the positive H, which is merely outside of our perceivable spectrum

 

Likewise, we also believe there to be 2 hydrogen in H2O, when there is actually only 1, which are the 2 sides of a phase-conjugated EM vortices. Similar to the 2 poles of the planet

 

Within the microcosm sphere of O, the unseen negative H seat, becomes visible

 

Water itself, is a visible microcosm manifestation of the gateway (3) principle

 

 

All known matter can be made from water, by turning it either inwards, or outwards on itself, balanced within a binary sync (Alchemy)

 

I can go more into this. We are given details on how to do it, etc

 

This gateway within water, is also a pathway in the formation of planets, that the Illuminated refer to as "Astrospiration". Which is the "flooding" of a newly formed planet, to bring more life and more water in. Trigger the planets expansion and growth, and evolution within it

 

Water is literally sucked into the atmosphere through hydrogen layers surrounding the planet

 

In a similar way to which the Earth "breathes" across the spheres of its layers (the other planets)

 

But I digress

 

Within the reflection of the gateway 3, is the key to perception

 

The ability to reflect to recognise what we would call "self"

 

But also to then reflect on that reflection, to perceive self as something external

 

Then reflect on that reflection, then reflect on that reflection

 

And so on, and so forth

 

This promotes cellular complexity, and is the seed of what we call "Intelligence" (Anunnaki)

 

When I went through the Lesser Eleusinian mysteries, this concept was taught to us using (the oppressed, or internal aspect/function of) Demeter

 

"Demeter" means "Diameter" or "Dimension". Depending on if you are perceiving it externally, or internally

 

Demeter gives birth to Kore. Who is taken into the underworld by Hades. To be
returned, in balance, as Persephone

 

Translated:

 

Diameter gives birth to core (or nucleus). Who is taken inwards by Radius. To be returned, in balance, as Perception

 

Demeter = Diameter/Dimension

Kore = Core/Nucleus

Hades = Radius

Persephone = Perception

 

I'll include a few diagrams I made up which explain a few versions of this concept

 

I have to go for now, but I will try my best to finish reading your posts today when I get home, if I don't fall asleep. If I do, I'll read later tonight

 

Thank you very much for your help @Nungali

 

[Compendium]

On 26/12/2023 at 8:22 AM, Nungali said:

Best to travel to the place by camel     

 

PS . I am hoping your 'affliction'  was enacted and addresses as part of the relevant initiation ceremony ?

 

 

*Posted here from other thread for continuity*

 

Illuminated initiates need experience death, to enter the underworld. Usually by suffocation or drowning

 

Something which needs be carried out by your own hand, willingly. Meaning none will hold you underwater, you must do it yourself, as a test of your will, resolve and most importantly, intent

 

It is said, that only those who give themselves selflessly, without fear, for the right reasons, such as love and the greater good, will be able to be revived

 

You are warned, that if you do it "with fear in your heart", such as doing it for "self" (even reasons of self-improvement) or any of the wrong reasons, including curiousity, you will not be able to be revived. Regardless of the strength of your will or resolve. If it intent is flawed, the gatekeepers to the underworld will deny you access, and you will die

 

The idea, is that this makes it impossible for the unworthy, or unready to pass

 

As with Egyptian writings on the underworld, they measure your "offerings" to enter

 

But this does not mean gold or riches, as is mistakenly believed. It means the purity and intent of your heart

 

It is a dangerous process, which none should attempt to replicate outside of Illuminated council

 

It requires very specific alignment, to attempt this type of alignment

 

Like the fire of one torch, lighting another

 

There are very specific processes involved to ensure that only those who will survive the process, are allowed to undertake it

 

I will not go into detail here, for obvious reasons

 

I will only warn that there are very specific "gatekeepers" who guard the heart gateway (the ark of the covenant) in this process

 

So it should not be tried by anyone

 

These guardians are called "the burning ones" for a reason. Not "the cuddly friendly ones"

 

The modern Freemason "chamber of reflection" ritual, based on a ritual detailed in the Crata Repoa, is a symbolic recreation of this process

 

Almost everything that is carried out "symbolically" in Freemasonry, we experience for real

 

Affliction, basically, is a mirror process within the physical form, to the mental traversal of the underworld which is undertaken in initiation

 

As we die to close one eye, entering the underworld to begin initiation ...

 

So to, do we need open another (third) eye which is closed

 

To overcome and mark our return to ascension

 

It could be said to be the culmination of initiation

 

The best way I could contextualize it, is that it is like having a weight, like a shifting (or our of alignment) centre of gravity pulling against your body

 

One you need to pass and overcome

 

Or possibly, like being turned inside out, and having your conscious "soul" ripped across all dimensions, unknown and known, seeking to balance itself again

 

But within an external version of self, rather than the internal version of self

 

There is very particular esoteric understanding about exactly what this world and the planets actually are, that goes along with this

 

It is nearly impossible for most people to visualise effectively, unless they have traversed dimensionally, to be able to see each layer fluidly ...

 

But I am more than happy to share any of this understanding as knowledge. If you wish to know

 

We are not sworn to any secrecy. Merely taught to conserve our efforts in sharing things, with those who want to know, or are ready to hear it

 

Told to most people, they would not believe you, or think you crazy. Because they have no basis for understanding

 

But I am happy to share anything

[Zhongyongdaoist]

Well, since I have been mentioned already, my formal presence here may not be amiss.

 

On 12/25/2023 at 2:06 PM, Nungali said:

The other person here that I know  who has experience and valid study in this field (in the past, his focus now seems on the eastern traditions )  is Donald ; aka

In my introductory post:

Hello, they tell me I can do stand-up...

I had this to say about my studies:

 

On 1/7/2009 at 4:11 PM, Zhongyongdaoist said:

I have many years of study, practice, reflection, etc. on Daoism in its spiritual/philosophical/religious dimensions behind me. I combine it with a long term interest in the Western Esoteric traditions such as Magic, Qabalah, Platonism as it shades into Neo-Platonism, Astrology (Western and Chinese), Esoteric Mathematics, etc. Back in the Eighties I jokingly, but rather accurately, summarized my studies as Cornelius Agrippa meets the Golden Dawn in Medieval China. That said, how do you like me so far?

 

Since a lot of posts, complete with pretty pictures, have been made since my name was first mentioned, it may take me a bit to orient myself and see how and where I might be able to add something useful or interesting and preferably both.

 

ZYD

[Compendium]

@Nungali did you compile the article about the numbers? Or did someone else write it?

 

It is very good!

