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I know some of ya'lls like to follow the "science" I used to watch this channel, if you do follow science, then you are aware, that it changes. Shouldn't be any surprise, as all things change. Still, I found this guy easy to listen to. There are many many others out there reading the research papers and regurgitating it for you. You are sure to find one or more that Appeal to you.

For a long long time. So yeah, a little bird chirped to me there is talk about TDB having a core of an older crowd. I chirped back to that little bird, stick around, you ain't seen nothing yet. Daoist Longevity Practices is definitely a thing. I'm sure talk will get around to Li Ching-Yuen. Let's start the thread by looking at DVD That's right Dick van Dyke looks at his 100 years, and he provides so many examples, lessons, thoughts, on longevity. If we imagine someone to have a positive outlook, ability to brighten up other's day, Relaxed physicality, ( if you need to see what song/sung looks like, look no further) Staying active, still goes to gym three times a week, to avoid stiffening up. And a sense of humor and a warm caring heart. This is how one gets Longevity. Yes, he is rich and that helps I'm sure. But being rich is not what defines him.

I took a short walk today, maybe 15 minutes. 3 minutes in, and a very nice and sleek eagle, white tail, white head, did 3 passes by me and let me see which tree he landed in. I've seen bigger eagle here, but this was probably the smoothest in flight. Nice aerial display. Just 25 feet up. My cats generally stay close to home, where they are safest

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What I like about November are these two great American Holidays. Song mentions drinking multiple times, got to get those sea legs somehow,,, Fun fact, if there was no US Air Force, the largest Air Force on the planet would be, drum roll please, The US Navy!!! Thing is, we do have a US Air Force!!! "If you should live to be a grey haired wonder; keep your nose out of the Blue" Apparently did not apply to Chuck Yeager That is quite a lot for any nations to contend with. And we got Marines They a little different breed And a Coast Guard too I don't personally know any Space Force Veterans. They beyond the Blue, above in the Black, I reckon, kinda ominous And there is the US Army Formidable for real. Won't even mention the 400 million civilian guns, and countless Militias Or the twenty states that have their own Guard, separate from the National Guard.

I get my rest and good sleep. And the 90 proof special reserve won't be added at lunch, dinner, or just snacking around. Plus, I like to get something accomplished, early in the day, so I carry that sense of accomplishment through the day. The grey cat clan, including one black, one calico, plus the 5 grey ones that have managed to remain here, have been feasting on roasted turkey breast for two days No wonder, I live in abject poverty... Heheh

Nicotine & caffeine for me. This morning, some Egg Nog, idk, if it's healthy or not. I did add a dollop of 12 year old Weller. Happy Holidays!

George Burns famously smoked cigars daily. Lived to 100. Che Guevara famously smoked cigars and didn't make it to 50. So ymwv, I'm no doctor, and am not prescribing or diagnosing here. I doubt it was cigar smoking that finished off Che Guevara. Maybe, stirring up revolutions in South America was the culprit So, a word to those who strive for longevity, don't go and get yourself executed.

We were not talking about other chemicals; we were specifically speaking nicotine. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-leading-edge/202506/the-hidden-healing-power-of-nicotine https://www.vumc.org/ccm/whynicotine

Nicotine? Oh yeah that's what's found in potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, and egg plants, used as a defense against insects.

Thank You Taomeow for sharing that. Endeavor to persevere. Resilient rhymes with resistant. No one is accusing me of "sanity" & I ain't everyone's cup of tea either. And a former mod team/admin once labeled me a 'cowboy' Well, the similarities I have in common with Clint likely end somewhere around there This thread is about keeping on keeping on. And doing it well. So dear bums, many of you in your youth, or arriving at some number, that may be messing a little with your mind,, Compare and contrast Dick and Clint. Both are still kicking. This thread gonna run like the Energizer bunny.

