Mizu

Hi guys, I went to Max Christensen's seminar. Been practicing, extreme hardcore, for the last 4 years. In that time, I've rapidly aged. I've lost my youth, heart, passion, energy. I just cry and cry and cry and cry and lay in bed. I have very bad anxiety. I feel fragile, weak, exhausted. I read Falon Gong and keep thinking when Tao energy increases in the body, we get purified and purification symptoms arise, much like Kundalini people speak of. That's a great theory. But in all honestly, what if this is a demonic snake energy practice, that uses us as human batteries to feed it? http://starlightskundaliniblog.wordpress.com/tag/falun-gong/ I've gotten SO MUCH WORSE in the past 4 years than I've ever been in my entire life. I can barely feel love for anything. I [think?] I get better when I don't practice, but as soon as I do, the low energy and depression comes back. So my question, please save my life, is this: Any long-term, regular Kunlun practicioners, can you please tell me what effects you have experienced in your life, before and after? Are we getting sicker and worse off? Or is your life TRULY better?

Hey all, what is the point of continually working to quiet the mind, and attain a constant state of "no-mind" in the world.. is this beneficial at all? What's the end goal of this? Thank you for sharing, I Want to know if it will be worth my while to work to achieve this goal of Continually Still Presence... and what it does... is it simply to "See things as they truly are" so our minds don't hurt us with illusions / fear / mis-perceptions, or is there more to it? Like Samadhi or healing or anything else like that? thank you

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The wtf is the point of meditation and all these practices? To lead us to the heart center? Which then needs to pour out to EVERY aspect and avenue of our lives and existence here? Or is there more to it?

Okay, so I am *Everything*, all potentials.. I can be a female, a male, a tree, a squirrel, a planet... only limited by my ego. Yes? So then, again I ask, if this is the Cosmic Joke... my work now is to create RIGHT[virtuous]? Assuming Awakening is this great realization of our infinite capacity, our True Self - simple, yet incredible at the same time, and then Enlightenment is SELF-REALIZING Virtue in the essence of Truth, or rather BECOMING LOVE - in the image of God or w/e you want to see it as, akak PERFECT )or whatever the soul desires to BE now) yes? I feel like there is no more need to 'know' anything, like, now I just need to BE and KNOW any form of Truth I want to experience with Self. *** OH, and serious question: Do I need to even meditate anymore? I mean, what's the point?

So it's all just a dream then... And then I would need to now "dream" in a more, pleasurable "enlightened" virtuous way since I now see myself as infinite and without limits? Like I'm now awoken from the nightmare now dreaming that I have a perfect healthy body healed of it's sicknesses, perfect harmonious relationships... a constant state of joy etc, my goal is now to realize and now BE this...?

Intellectual. So then, does that mean I am false and there's more to this Enlightenment thing, or do I need to simply start to force-focus my mind in such a way that is on Right Virtue.. like love in every moment, perfect health, glowing radiant body, seeing Oneness in the all with everyone, etc? Or, do I need to LOSE my mind and continue to cultivate continual stillness [awareness] - or, does that simply bring me right back to realizing that it's ALL ME and I am creating all of it, so it's just one big loop when stilling your mind? Or are all these questions utterly meaningless because I am now awake and already "there" I just need to start correcting myself and my mis-creations in my un-enlightened state. i.e "After enlightenment, the laundry." -Old Zen Proverb ??? Please share wisdom. <3 ~m

Truly meaning the essence of TRUTH itself. Ie... this is a cup. That is truth. It is a cup. ISness. Truth. So, TRULY, 'wholly' realizing a state of whatever one wills, in truth. Ie perfect health, perfect love, perfect bliss, perfect samadhi, perfect siddhis ie levitation or walking on water, etc. Virtue. And is this where compassion comes into play? Because people don't know Who They Really Are (infinite, omnipotent HERE AND NOW etc) so they don't realize they're falsely believing themselves into thinking they are limited? So like when a teacher points inside them and tries to show them that and then they go; "Oh.. I just need to practice this spiritual technique for X amount of years, THEN I will be enlightened and free!" THAT is where compassion comes into play? Because you are sad they are putting self-imposed limitation on their perfect, infinite Self? "Uhhh, you can be enlightened and free RIGHT NOW and you don't need to sit in a cave for 20 years to realize that... it's all about beliefs..." And I meant "pretending" in the sense that we are all walking around true GODS acting like goddam fools! Putting self-imposed limitation over our perfect, unlimited Self - here & now. So yes, thanks for the warning, I guess that was the incorrect usage of that particular word. edit: so if someone didn't "Truly believe", they did not fully realize the essence of the Truth [iSness] they were seeking. They muddied the waters, so to speak. Make sense? Did I hit the nail on the head with this whole "Awakening" business, or what?