 

Just woke from my half-day nap. Going to try finish reading now

 

Not hospitalised. They cannot work out what is wrong with me. I've had formles countless tests. Ultrasound on kidneys,, liver, everything

 

I have been looking at CTM recently, to try acupuncture, so your advice was much appreciated

 

@Zhongyongdaoist pleased to meet you

 

Thanks for your concise intro

 

You sound like you have a good deal of understanding in the paths I lack, which is perfect

 

Hopefully I can be helpful to you, likewise

 

You have to forgive me if I take a little time to read that thread. I get exhausted feeding my birds each morning. I tend to do things at a slower pace than others, but I get there eventually 👍

 

*Back to reading*

[Nungali]

13 hours ago, Compendium said:

@Nungali did you compile the article about the numbers? Or did someone else write it?

 

It is very good!

 

Just woke from my half-day nap. Going to try finish reading now

 

Not hospitalised. They cannot work out what is wrong with me. I've had formles countless tests. Ultrasound on kidneys,, liver, everything

 

I have been looking at CTM recently, to try acupuncture, so your advice was much appreciated

 

@Zhongyongdaoist pleased to meet you

 

Thanks for your concise intro

 

You sound like you have a good deal of understanding in the paths I lack, which is perfect

 

Hopefully I can be helpful to you, likewise

 

You have to forgive me if I take a little time to read that thread. I get exhausted feeding my birds each morning. I tend to do things at a slower pace than others, but I get there eventually 👍

 

*Back to reading*

 

 

I wrote that post  re numbers , unfortunately the images didnt  show .

 

 

[Compendium]

Wow, @Nungali

Finished reading the first post

It is very well written, thank you for sharing

Some of this diverges fairly significantly from what we are taught in Illumination though

We are taught that 3 is the sphere or centre of influence (torus / torah)

It has nothing to do with height, width, depth, or any type of triangle

Because geometry cannot exist, nor be perceived, without a sphere of influence within which it can first exist

If you were in space, which way would be up/down, which way would be left/right?

For these things to exist there must first be a sphere/torus/cell:

1 - Primary - Focus
2 - Secondary - Perspective
3 - Gateway - Direction

There are phonetic keys within language aligned to this understanding, sometimes referred to as "Sacred utterances" by those such as the Freemasons, which help align a deeper understanding of the meaning and layering of the primary sequence (numbers)

I can give you the first 3 of these, for the sphere of influence, but not the rest of the numbers

Reason being, that when these utterances are said in order, they are a very specific and powerful key to this world. One which must be worked out, and earned by the individual themselves. In order to be understood

One that can take hundreds, if not thousands of revisions, over many years to get right

The first three phonetic keys for the sphere are:

1 - Un
2 - To
3 - The

Notice how the phonetics for the numbers, and the associated words, align and are nearly identical?

You will also notice that the meaning of these words, aligns perfectly the principles of what those numbers are supposed to represent

They also form a spoken "key" when said in order:

"Unto the"

One which continues out through every individual number, as I mentioned a moment ago

The longer the key sequence, the more powerful and "connected" it is

(Extension from this, 11, 12 and 13, can be considered, as a layer, "And, Too, Thee", specifying a layer of dimensional "relation" to the primary individual. In Arcana, this can be viewed subjectively as relation to "Jack, Queen and King" (if you wish to give up your sovereignty by appointing such illusory titles). This is why the number 13 is often considered "Unlucky", because it is the first number in the dimensional (perception) sequence, after the primary 12 layers of the individual themselves, that relates to a secondary individual or position

Meaning, that the favour (or luck) is considered to point to someone else, other than yourself)

4, 5 and 6, are relation to the sphere

This is when triangulation first becomes possible, as directional positioning upon the sphere of influence becomes possible

The reason that 3 and 4 are considered to be seamless considerations to each other, is that they are relative within face connection

3 is the sphere itself
4 is relation to the sphere
 

4, 5 and 6, relate things such as what we call "Height, Width, Depth"

4 - East / West - Force - Rotation/Spin
5 - North / South - Field - Meridian/Gravity
6 - Elevation - Size - Depth/Centre

Four - Force
Five - Field
Six - Size

See the phonetic relation in these (these are example "keys", not the precise keys I said I could not give)

It is very literally what the symbols we use for these numbers mean



In directional sense

4, is internalised (centripetal) force
5, is externalised (centrifugal) force

---

Within Illumination, we do not consider "Fire" to be an element

We are taught there are 3 "element" base:

GAS
LIQUID
SOLID

Within the exchange between these elements, across the liquid bridge. There are two transitory states

ELECTRICITY
FIRE

Electricity is POTENTIAL
It is rapid contraction of GAS to SOLID

Fire is ANGLE
It is the rapid expansion of SOLID to GAS

Within things like Christianity, these are described as:

ALPHA & OMEGA
Or
CHI-RHO

ANGLE / ALPHA = FIRE
POTENTIAL / OMEGA = ELECTRICITY



Both are opposites of water. One sitting upon each side

Fire is slowed by water
Electricity is accelerated by water

GAS
= ELECTRICITY-
LIQUID
= FIRE
SOLID

1, 3, 5 - Harmonic intervals

If you unravel the vortices within water, you get electricity. Just a little water, can make great deal of electricity

If you condense the vortices, at different intervals along their north and south poles, you can use water to form any of the elements of the periodic table, using the O macrocosm sphere

On the other side to this process, fire strips the magnetic bonding promoted within these states, by forcing the elements being burned, outside of their macrocosm state, back to the atmospheric constant

---

The next part that is very different to Illumination, is the consideration of mind being subject to the 3rd place

Mind is never anywhere but first

Without it, there would be nothing to consider with

You would have no worker going to work, no supervisor, no tasks to be set, done or failed

The problem is, that people confuse the source of mind, with the reflection that is used to convey it as concept

"Mind" is the source (1), which comes forth (2), to reflect upon itself in balance, knowing and understanding (3)

This, collectively, is consciousness

"Thought", is nothing more than the "flight" of this process

"Thor" with his winged helm, for the higher dimensions, and hammer for the lower

"Thoth" with his bird head, for the higher dimensions, and his writings for the lower "decay" dimensions (book of the dead)

"Theos" within the Christian tradition, that which is cast forth, the Father, said to reside in the sky above

Thor, Thoth, Theos, are all the same, and they all mean "Thought"

These personifications convey the difference between the "flight" of our conscious, and the seat of it, which is "mind"

Within the Egyptian mysteries, Illuminated initiates are taught that  ⵙ is mind. With Ankh meaning "Intelligence", the same as "Annunaki" in Sumerian

Today, like most Egyptian, Sumerian, Norse and other teachings (including the Hebrew and Greek writings the Bible was translated from) ⵙ  has been mistranslated, due to the fact that those who translated the texts, did not understand the concepts and wisdom they were translating

ⵙ  is said to mean both "Ra" or "Sun". When in reality it means "Mind"

But the accepted translations are not exactly "wrong", they just do not understand a simple concept that was common knowledge amongst those such as the Sumerians, Norse and Egyptians. In that there is no difference between the sun in the sky, and your conscious mind

When you look up at the sun, you are looking at the external version of your own mind

