Apech

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  1. Soon a monk for sure.

    Full belly and empty head.

    What was in the wine?

     

     

    What was in the wine?

    Valpolicella? Asti?

    Maybe frizzante.

     

    Whatever's in it

    It tastes like water after

    Jesus has changed it.


  2. Xuanji Cultivation System is for the first-rate indivaduals who has open mind and wide heart, the third-rate indivaduals are not welcome definetely even if they would like to pay.

    I never stated the payment can be refunded, that is just in order to prevent the unready ones sneak into us. Unfortunately, this kind of thing still happened. I commiserate rookie very muh, but I will not break my rule to refund the money to him, otherwise, more third-rate indivaduals will have unrealistic dream of fluke.

    In internal cultivation, there is no fluke, any tricks are useless.

     

     

    So are you saying Rookie is third-rate and so was unable to benefit from your system. In which case why do you commiserate with him? Or are you saying he is not third rate - in which case why didn't he benefit and why does he want a refund?

     

    :unsure:


  3. great! the very best from 2008. Im a big fan! (sorry for the interrupt, I'll get out of the way)

     

    [ ...pitter then patter

    Can you hear that gentle sound?

    Rain is calling you...]

     

    Obrigado :)

     

    rabbits on acid

    luminous landscapes abound

    down the rabbit hole

     

     

    down the rabbit hole

    Alice chased a big white one

    Late, late, late again.


  4.  

    Arse, my friend, is arse. Pornography, however, is a human creation and a human pastime. All this experiment proves is that monkeys are swayed by the desires just as we humans are.

     

     

     

     

    Now that's what I call truth !!!!!!!!!!!!


  5. I wonder if this is quite so? If Roger Penrose (The Emporer's New Mind and Shadows of the Mind) is right about the microtubules and quantum entanglement as yet another and the fastest pathway for the mind-brain, even into the timeless now, as seems to be being experimentally supported currently, then doesn't that open new doors?

     

    My own experiential paths suggest that uncovering the techniques of mitochondrial group/masses communication is crucial and that they may also be microtubule sourced similarly; the reason being I'm inclined to think that chi may be a mitochondria-based physical pulsed phenomenon when we get right down to it. Mitochondria are our crucial energy converters, an originally independent life-form with complete communication capabilities as well as its own DNA, now fully integrated co-beings in the totality of us. The whole body mitochondrial hive-mind as an integral dimension of our sensory apparatus and hovering web of electrochemical/electromagnetic/quantum-entanglement mentality/consciousness: that is the working Artform Hypothesis. B)

     

    What do you think and how?

     

    artform

     

    I haven't read Penrose but obviously I should.

     

    Excellent - yes. But what would be the physiological process for detecting quantum effects and how would that relate to mitochondrial (or any other kind ) pulsing.

     

    BTW there seems to be two very similar threads - is this some kind of weird quantum effect itself?


  6. I think that the essential problem is that science sees consciousness as an epiphenomenon, that is something which arises through the complex interaction of physical processes, whilst Taoism and Buddhism regard consciousness/sentience as a primary attribute of 'that which is'. Quantum mechanics gets itself tied on knots over the observer and observed problem whilst I think we would have no problem with the idea of this interaction - i.e. the wave function of the observer is part of the equation.

     

    I doubt very much if any self respecting physicist would accept that it is possible to perceive quantum effects bodily as Qi for instance. They would say that we are constantly bombarded by cosmic rays for example and we cannot feel them. If they were to accept that such a sensitivity exists then they would look for experimental evidence for a measurable interaction which our nervous system could pick up and our brain interpret. I think they would at best see any Qi based description of quantum energy and so on as metaphorical at best.


  7. As far as Taoism and Buddhism goes where exactly should i begin my studies?

     

    Should i start by readin Tao Te Ching, I Ching

     

    personally whenever i want to know about a subject i always try yo find the source(history of it)

     

    as far as Buddhism i have heard of the dhammapada (are there any other books)and whwere do i find sutras such as the diamond sutra?

     

     

    If you are interested in mahayana and vajrayana Buddhism you could try here:

     

    http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/index.html


  8. I totally, and in principle agree, especially regarding the EU.

    Way too top heavy, and in an elitist sense, increasing alienation towards the whole concept of democratic process, where the distance btw citizen and executive power is huge.

    What is scary is when active and detail-oriented government is combined with belief in a captialist politics that ends up being protectionsistic, like in some sense both the US and the EU is. Much more so than say scandinavian country. What is the pragmatic solution in a comlex society that we live in is moderate governing and control over central aspects of the economy, like the mandate to control liquidity and interest, and securing the customers savings.

     

    As for your question regarding "them", isn't it much more realistic to see how these processes have a mind of its own, and seen from a buddhist philosophical viewpoint, there is no primal mover, as phenomena co-dependently arise, and there is no hidden master of puppets in the economy. The real world is way more arbitrary, chaotic and surreal than what we might think.

     

    only my 2 kr.

     

    Good discussion.

     

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    As for the

     

     

    From the perspective of Buddhist philosophy I agree that the credit crunch is exactly the product or phenomena of samaric existence driven by desire, ignorance and hate. Desire for wealth and the power it brings but in ignorance of its true nature; and hate arising when the object of desire is withdrawn or turns out not to deliver what it is perceived to provide i.e. some form of satisfaction.