Can someone now please explain to me how my realization was limited? MY REALIZATION: I mean, being infinite, all powerful, limited only by our belief structures (thoughts, attachments & egos) - is that not INSTANT enlightenment, or does this "awakened state" entail something more? It is my belief that buddha just sat down under a tree and was like... "OH... It was ME the entire time!!! 17 years of breathing just to realize THIS? HaHaHa COSMIC JOKE!" So my theory is that once he understood he was creating his own reality then from then on he understood the necessity to only think of Right Virtue, which he teached, that healed himself, and his world. Am I wrong in stating/realizing/assuming this? That we are ALL already "awake" perfectly realized divine creative beings, pretending we are not or imposing limitation on our already perfect unlimited Self? Is that the great "A-HA!" of 'enlightenment' ??? To see that YOU ARE CREATING ALL OF IT??? So you have no Self except that which you create? You are everything, and nothing. Yes? So it's like.. no 'practice' does *Anything* per say, only reveals us to ourselves... like, if I believed standing on my head chanting "OMMM CHOCK NOK SLOK OHMMMMM" over and over again would bring me Gold Dragon Body and Samadhi, and I FULLY and TRULY believed it would (even though it would be me the entire time) than it WOULD, right? So I've ARRIVED... but I've never really left? Is this it? Input highly appreciated.. thanks..

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Are all these methods truly needed? Can not enlightenment be found through breath alone? I guess that just takes longer eh? DVD looks interesting... what do you think he means as far as "brain evolution", I have seen/heard with these methods that the brain shape will enlarge over time. I myself have developed a ridge... I guess we just become smarter or have a more 'evolved' view of reality than most regular non-practicin' folk? :wub:

Breathe more deeply more regularly, drink lots of lemon water, and CHILL OUT. I had acne super bad as a kid, but it was only in times of deep stress. I'm highly convinced it's all just a psychological manifestation - I've had friends who literally eat fast food every night and have spotless perfect complexions.

I find weightlifting opens me up. I get a lot of buzzing tinglies of bliss (Wtflol) after an intense lifting sesh. Squats ftw. Btw your thoughts produce reality. FEEL and THINK "scrawny weakling" and manifest it accordingly. You've been warned. "Hardgainer" my ass, it's all your thoughts/beliefs about your body that helps shape it man! FEEL strong BE strong. Peace. ~Mizu

Lol, okay. I get it. Thank you, Max. And I mean that brother. Was a funny one man, I liked the path.

Okay, I'll strive to become a spiritual "winner" like this guy. A "worthy" one. Forget the comforts and modern luxuries of the fleeting sense pleasures of the material world (like food and a bed)! That guy is in bliss! (In actuality he probably is.. he closes his eyes and sees white pulsating lights TOUCHING GOD and moans in ecstasy, but at the end of the day he's just a weird dude sitting alone in a dark cave with no friends and NO LIFE moaning to himself. Wow, what a treasure... but at least he's happy right?) Sorry If I am offending anybody, and believe me, I reached ECSTATIC BLISS during kunlun so I've "made the journey up the mountain" so to speak, I just think it's so funny how it was ME the entire time. I completely lost my ego because I'm infinite. I feel the purpose of life is joy and following your heart. You can become enlightented through tantric sex, through staring at a flower, through playing the guitar... it's not an end destination, it's just WAKING UP to WHO YOU REALLY ARE, and this is just my opinion... who you really are is GOD. Limited in realizing I'm unlimited and infinite? I, and yes YOU, are all GOD.. completely in utter control of our own experience. Wow, sounds pretty limited huh. People tend to get pissed off when their ego blinders are removed. Emotional reactions simply mean I've hit on something that's quite possibly rocking your reality, sir. I would very much love an intelligent discussion, as this realization I just had that all that bliss and wild movement was "ME" the entire time is... huge. :blink: I feel so FREE.

Thanks guys. I'm literally shaking and crying as I read your words and realizing how stupid I was wasting all this time, energy, and MONEY on this bullshit. YES - I take full responsibility for my life, Kunlun didn't "do" any of that in my life, I DID. But the point is, I was brainwashed to believe it was some mystical art that would bring me "bliss" and "Salvation" and "siddhis" and all this CRAP. Looking back on what has happened, I feel so much sadness for how distant I've become from my family, my goals, my relationships with friends... ALL I wanted to do was sit in my fucking room with the door closed making weird body movements and noises, mind-creating orgasms... alone and sad and miserable. Thanks for your support. I just have a lot to go through right now... my whole sense of reality has just been shattered. I haven't feel this ALIVE in years though, so that's good. But I can't help but feel like the rug was pulled out from underneath me. I don't know where to go now... I think I will just start being who I was before I started down this toxic path. Any words of wisdom or courage to help me now ( I know I am talking like it's a big dramatic deal but to me it really is.. I put my whole heart into this.. drug/mental parasite) would be very much appreciated. P.S. also, can someone shed light on the "real" path? IS it just meditating and releasing thoughts? Thank you. I thought I was spiritually "advanced" but now I feel like an infant.

hey so my names marc. pretty much I have poor eyesight, and occasionally I'll get these things called CLEARFLASHES and BANG! I'll have 20/20 perfect vision and feel really good and my heart light energy expands my awareness into the world... then BANG it sucks and shrinks back and im stuck in tension and pain in my eyes. I've been searching long and hard how to keep that flowing perfect state a constant... hope to help people on their path, and recieve help on mine. take care everyone!