Not something which is "like" it, or works "similar" to it. It is very literally your mind

This is the meaning of the "All-seeing eye". That the seat of your conscious mind within the triangulation of your external body, is the sun in the sky

Not just your mind. All of our minds

One for the many
Many for the one

For this reason the "All-seeing eye" came to mean, that "All are welcome, under this banner", because our minds and life, are all of the same sun and source. Something far removed from what people believe it to mean today

In Illumination, we refer to the Earth as the gateway of "our external body". We see it as no different from the internalised form of our individual body, merely a massively expanded external version

One half of our form, concentrates inwards, condensed within us. The other half expands outwards, as the universe

As we know limitation within the internal form and our lifetime, so do we find wonder in the unknowable intricacies of the external expanding form which seems infinite

It is not by mistake that, if you take the "H" off the start of "Heart" and put it at the end of the word, you get "eartH"

The alignment is very precise and clinical, but in no way as complex as many make it out to be

Too many find themselves analysing their ability to analyse, which is akin to looking into a mirror, at another mirror behind yourself, and seeing infinite layers of possibility

You need only analyse the first form, and its counter-reflection

The first 6. The sphere, and the triangulation within

Within such triangulation, a mirror of the sphere (eye) also exists

Hence Ra (your mind) and the sun, both being one in the same

The star of David is the meeting of the internal and external spheres

Your internal body, or physical form, and your external body, or uni-verse

Everything else is relative in form and structure. Regardless of how far removed and complicated it may seem

The correlation of the greater external body (12 tones of the full octave), is as is shown in the diagram I posted earlier (below)


An important consideration within this, is the confusion within terminology such as "Conscious" and "Consciousness"

People get lost in the perspective of their own reflection, which is why it is important to simplify the reflection of self as much as you can

It does not matter if you say "mind" as that which emerges from within you (that people mistake for "will") or as the reflection within which such can understand itself

Or indeed, the reflection of that reflection, in which it is conveyed in concept to other people

"Mind" is the same. Internally or externally. Regardless of which direction it is perceived from

It is when you start trying to classify direction within this perception, that you get lost in your own reflection

Keep it simple. It is all mind. It exists in phase when you analyse it. But it is experienced perfectly and seamlessly (for the most part)

Conscious = Individual
Consciousness = Collective

Likewise, as mentioned before, we mistake things such a "Will" as being some type of divine force. When in reality, it is the shape of our own form and "mind", stretching out "before" us, in the same way that it stretches out "beyond" us

Or returns to us, in consideration and reflection

The "sources", which are the centres of spheres (the "un") are the same, regardless of where you consider them emerging from

"Un" could be your own mind. It could be God. It could be the big bang. They are all the same

The source exists across all spheres, in phase. But they are all one in the same

I hope this makes sense. It is hard to put into words. But easy to visualise, once you understand it

Within Illumination, when you re-wire your brain to think cyclically (or bi-directionally, when linearly applied), things such as will, are perceived for what they are. As little more than retrospect within the lines of probability

I find myself drawn to pick up something I do not need, to take it with me before I go out. Because during the course of my day, I somehow come to need this thing

It becomes more a type of sense within the mind

What most people refer to as "will" we refer to as "Pre-effigy sync"

Like water being sucked out to sea, before the arrival of a tsunami. It is space that appears within a cycle, based on the influence of the mind, as centre of gravity or force within the logos

Within a sphere, if you apply force against the atmospheric constant, you also create "slack" behind that force

This is the basis of what we know as "light and sound", which are two sides of the same coin

The pressure we call light, against and over the constant, creates the counter pocket of slack, within which spectrum of waveforms such as sound can exist

This is the basis of wave/particle and things like the double-slit experiment

A phenomena that is very easy to understand, when you realise that all interactions, observations or absorption of medium, form a type of interference pattern within the equilibrium of a sphere/torus/cell

If you absorb light "viewing" the experiment with any form of optical device, you also create a pocket of slack within the equilibrium of the vector exchange, which alters the way "light" behaves

Most modern science, as well as spirituality, does not account for the bi-directional nature of influence, that is inherent within all spheres/torus/cells

They see cause and effect. But they do not see that effect is also cause. Again, this is due to our linear (directional) perception, giving us the illusion that we live within a directional existence, rather than a cyclical one

What people refer to as "will", or other forms of divine inspiration within the medium, work in much the same way

They do not come first, they only appear to

Mind always comes first, as it is the centre, nucleus or core

One last thing I will point out in the numbers part you posted, is that the "4 truths" part, is horribly removed from the concept of alignment that any form of initiation is supposed to promote

You are supposed to consider all possibilities. Regardless of how "impossible" they may seem

Submitting to "Reality" subjugates you, disconnecting you from all possible alignment to your external body/spheres

It makes you "subject" to the workings of the world, rather than intimately aligned to them at the source, inherent from birth

I'll detail some of my experiences which brought me to this understanding, and why this concept of "truths of reality" is so horribly contrary to development of an individuals conscious soul

You may not believe what I tell you here, as I myself would not have, had I not experienced it myself. But I will detail it anyway

Take from it what you will,

Within Illumination when we are first initiated, we are taught to understand the link between the spheres of the brain and spheres like the atmosphere of the planet

We are taught to understand that they are one in the same. Not separate from each other, only perceived as such

Gas - Mind
Liquid - Heart
Solid - Body

We meditate for days, weeks, months on end. Sometimes days straight, up to 12 hours at a time. Stopping only for physical functions like drinking water or going to the bathroom

This is during a process of self-annihilation, where we seek to "test the boundaries" of our physical from

Here is something I wrote during my period of self-annihilation, related to boundaries and limitations such as "reality":

"It took me a while to realise that all that I have become, is all of that which I used to think lesser. That I lost something while I was looking for something else

Every time I opened myself to something, it opened me to that something. Like watering a plant I know is poisonous, to know why it seeks to kill

Not to know the pain it brings, but rather the explicitness of its expression. Like opening a wound which may not heal, to see where mind and body meet

We are slaves to our own limitations, whether they be met by expectation or regard. It is life meeting expectation through consideration. It is stasis but also stative

You open passages which should not be entered, if no reason was given not to. Rules are the definition of their own necessity, or they need not be met

Their application cannot be in “want” lest it be submission to such

“Do what I say, not what I do” cannot be said, if I, or you, are capable of doing as is done. All who would restrict in such a way, should be contended as a matter of duty, if not of course

Binding of the mind can cut just as deep as those of the wrists, though it is our choice if we bleed in such a way. We allow doors to remain closed, if none choose to try open them

Holding yourself to the wrath of pain, makes you both more and less than its measure

A boundary that isn’t sought and challenged is non-existent, and a boundary which forces itself unjustly can never be kept

A boundary which shows no respect, will never receive it, and a boundary for preventing harm, cannot then be allowed to cause it