     

    I would say that the world generally, both the natural world in terms of climate change and the social world in terms of the world financial crisis is in a period of decay. By this I mean that it is declining so that new things can emerge. Just as death is needed for life. Although I understand this it is quite scary in the sense of individual security. The big world changes, such as the fundamental political power shifts following the end of the cold war threaten any security which we might have had for ourselves and our loved ones - security that is which arises from the worldly situation.

     

    At one stage I became quite worried about things but then as a practitioner of meditation and 'inner work' I had to ask myself what I really believed - what I was really here for. And although I still worry I found that the inner security which comes from centering on spirit instead of the world was very reassuring. I felt that I had done enough ground work for this to happen and that in itself was a helpful feeling.

     

    The world is complex and chaotic - and two good examples are economies and the weather systems - but they still follow simple rules (see chaos theory). And I am sure that there are people and groups of people who seek to capitalize on the situation to gain more power and they do this through manipulation. Ok they are deluded and confused because they do not really understand the nature of reality but they still operate. I do not think this is really a conspiracy theory but more a realistic assessment. People who are of the power seeking mind set are not interested in the welfare of other sentient beings but only in what advantage they can gain.


  9. This guy is f'n brilliant. He basically says that

    . As above, so below. And essentially, we are far too yang, and HIGHLY yin-deficient! Our entire world has the same problem as most people walking around today - weak kidneys and waayy too much yang fire...

     

    We all need to cool off and get rehydrated!

     

     

    Thanks vortex that's really interesting.


  10. OK

     

     

    Scientists have proven that cats have more hair on one side then their other side. Some people believe that this is because when cats lay on their side they need insulation from the cold on the floor or ground. Which side of a cat has more hair?

     

     

    ??????????????


  11. Well, eyes open :wacko: . I'm just throwing opinions around for the heck of it. This is way more complex than we'd ever wrap our brains around. The bow is returned.

     

    Apologies for dozing off on this thread.

    This is really not about economics. It is about the fact that in the latter part of the last century, capitalism was made political in the sense that it was suddenly the only, and best solution. We know today, that capitalism, in the liberalist sense has failed utterly to provide us with a safe, viable economic system.

    The reason for the economic collapse is the conscious political choice to view minimal interference from federal institutions as a way to create value, and involment as a hinderance to economic growth.

     

    We know better after witnessing how the federal authoraties now invests heavily into the private banks for the first time since the 30s.

     

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    I can see where you are coming from Hagar in terms of good government but my original point was to ask if anyone had considered if it was possible that the current difficulties were brought about deliberately in order to create popular support for increased global government. If this was the case, and I am not saying it definitely is, then the motivation is not really that benign. It was a genuine question. While you may favour increased federal involvement I personally only want government at a level at which I can influence in some way. This is absent in institutions such as the European Union where decision making is opaque and non-consultative. I do not object to the Union in principal but just the actual union which we have ended up with.

     

    It is definitely true that it seems beyond the power of national governments (even the USA) to directly influence the money markets. Even if they pour $700b into it! In Britain, Gordon Brown came up with quite a sensible package but the market failed to respond as hoped, which just leaves everyone crossing their fingers and hoping. But you have to ask what brought about the credit crunch. The answer lies in the deregulation of the sector, the promotion of greed - and even more in the need to create the appearance of growth in the economies of the US and Europe over the last 10 years through investing and reinvesting in the housing market. In other words we had to seem richer than we really were for reasons of international power politics and the rise of China and India as economic powers. What has happened now is that the bubble has burst and the value of everything has deflated down to where it should have been in the first place (or will eventually). Well - who created that situation? Not us - it was created by 'them', whoever they are. We are the victims of it and how do we know that the solutions proposed by the same people who created the problem will be any more benign, or any less manipulative?


  12. I'm getting really fed up the idea of equating trust in a responsible government to being willing to slavery. Why are you guys so afraid of governmental involvment? It is the absence of involment that has made the financial crisis we are looking at today. And it is the absence of resonsible government that make people suffer, not the opposite. For some very odd reason, living in one of the countries in the world with the least federal interference, you are so afraid of it. why? What are we in Norway then? Slaves?

     

    If we view neoliberalism, as the adage of the western governmental systems as "the best solution" so far, we humbly experience the results now. Do you really think that extended federal powers are BAD? It is their complete lack of regulating the capital and finance markets that created the situation in the sub-prime area in the first place.

     

    In Scandinavia, which is dangerously social-democratic, the federal bank went in at an early stage of a similar crisis in the liquidity of big banks. If the U.S government had been more active, and regulated the marked instead of this ridiculous lassaiez faire model, then maybe millons of people would not have lost their money and homes.

     

    The only way to protect common interest (not the bank interest) is to let a governmental body of supra-national judicial power be the true sovereign of the global financial market, in the same way the the U.N was supposed (and hopefully will again) to work. This is necessary because the global liberalist ideology is destroying the possibility of the poor countries to actually make a viable place in the global market, and as an old "evil" economist said: Free trade will sooner or later end up in monopoly or cartels, and when that happens, the economy will collapse. I think we're there now, and it's not because some conspiracy.

     

    Without going deep into macroeconomics, a responsible, disinterested federal bank, acting out of interest for the common good is by far the better solution.

    phew. off my chest.

     

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    If that is what we get then your arguments make sense. But actually what we will probably get is a central bank run by the same vested interests which are manipulating the situation to bring it about.

     

    I agree that not all government is bad and I also think that if you are interested in inner work then you have to work within the existing system - whatever that is. But it is also important to be as aware as possible of the mechanisms which are used to control society because this is part of learning about the human condition.