Hello everyone! I'm new here. I hope you'll read my story as its VERY interesting... Okay so basically for the longest time I always thought I had a lazy eye in my left eye. So whenever talking to people for years and years I would always squint that eye to "hide it" anyways, oneday I noticed people squinting back at me and almost like a flinch from them mirroring me. One day, and this is what got me searching for answers, we got a new kitten and she comes up to me and her left eye starts squinting too!!!!! It's like this black hole negative energy field thats affecting everyone. Sometimes when I talk to people they even rub their left eye and feel uncomfortable. So I started practicing Kunlun Bliss... and some weeiiiirrrrdddd things are happening. I think I'm starting to "see" energy... for example I'm sitting in class today and I look at my teacher and I swear its like I see this black smoke cloud start forming around her left shoulder and she keeps moving her head towards it, almost like a nervous tick / jerk. When she moves the cloud sort of follows her. I'm just like WHOA what the hell... then, I feel my eye start hurting (the left one) and I look and my teachers left eye starts closing and its almost like black smoke / darkness / pain body / whatever you wanna call it is surrounding her eye and mine starts HURTING and then her voice fluctuated a little bit like a nervous person, she sort of moves her head back... then it got even weirder. like this GOLDEN whitish light started SURROUNDING her left eye socket and shoulder, the black smoke disappears, and then all of a sudden her whole body seemed to subtly glow golden light and she went back to normal happy smiling teaching mode... then all of a sudden I felt my eye and NO PAIN, I felt LIGHTER, it was like a good giggly feeling inside... even the guy next to me kept looking at me and we were laughing together almost for no reason.. Can anyone explain this or help me? I'm sort of scared, this is so far out of most peoples realities they probably wont even believe me.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Never have I received so much love and help from a community b4 . I am (can't wait!!!) going to a kunlun seminar with one of the lead instructors, I cant wait to get a portion of his magnetic energy transfered. I heard he might be able to do private healings too. Oh and I didn't mention this either but... Also when I do kunlun bliss practice, I feel this NUMB tingling dark energy under my left eye... it usually stays with me all day then goes dormant after it saps my vitality and energy. (I've had dark circles under my eyes for years for no reason) It's almost as if kunlun forces it to the surface, do you guys have any tips for transmuting the negative blocked energy or releasing it? Thank you again oh and I THINK sooo much every day. Should I start meditating? What should be my focus, still mind for as long as possible? I mean, I can barely listen to people speak or pay attention in class or even be present because my mind chatter is so much... I hope so. That's exactly why I got into this energy / spiritual work in the first place (to improve my eyesight)... here read this its really cool.. [originally posted by me 1 month ago on tolle forums]

OKAY... WHOA..... guys. I just got REALLY sleepy after typing this. So I decided to take a nap. I put my head down for what must of been 20 mintues, and then the dream beagan. It was me, outside of my body, looking at my body laying in bed, and all of a sudden I felt INTENSE fear like, I thought I was going to die. I was being DRAGGED/PULLED towards my closet across the floor, almost like I was A TRAIN, this HUGE magnetic pull. My feet were tingling and on fire when I woke up. Dudes, it was like how in kunlun bliss it says " surrender to your divine flow " or when eckhart tolle was being "sucked into the void and a voice said 'resist nothing' or ever heard "go with the flow of the universe" anyoneeeeee experience anything like this?? Should I stop resisting this fear of death in these moments and "go with the flow" ? I'm afriad I'll die in my sleep. which might be a good thing as I am tremendously suffering right now. (I being my ego, aka pain body aka illusions) but what if I dont wake up and end up being pulled into the afterlife, leaving my body? scared, confused, mizu edit...so i looked up the direction I was being VIOLENTLY pulled in on google maps and it appears to point from santa barbara, CA to SOUTHEAST which ends up being the south of africa, cape town area... the odd thing is, that looks like where all the original land masses originated and 'fit' together like a puzzle... uhhh maybe I'm looking too much into this but if thats the case, thats the source of all life aka the begining formation of our very planet? who knows :| maybe I'm just mumbling