What is one person’s wine is another’s poison, and the measure of a victim lies within perspective"

--

During this period, we are taught to understand the electromagnetic influence of our bodies, as a sphere which surrounds us

Over years, we align our biorhythm to a weekly cycle, rather than a daily cycle

Staying awake for 4-5 days at a time, after which we sleep for 2-3 days

The world, and your influence upon it, changes when are you align in such a way

Meditating for 6-8 hours without moving, becomes a simple thing to accomplish

It instead becomes much harder to keep track of time. Where you mean to lay still for an hour or two, to reach your mind out across the external (universal) spheres, you find yourself emerging many, many hours later than you intended. Aching within your body and mind, in ways which are hard to explain unless you have experienced it

Within these meditations, we come to experience "whole" states, which I will not go too deep into in this post, as there is far too much background to explain first

But basically, it all forms part of your "underworld" journey

Within which, "reality" holds little meaning. Other than, as the anchor to which you are able to return, and remain, within your physical body

There are times during week long meditations, where I have "bottomed" out, to the extent where my conscious mind barely recognises my physical form

Colour becomes perfect, to an extent that is looks impossible perfect. Blacks, blacker than any you have ever seen. Almost like an holographic projection, or illusion

Until I experienced this, I was not aware that our vision was awash with a type of electrical white fuzz. As I am sure that the majority of people, are also not aware

When you close your eyes, you think you see black. But this is not the case. You actually see black, covered in a mesh of trillions of little white "electrical" dots". Like static on an old television

Dots which I believe, are some type of visualised overlay, of the intricate connections of all the lifeforms which surround you

Within self-annihilation, meditating for over a week, this electrical "static" thinned until it disappeared nearly completely, much like my conscious connection to my physical body

If I closed my eyes, all I saw was impossibly perfect black. Besides 2 tiny dots of white, moving around within the blackness. Dots I assumed to be myself, and my blood-red haired soul mate (where ever she may be)

There was a sense of "universal" understanding within this state. Where my mind was quiet as death. For a moment I found myself trying to seek any type of "question" on, or about our existence. But my mind was quiet

It felt like was no point in seeking, as if all possible questions within existence had been answered

A feeling of all-knowing. To the point where consideration itself, was a waste of time

I had a sense of everything being answered all at once. To the point where the physical world around me, seemed like some type of stage, with little purpose. The world itself, felt like a waste of time

I understood momentarily, that I needed to ground myself if I wished to stay in this world, as my conscious mind seemed to have been fully "unseated" from my physical form

I went to the kitchen and forced myself to eat. Something I only then realised I had not done in many, many days (probably at least 4 or 5 days with only water)

I struggled to eat, as my body seemed to have forgotten how to swallow. The feeling of food on my throat was painful, like sandpaper as it went down. As if I was doing something foreign to my form, putting food down, where it need not (or should not) go

Eating in general was painful. Physically, mentally and emotionally. I had to force it down

But when I did, I felt my conscious mind slowly returning to my physical form, as if I was bleeding through some type of dimensional barrier

I felt my connection to the world bleed back in. Questions again forming in my mind, about the process, on things such as "what the hell did I just experience? Where did I go?"

Within this period and the meditations, we are taught to focus a vortex above our physical bodily sphere, which allows us to connect with other dimensions of our externalised body, such as the ionosphere

We focus this to the point where I sat in the the middle of an oval, and ended up having eagles circling around my head, flying around the vortex and connection I was meditating on

An amazingly powerful, yet humbling experience. Beautiful in a way that few experiences in my life have been

Not just one or two eagles, but a whole spread of eagles, circling above me, exactly where I had been focusing a vortex up between my body and the atmosphere

Within these meditations, is where we start to understand the nature of things such as what people refer to as "will"

Meditating in the middle of the field, we eventually obtain a type of layering within our vision, like a transparent rippling of pearl-shell. Possibly what many refer to as "Aether"

It visibly ripples and pulses frequency around you in all directions

You hear birds chirping to your left, and you also see it rippling towards you visually

Within this state, if you close your eyes and focus on this rippling, you become aware of things before you sense them

You feel a gentle pull in a particular direction, sensing the sounds, before you hear them

It is more than this though. You do not just sense them, you know them. You share them somehow, as if they were an extension to your own form

You feel they are coming, and within your own mind, you make the sound with them

I found this state very hard to hold, as my mind expanded as far as I could hear and "sense" in every direction. Expanding my mind in such a way was very draining

I would find myself thinking on how amazing it was, to be aligned in such a way, and by such consideration, the alignment would slip

With more practice I think I could have gotten over the "wow" of what I was experiencing, but I saw little point. I understood how it worked and how to achieve the state

But it did teach me, that our mind (as source) is intimately connected to all things which may "appear" to come before it. Including the illusion of divine inspiration or will

This is not to say that there are not higher forms, states and understanding. The "Illusion" is only in our perception that we are subject to them somehow, or they lay beyond us in some way

This is not the case

We are able to sync intimately to any spheres, as natively as our own mind

On many occasions I have found myself "remote viewing" through another person, as perfectly as if I were experiencing my own body

I awake in their body, able to see, hear, smell, touch, taste, as real as if it were my own body

I even experience their emotions and thoughts, as if I were them

These types of experiences, as a woman, gave me very unique understanding of differences between how men and woman view the world

Things that are otherwise impossible for us to know in this world, such as how we visually see the world

I won't go into this now, other than to say there are very specific physical differences in how a man and womans eyes see the world

I am happy to explain more if you are interested at another time

Within deeper meditation, learning to understand these principles, we are taught to stretch our conscious mind up, to align it with the sphere of the planet (the ionosphere)

Which allows the exploration of all possibility and probability. Across all time and space. Including exploring alternate lines, as other people. Things which did not happen, or may never happen. But experienced through their form as physically as if they had really experienced them

This, as I will explain momentarily, came to be one of the things I realise is probably best not to play with. Just because it is possible to do it, does not mean you should

Expanding your mind in such a way is intensely exhausting. To the point where you can only hold the connection for a maximum of a few seconds, to maybe a minute

Doing this, you learn that things such as influencing and steering the jet-streams are possible

The night before the Chelyabinsk meteor hit Russian, there was (coincidentally) a meteor making a close enough pass to Earth, that it would be visible to the West of Australia in the night sky. I went down to the beach late at night to see this meteor

But when I got there, the sky was covered in cloud

I worked out which direction the meteor was supposed to be, focused on the sky, and in frustration yelled at the clouds to "MOVE"

And they did

A perfect hole was punched in the clouds, as if my words had shot forth some type of invisible projectile

(I found the meteor in the skies over Russia the next day, a very interesting "opposite" to what I had experienced, punching a hole upwards into the sky the night before. A type of unexpected, by interesting alignment)