Creativity and Taoism by Chung-yuan Chang https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10487853-creativity-and-taoism Taoist health exercise book by Da Liu https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/608090.Taoist_health_exercise_book

just wanted to share some thoughts on the lighter side of things i hope at some moment of this day that you did experience some laughter?! was it a reaction from hearing a joke? were you being tickled? did you experience joy? or happiness? did you have an evil laugh?

I will provide an example that shows the problem does go on in purely technical physical sciences too, and has a long history . Back in the 1960s, during Cold War era, when it seemed there was nothing that good ol American engineering couldn't accomplish; especially with aircraft, Lockheed and Boeing announced they would produce supersonic passenger jets. For them, the sky was not a limit. However, the Concorde and a 😱 Russian TU144 achieved supersonic passenger aircraft before America. And into the 70s, Boeing still hadn't come up with one, science stepped in, warning about "potential" ozone damage. So, corruption and greed, has been around in human nature a long long time, and likely will remain until the end of days

Oh, I forgot this is a poetry thread. The truth is bent for gold, What pure inquiry knew. A noble purpose bought and sold, For what the balance sheet will hold The measured, merchant's due

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The Genies are out of the bottles and perhaps, rampant

Po has a firm root in the body and the desires of the body: sex, food, comforts, et al, and is the source of emotions. Hun can wander during dreams, meditation, inattentiveness, ,,it can have lofty aspirations. When it becomes a little too detached, there is a lack of grounding and can lead to mental instability. And if I can digress briefly here; this is why proper guidance is important regarding Qigong/energy practices. It's the mental deviations that are a concern. It isn't if you might strain a knee or have something physically go askew. And during the decade plus I've been on TDB, so many have said you need proper guidance for physicality issues! Which sends me into eye rolling exercises Back to narrow Hun & Po, Neidan topic. So the Hun nature and Po natures going their own ways leads to scattering of energies; Sidetracked and distracted mind, emotional turmoil, disease, less than a quality life, shortened life.... Hun (Spiritual energy) disperses and scatters. Po ( physical energy) becomes exhausted. Neidan proposes the solution for this problem by refining, uniting, further refining Hun and Po. The entire process of Neidan is specifically for this purpose.

Hun and Po are two of the aspects of our soul complex. Hun is Yang and associated with Heaven. It is our moral compass, allows access to higher consciousness and creativity, it is our connection to Divine realm and the Dao. As you mentioned, after death, Hun ascends (returns) to Heaven. It enters the physical body at birth. Po is Yin and associated with Earth. It gives us life, awareness, instincts, desires, After death, Po fades with the decay of the physical body In ordinary unrefined folks Hun and Po remain separate and their leanings and tendencies pull the individual in opposite directions. This is a problem. I will continue in a following post. I need to do some chores, chop wood, carry water, etc

That works. That works too as a distinction between Hun and Po. I am going to try and keep my responses in laymen's terms, middle of the road. Not to be mistaken for the Middle School. What I post will be broad strokes and not representing any particular school. I will avoid using terms like 'cinnabar field' 'yellow court' etc I won't go into finer details or specific practice/meditations. You didn't mention other considerations beyond Hun and Po. So, will keep a narrow focus on those. But I will, imo, fully address your OP I am no expert. I am a fellow bum participating in a discussion.

It's a really good question. I will offer some words and also Symbolism that I feel speaks clearer than just words to illustrate the concept. Nedan's idea is to refine and integrate the Hun and Po as a central part of the process to achieve Spiritual Immortality and Physical Well Being. Hun and Po are fundamental components of the framework of the process, as well as goals. If you need more understanding about Hun and Po, I suggest a new thread You can think of Hun as the software and Po as the hardware. As a human being you should functionally integrate both. That's what Neidan does; refines the ntegration. There is much more can be said and I know other bums will chime in. I just wanted to give a brief response to your question. Imo the abstract aspect of it could be addressed more directly in a thread detailing what is Hun and Po.

Imo, one of the most beautiful passages of the bible.