I realised from this, that the potential for creating a vortex between your physical body and the atmosphere, was much greater than what most would believe is possible

I started expanding my mind to the atmospheric constant, trying to steer and manipulate its flow. "Playing" with clouds, basically

At first it was incredibly exhausting, for very little effect

Eventually I realised that I did not need to exhaust myself using incredible amounts of my energy and focus, expanding my mind out to align with the atmosphere. I could simply use the power within the atmosphere, to pull a connect inwardly to me

With time, I come to realise, that there is very little difference between the spheres. I could pull influence from the atmosphere inwardly, as if it were my own body/mind pushing outwards

The only real difference, is that it is much easier to use the massive potential of the planet, rather than exhaust myself

I practiced pulling small vortexes of cloud down on myself, like pulling a funnel, or tornado, down above my head

Realising I could spiral the cloud around, I increased my range each night. Trying to turn more and more of the sky above my head each night

Till eventually I found I was able to spin all the clouds in the sky, as far as I could see in every direction, above my head like a plate

But it was incredibly tiring, even when using the earth to connect

Making them move in a direction other than that they naturally wanted to move, was mentally, like pulling an increasingly heavy weight across the sky

I come to realise that this was because I was pulling against the constant of the rest of the planets atmospheric sphere

The only way I could think of, to overcome the anchoring of the rest of the planet preventing my influence, was to try turning the entire sky of the planet itself

One night, with some very heavy meditation, I worked my way up to turning the entire sky above me, then tried to expand out to "grab hold" of the whole planet and shift the sky around it

When I did this, I felt my eyes instantly roll back into my head, as it felt like my conscious mind was being ripped from my body

I nearly fainted and fell over

I realised, by doing this, that aligning the sphere of my mind, to the sphere of the planet, meant that if I tried shifting the entire sky of the planet, it would also shift my conscious mind

That momentary feeling of nearly having my mind ripped from my body, was rather unpleasant. So I decided not to try it again

Later, whilst standing on a secluded beach myself late at night, steering clouds, I came to a more definitive realisation on what I should, or should not be doing, in regard to these types of things

As a normal cloud rolled in from over the ocean, I focused a vortex up in front of it, spread it wide to block the clouds path, and pushed backwards on it hard

This folded the cloud in half, backwards on itself, unnaturally, nearly instantly

And as it did, the friction caused a violent discharge of lightning. Lightening which landed closer to me, than I would have liked it to

I realised something very important from this about our ability to influence systems. One that taught me, that there is a very big difference between what we can do in this world, and what we should do

Doing things like trying to steer the "natural order" and flow of the atmosphere, even in ways that seemed to me to be harmless, can have very powerful, unexpected and violent effects

As with layering your conscious on another person and syncing with them. Regardless of whether you are trying to influence them, or merely a passenger checking out what they are doing

These types of things should not be done

They can inadvertently have very disastrous or violent consequences

I decided after this, that I would no longer seek to "connect" myself in such ways. Unless possibly, it was in the unlikely circumstance it could be used to prevent some type of harm within the greater good

Within this period my "teachers" allowed me, for the most part, to explore exactly what was possible within "reality" and do whatever I wanted, as to gain and understanding through these experiences as to why I should do the things, that they would prefer I not do

The most I would generally get, doing what I should not do, or showing people things I should not be showing them are possible, is a pair of very unhappy barking owls landing, directly across from me. Screaming at me, one after the other, voicing their very obvious displeasure

I fondly refer to these owls as "Ishtars pets". Beautiful (albeit angry) birds, who turn up when things get particularly violent, or out of alignment. To yell at me, for being involved

Only on one occasion, did my teachers "censor" me, when I tried showing someone what was possible, so it did not work. But this, apparently, was to do with the person I was trying to show, more than it was me

The lesson learned from these experiences, was that though you may not be able to control "reality", it is very possible to steer the pathways of "reality" towards what you want them to be, gradually and gently

You should never consider yourself subject to reality, as was suggested in the "4 truths of reality" you mentioned

This is akin to giving up your divine birthright, in control of this world

You should never be subject to anything in this world. Not God. Not even the concept of will. Will is something you put forth consciously. It is not something which puts you forth

You control the pathways and structure of reality. You just need to make it amenable to the confines of what is previously established and known, or can be known

I managed to influence the sky, by the fact I understood how to massively expand and connect my electromagnetic potential through a level of meditation, and altering my biorhythm to a longer-count cycle, which is impossible to most people

And through such, seemingly impossible things, are possible

It was not magic. It is something which anyone can do, if they are willing to go through what they need to go through, in order to align themselves in such a way to understand the physics which make it possible

But what you wrote is right to a certain extent, in that within this, you need go with the flow of the constants ...

Or you find yourself fighting against an existential stream, which is the very source of your own soul. Like me, inadvertently trying to rip my own conscious mind from its physical seat/throne

You do not swim against the rapids of the river, trying to get to shore. Or you will exhaust yourself and drown

Instead, you need make small adjustments sideways, using the power of the river itself, to carry you, gradually, to shore

But under no circumstances, ever, do you submit to a collective understanding, subjugation and confinement within "reality"

You need do the opposite. Question everything we deem to be such, in order to find gateways unknown

The reason such gateways are considered by most to be impossible, or not exist, is because they are not sought. Nothing more

"Reality" is yet another illusion

The real "reality "is, that there is only what is known, and what is yet to be known

[Cobie]

14 hours ago, Compendium said:

… there is only what is known, and what is yet to be known …

and the unknowable. 

 

 

[Nungali]

16 hours ago, Compendium said:

Wow, @Nungali

Finished reading the first post

It is very well written, thank you for sharing

Some of this diverges fairly significantly from what we are taught in Illumination though

 

A very long post you wrote full of LOTS of different things and directions, so I will just look at the first part for now :

We are taught that 3 is the sphere or centre of influence (torus / torah)

 

In a way , yes.  What I was writing about is how three things , three basic things, come together to form a 4th 'more material ' thing .  That is, in the ideal (formative) world three principles come together to make 4th .

It has nothing to do with height, width, depth, or any type of triangle.

 

  3 certainly  has to do with those things ,  HWD are three things , a triangle has three sides  . I would say this is obvious to anyone reading this .   More so a triangle is the good example of my theory ; the three lines (ideal or abstract concepts - within themselves ) come together to make  a 'thing'  - a triangle .

Because geometry cannot exist, nor be perceived, without a sphere of influence within which it can first exist.

 

But this does not  change the fact that exists 'inside of'  such concept , which is what I was referring to . And if one goes backwards more one finds the three pattern in 'negative existence '  ,   'before zero '   - its all explained in the article .

 

And that is why 'Dao' or zero or 'potential '  or  a 'God/ess concept' about it exist ; eg, Nuit can be seen as the time space continuum within which 'manifestation' occurs .  But just because something must happen within something else , does not mean it isnt happening or existing at all, or that the thing inside something must be the 'container' .

If you were in space, which way would be up/down, which way would be left/right?

 

Really ?  If you are in void space , there is still a 'you'  .  Unless you are assuming my original point of 'one point ' unity , then you would be right, because  2 and 3 have 'yet' to come into existence .  But you asked me if I was in space . And 'I " am certainly not a lone point / unity .  SO  left is on < shakes his hand >  this side from my front  .... and so on .

 

if one wants to get esoteric about it , go to Kabbalah ;

 

For these things to exist there must first be a sphere/torus/cell:

 

Yes, but I dont see why that negates 3 relating to dimensions  ( that we live within and are all around us  ) or triangles ?

1 - Primary - Focus
2 - Secondary - Perspective
3 - Gateway - Direction

There are phonetic keys within language aligned to this understanding, sometimes referred to as "Sacred utterances" by those such as the Freemasons, which help align a deeper understanding of the meaning and layering of the primary sequence (numbers)

I can give you the first 3 of these, for the sphere of influence, but not the rest of the numbers

 

I am going to leave off here  with this :   have a look at that three part word ( ''Freemasonic sacred utterances " ) , I mean the 'lost word',  their main word , that word that masonry is all about  - not subsidiary or 'tack on 'words  but THE word  and how it used , and by whom and the 'triple' (three person )  'mudra' that 'opens' the field for its utterance and closes it afterwards .

 

And if I might be so bold as to make a suggestion to you  .... or pose a wondering to you ;

 

Why not focus more on the serious problem at hand  ... your affliction - I mean, you said it is success or death here . Instead of putting forth  massive amounts of information specific to one  tradition and relevant / reverent  to IT'S initiates  ?

 

Does your tradition have a teaching about the 'Four Powers of the Sphinx '  ? 

 

[Compendium]

On 12/29/2023 at 7:08 AM, Nungali said:

 

The Sphinx is a symbol of ordered civilisation, such as “Government”
 

The Sphinx riddle in Greek mythology of the word puzzle that Oedipus has to solve to become the King of Thebes, is an analogy for leaders chosen for their ability to solve problems and help the people

In Egyptian mythology, the sphinx is said to symbolise the solar deity called “Horus of the Horizon”

“Horus of the Horizon” is “Torus of perspective”. The sphere which brings forth directional perception, within which dimensional space can exist

“Horus” is the personification, of what we would call today “Torus”, or what is detailed in the correctly translated Old Testament “Torah”

It is no different to the Om symbol. Which is no different to the numbers, 1, 2, 3

Which is not different to any other TRINITY



FREEMASONS
Entered Initiate – Primary (Internal)
Fellowcraft – Secondary (External)
Master Mason – Gateway (Directional)

CATHOLIC
Father – Primary – Thought (External)
Son – Secondary – Emotion (Internal)
Holy Spirit – Gateway – Spirit (Directional)

ROSICRUSCIAN
Head – Thought
Heart – Emotion
Hara (Gut) – Action

DAO
Qi – Mind
Shen – Heart
Jing – Body

TCM
Upper Dantian
Middle Dantian
Lower Dantian

BUDDHIST
Thought
Speech
Action

SUFI
Head
Heart
Hand

PHYSICS – ELEMENTS
Gas – Sky
Liquid – Sea
Solid – Earth

ASTRONOMY
Earth – Brain / The Complex
Venus – Veins / The Flow
Mars – Muscle / The Flesh

EGYPTIAN

Akh – Arch
Ba – Bear
Ka – Carry

ILLUMINATED
(Un) The Eye – Mind / Sun / Sky
(To) The Waters – Heart / Moon / Sea
(The) The Hand – Body / Solar System / Earth

All these things are merely application of 3 phase states of the torus

One that can be applied at any level across the macrocosm/microcosm. To any torus, sphere or cell

The sun in the sky, is no different to the mind in your head

Your hand itself, with the the thumb centre, fingers surrounding, and palm between internal and external curvature



Width, Depth and Height, are not possible until you have a sphere of influence, giving “direction”, to which these things can be applied

4th Dimension - Width
5th Dimension - Depth
6th Dimension - Height

These are directional extensions (see image below)

Without the 1st, 2nd and 3rd torus/sphere dimensions, to give concept of direction. There would be be nothing to “face” or “point” in those directions, in order to perceive or correlate width, depth, height

There would be nothing for up, down, left, right, north, south, east or west to exist within

All geometry, needs exist within a sphere. Or it could not exist

All patterns of 4, are “relative” conceptual alignment

Such is the SPHINX, sitting prone to the SPHERE (the torus, which allows the perception of its horizon. “Torus/Horus of the horizon”)

3 is balance within the sphere. Source
4 is balance upon the sphere. Subject

3 allows you align across all centres of influence (gravity) across the spheres in phase

The light focused in the centre of your eyes, the same as the sun in the sky
The light focused within the centre of the eyes of someone else, the same as the sun in the sky
The light focused in the centre of your eyes, the same as the light focused in the eyes of someone else

The hole in the centre of the galaxy, the same as the hole in your pupils
The same as any gateway or conduit

Within a deep meditation, I have passed through the eye of Sagittarius. The super-massive black hole at the centre of our galaxy, no different than passing through the pupil of an eye (interestingly enough, turning into a lion as I did)

I traveled up a massive vortex spire, similar to what is described as Mount Meru. Until I burst through into a semi-physical dimension, which glowed of a golden white light, different to any other I had ever seen

A council of giant beings lined the inside walls where I entered. Bodies all made of luminous glowing light. Heads shining a light so brilliant, they shone like suns, impossible to look at

They all seemed to be some type of avatars. Asleep, connected to forms of themselves, elsewhere. As I guess, I myself would have been asleep, before entering my avatar

One awoke, and asked what I was doing back so early

When they hugged me, I felt a warmth and love like family, but also a tremendous electrical like force, pulsating between their head and my own. Like polarised magnets, or orbs, which are not supposed to be as close to each other as they are when hugging

This place felt familiar to me like home, while I was there. But also felt something like a dimensional laboratory

I told them my friend I had returned to collect the turtle, to take it to Earth with me

They did not seem to like the idea, but did not try to stop me. Only warned me “do not let it breed with anything else on Earth, because it lives for 15,000 – 20,000 years”

This turtle seemed very different to the turtles in this world. It felt like something very ancient, sacred and beautiful

Though, I did not get to see it. As I placed my hands into a large black hole to collect it, I was ripped back to Earth into my physical body

My point is, that 3 allows you to go anywhere, across time, space and creation. And align with anything, or anyone

Source, God, unity, or otherwise

I have felt the solemn longing for home, standing on the bow of a viking vessel, sailing silently across the cold night waters of the most beautiful and calm fjord I have ever seen. Watching the moon and clouds in great detail. Watching a blue glowing bio-luminescence passing under the boat, with caution

I have stood on the verge of breathtaking cliffs. Impossibly big, seemingly larger than anything we have in this world. In a world where the curvature of the horizon seemed immense compared to our own. Like I was on a much larger planet

I have experienced deaths, real enough to now say I know what it feels like to be stabbed in the chest by a spear or sword. I tasted the steel in the back of my throat. Felt the feeling of weakness and panic, at being able to pull it from my body

Waking up crying because I can still feel the physical pain and sadness of dying and having my life taken from me unfairly early. Pains which can take quite some time to subside after waking

Real experiences, far removed from any dream I have ever experienced in my 30 years prior to being initiated

I know what it is like to experience deaths, pains, joys, pleasure, lives and worlds, in places and times, other than in my own waking world

These are just a couple of examples of many experiences like this

The point being, that the “sphere” we see as “mind” is not limited to the seat of our physical body

Nor to dimensional perception such as width, depth and height. Left and right, up and down

It can be extended across all torus, spheres or cells

It is fairly simple through meditation, to "collapse" your physical form into the sphere of mind, free from these dimension perceptions. So that your hands, arms, legs, feet and entire torso, feel as though they have been shrunk down into a small ball in the middle of your forehead

Which is free to roam through time and space, without any limitations like width, depth, height, left, right, up, down, forward or reverse

There is no need to "travel" within such structure. Within the orb of focus, you can phase directly anywhere, or within anyone, at any time. Easily and instantly

Within such, things like distance and time, do not exist

Within 4, you cannot do this. 4 aligns across the linear planes, to the structure and systems relative to the sphere. With your  linear physical bodies and appendages, projecting "measure" such as distance and time

It is reference within the physical. Which, as I stated before, has very little to do with the first 3 spheres

In Illumination we see systems of 4 as within linear perspective, as limitation. Which usually only exist for the purposes of interaction and communication within the physical mediums

They are, generally, not something which is supposed to be analysed. As to do such, is either as redundant, or recursively pointless, as reflecting upon a reflection

I am not saying that systems and rules of 4 are not important, because of course to exist within this world, communicate and interact, they are incredibly important

I am just saying that these systems are "subject" to the source, not of the source itself. And should not be considered in any way of the source itself

Unless your intention is to cut yourself off from your own potential



The concept of “you” that you referring to, where you shake your hand and look at it in space, means you are wired to perceive yourself (in mind) and the construct of your existence, as emanate and subject of a physical form (4, 5, 6)

Which at its “conceptual” minimum, is 6^th dimensional

Though more precisely, “looking at your hand” or perceiving your physical form, as relative to construct or mind, is perception between the 60^th to 69^th dimensions (or degrees)

What we refer to as "gravity" (for example) is the 36th dimension (or degree)

The first 9 dimensions are conceptual

This means, there is no width, depth, height. There is no physical body, with no hand, no planet, nor physical form of any sort. Only concepts, within which geometric principles can be applied, through which such things can eventually come to exist

All “negative form before zero” as you described, would again, be subject to a sphere of influence, before such dimensions could exist. Regardless of whether it could be perceived by us within our own spectrum

Consideration of these things is the same as cancelling out sound waves. Redundant to form

“Dark matter” and negative spectrum or dimension, are merely a type of gateway, through which a phased reality can be allowed to exist, persist and sustain itself. Through itself



When I gave you this diagram, I was not being figurative about the correlations and universal alignment listed within it

The black hole in the centre of the galaxy is not “like” the pupil of your eye. “It is” the pupil of your eye

We exist in a phased reality

The external body of the universe outside of us, is very literally the exact same one as the internal body, of the body you walk around in

It merely exists in phase

Considerations of negatives outside of this phase relationship between internal and external body, are irrelevant

They, like concepts of God, are unknowable by design of the system

But the system itself, is all knowable, from creation to decay

We are merely a directional phase within the medium, experiencing cycles which shift through each other, limiting in perception to the spectrum of our particular sphere of influence, within it

If we were able to look at the sky, and see into the relative spectrum or dimension of “space” and things like we call “dark matter', we would see flesh and blood

Space would appear as a network of bloody entrails and tissue, with electrical pathways between it. Suns concentrating like neurons in the brain. Electrical pathways coursing between them, no different to those within the human brain


What exists “negatively” is only an illusion of our directional perception, as beings native to the sphere of the Earth in which we were formed

To those born on a different planetary system, with a different mathematical (geometric) configuration to our own system, we (and our world) could be completely invisible

Theoretically, our worlds could even inhabit the same space, within different spectrum. Without one being aware of the other

Like two people in the same town who have never met, and do not know each other exist

The “reality” is, that we do not need to travel through space to find other inhabitable planets. All we need do is talk to another person. This is the same as visiting another planet

We are all formed in much the same way, through exactly the same processes. So the perspective of things such as planet, stars, etc, appears the same. Even if we exist within our own world, we still exist within the common. It is just the alignment between these two that is tricky

It could be that we are all be living on different planets, in much the same way we live in different houses, with different seats of physical perspective

But whether or not we are, is irrelevant. The potential of our influence and alignment is the same regardless

If indeed we do end up needing to physically travel through space, it will not need be in a craft designed to travel linearly across measurements of distance. It will be within an orb able to shift (phase) through to higher or lower spectrum of dimension

Much like zooming out on a digital map, to then zoom in on somewhere on the other side of the world. Moving to the other side of the universe, instantaneously

Except within the relation of our bodies physical structure, to the universe

The “unity” that you speak of, in reality, is all we are

Everything beyond this is an illusion of directional precept, allowing linear perception

But every sphere is the same

We stretch across the phase in transit of cycles, giving us the polarised, dual nature of things formed around a source which is passed through/within every sphere, at ever level

The influence stretches from the largest spheres of the universe, to the smallest of cellular construct

We exist in between the push/pull of the phase relationship between them

Body <==> Bodies
- Gravity
Magnetism <==> Polarised Magnetism
- Time
Growth <==> Age

The Freemason understanding of the concept of sacred utterance is a little off. Like many teachings they aligned to their order, it is based off of Illuminated understanding and processes, within various ancient mystery schools

But as with what is described in the story of Hiram Abiff, those who properly understood the secrets were gone

Meaning, many of the teachings of modern Freemasonry (as with certain religions) are based off the translations and understanding of those who never actually went through any type of genuine initiation. At least, not under the guidance of any that could be considered ascended

In Illumination a sacred utterance is any word (usually within single syllable relation), which is phonetically pure to both the meaning of the word, and the symbol or number

Within numbers, there is a very particular phonetic sequence, which is “sacred”, which is the EXACT meaning of the the sequence, as well as the symbols for the number, and the word used to convey within language

A sequence, which tells the story of creation

1 – Un
2 – To
3 – The

“Un to the” as a process, can be related to thought, emerging from your mind
“Un to the” as a process, can be related to a God bringing forth creation
“Un to the” as a process, can be related to the big bang, forming the universe
“Un to the” as a process, can be reltaed to the sun, shining its light forward to promote life
“Un to the” as a process, can be philosophy. It can be psychology. It can be religion. It can be spirituality. It can be medicine. t can be the astronomy. It can be astrology. It can be physics. It can be biology. It can be geometry. It can be mathematics

It can be the basis of any conceptual reality

It is the process of “creation” itself

Which is the primary sequence we call “numbers”

But, it can also be formative to “decay”. Which is the secondary sequence we call “letters/words”

(Hiram Abiff - “Decay apparently”)

This is what makes it sacred

“Un to the” relating to “1, 2, 3” is geometrically perfect, as a process across both internal and external manifested spheres

There is a very specific sequence from 1 – 12. Which are the dimensions of first perspective concept

One that I will not give publicly. But which very specifically, and undeniably, tells a story of creation

And there are versions of this sequence, that are relative to any of the “aspects” within that creation, or individual perception of source

They are phonetic keys, within language. Connecting the limiting “decay” system of letters and words, to the unlimited “creation” system of numbers

NUMBER = CREATION
LETTERS = DECAY

Like Arthur pulling the sword from the stone

Record yourself saying the name “Arthur” and play it backwards. It will still say Arthur, regardless of if you play it backwards or forwards

The limitation within language (particularly "English") is what the story of the sword in the stone is about

Pull your intention within creation, from within the limitation of the applied layers of decay above it? You will earn the right to rule England, and its language

This is another type of “sacred” phonetic key. One which cannot be limited by the algorithm of connective language

It is the same reason I refuse to use full stops at the ends of paragraphing

And why I write in concise verse structure

In Illumination, we spend many years studying language, to free ourselves from its limitations. Down to understanding the meaning of the individual symbols we use for our numbers and letters

We study things like semiotics, phonetics, morphology, phonology and syntax to a degree that very few people in this world ever will

We break down all possibly combinations of a words formation and phonetics, correlating it not only forwards, but backwards

Looking for phonetic matches in words, with the same meaning read backwards as forwards. To find algorithmic "keys" within the language

These keys can give you tremendous insight into people and their use of language, which they do not know they are giving you. That most would be helpless to prevent "showing you", even if they were aware of it

This is a major part of how we re-wire our brains to think in both directions cyclically, instead of linearly

For years we read everything, both backwards and forwards. Words backwards, sentence forwards. Whole sentence backwards. Words forwards, sentence backwards. Cutting not only the sentence to pieces to pieces, but the individual words within them, to form sometimes hundreds of “alternate algorithm” meanings and translations

One simple three word sentence, can be broken down in hundreds, if not thousands of hidden meanings and messages. Especially when you start using alternate phonetics

It is a rather painful process to go through. As once you have trained your brain to start recognising the patterns fluidly to a significant extent, the world begins to bombard you with “messages” constantly

To the point of madness, in public places where you are surrounded by atmospheric input

Like the world realises you can “see and hear” it, and suddenly decides it want to tell you everything, about everything, all at once

These patterns are not “chaos” as many believe them to be. It simply feels that way, while your brain is being impossibly overloaded

It simply takes many years of training your brain, to see them and forget them, taking only the important things you need to see from the overload of possibilities. It is a process of alignment, that feels like having your mind destroyed. Excruciating painful, both mentally and physically. Until you adjust to the new pathways and blood flow in your brain

But this alignment, aligns you within much more than just patterns of numbers and language

It aligns you within those around you as well

You will hear a stranger say something in passing to their friend, which is relevant to the exact thing you were thinking of at the time

A woman at the shopping centre, telling her friend “don't forget cereal for Sam”. Which is my name

Reminding me, just as I was about to leave the supermarket, that I also needed to get cereal

Cereal, which ended up being the exact same cereal she was buying for her Sam

Much like the friend of yours ringing with a pain in their back, exactly like mine. Just after you read my post (mine in in my back, under the right should blade, extending down behind the ribs)

This type of alignment is constant, once you train your brain to recognise the patterns

The more you recognise the patterns, the stronger, more pronounced and noticeable these alignments within the world become

I will see a snake slithering across the road as a leave my friends house. Two days later (on the 3^rd night) I will see one slithering opposite to this on the road outside my house, as I am arriving home

Things that happen on one side, then happen exactly the same (or near identical) on the other side

Apparently, this is part in parcel of becoming a centre of gravity within a logos. Things around you begin to gravitate within balanced internal/external cycles

I will not go too deep into this, other than to say it is part of what I was originally speaking about, when I came to find helpfuldemon, about needing to isolate during initiation

I sometimes find myself actively having to ensure I do not inadvertently influence someone to my alignment

Making them want to give me something, or act in a way they would not normally act, because of their interactions with me

Then, to your question about concentrating on my affliction …

I never said my affliction was a problem

I genuinely appreciate your help with it, and you are right, that it is something similar to what people describe as a hydra …

Something particularly unpleasant to feel, emerging out of your face (mouth and nose), as well as your rear-end, in the middle of the night

Something which feels like an invisible octopus curling its tentacles around your face and thighs, and there is nothing you can do about it

I would, of course, love for it to be finally over, which is why I am grateful to any of your suggestions on what could speed along the process

But I do not see it as a problem

More as a necessary process. Something I must endure, until it finishes its purpose in realigning me across dimensions

Its purpose is to seek out and triggers pain (mind), fear (heart) and impurities (body) within me

A process, during which I am polarised across the medium

Within this, if you resist it, you are only resisting a mirror of yourself it applies to you

helpfuldemon seemed to me, to have a very, very deep understanding of what happens when you are “aligned” in such a way, polarised to fight a version of yourself

Which says to me they are genuine initiate. Yet, I do not understand why their guardians did not give them very particular and relevant keys they needed towards the understanding they have

It is almost like taking someone out into the cold rain, where you know they are going to be miserable. Then leaving them there

Which is why I came to share some of what I know

I have only ever encountered one other person online, who has been through this process, before I read his thread on levels of initiation

If I manage to complete my purge, the "hydra" will have pulled everything it needs to from all spheres of my form, and it will leave me

And I will carry a light in this world, that very few people ever achieve

As I said before, I am hoping the end is Easter this year, which will mark the end of the 12^th year

12 years since I met the woman with the blood-red hair, where the water meet. The woman who I await to return, that I call “soul-mate”. Loved for 12 years, without any contact

I'll either succeed in beating the affliction, or it will kill me

I am not really worried either way (though I would obviously prefer the primer, to the latter)

I only mentioned the affliction, to explain why it takes me some time to read through things and respond

Thanks again for your help. I do appreciate it

Hopefully, I've given you something helpful in return

Edited December 30, 2023 by Compendium
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