Apech

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I can't don't want something we have already Mr Apech. So what's next ?

I think what is missing is a convincing idea on an alternative way to live. I mean an alternative to the various forms of capitalism. I know they exist but they don't emerge as attractive or convincing to large numbers of people. When people vote at the moment (no matter how we may argue) we are voting about shades of the same grey. There doesn't seem to be a way for someone to put forward a radical new way to live which gets popular support of any kind. It has to be appealing, practical and meet peoples needs.

After WWII in Britain there was a landslide victory for Labour (Socialist) ... rejecting Churchill who had led the country through the war. They then implemented the national health service, education reforms, housing programmes and so on. I know this is an anathema to Americans but the fact is it was a democratic choice freely made by people who had made sacrifices and lost a whole lot during the war. So in the late 1940's socialism was seen as a viable alternative which would meet peoples needs.

Now (despite the current crisis) we are so much richer and our lives have changed. So no one wants or sees any advantage in old style socialism .... and there is no real communism anymore.

So we need a new alternative model for living which is also economically viable.

Still havent ever been able to catch the red spot pointed this way!

As long as there's no red spot on Uranus.

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but maybe doom is a good thing, want some?

I'll stick with my regular gloom, thanks.

My birthday is march 20th, around then there is always something weird happening in space

Also with the time differences around the world, I'm two zodiac signs at the same time

 

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

I agree ... you are doomed. Too bad.

If China does not become the dominant "superpower", with Chinese as the default world language, by the end of my lifetime. I'll be ... flabbergasted

You might be immortal.

I'm not sure I buy this 'rise of China and India' idea entirely. I cannot justify my feeling rationally and there is no doubt their economic power is growing. But somehow I feel its too predictable ... and history is not like that. Historians, like economists are great at predicting after the event ... but as to how the power in the world will shift in the coming years? who knows?

You can only deal with what is now. 'There is only now .. tomorrow doesn't exist' (to quote Lady Toda from Shogun (lol)).

I suspect the main tension will be between the New World Orderists and those who do not want Global Govt. (or at least Global Financial Institutional Control) ... how that will shape up will be interesting.

Works in Australia

Yes but I think you need a criminal record to live there don't you?

I apologize, my sense of humanity was getting in the way of my sense of humor again.

Hello Encephalon,

 

Nice post. I appreciated much of what was said by the original author. A point that I particularly found interesting was his assertion that weare avoiding energy dependence because of the massive amounts of money made by military contractors because of our involvement in foreign affairs.

 

My personal opinion is that we shouldn't have any interest or involvement in what the rest of the world does, but rather worry about our domestic policy. The cold war is long gone, and our naive belief that one power would take over and rule the world if we didn't stand to defend it, is (I pray) over as well.

 

As far as the position of president, I think it's very different today than it was intended to be back in the 18th century.

 

Aaron

On a serious note also ... I hope the US does not stop its involvement in what the rest of the world does. A lot of mistakes have been made ... that is true ... but to retreat from the foreign policy agenda would create a massive power vacuum. God knows what would fill it. On a positive note look what the US did for Japan and Germany (and the rest of Europe including Britain) after WWII. After years of fighting against the Nazis and Japanese imperialism ... instead of retribution the US rebuilt both those countries and established a successful and peaceful future for them both. I am sure there was self-interest there but that's just how things work.

I think that the problem for the US has always been understanding the rest of the world properly. To understand you have to engage and avoid the kind of hubris which led to Vietnam and also the aftermath of Iraq.

I'd like to see a US president who really understands the rest of world not one who turns inward.

Very nice. Thanks for posting.

Are you joking? There's almost no way in hell this would happen.

 

I could speak about GB as well, but I don't want to be insulting to the people who unfortunately happen to live there.

Scotty - have you no sense of humour ... sorry humor?

You say almost no way it would happen ... therefor you have left open the possibility it might. I admire your realism. Jolly good show.

Why don't you guys just accept you would be far happier being part of Greater Britain again. Its been a 250 year experiment that quite frankly has been full of disappointment. Go to Boston, fish the tea bags out of the harbor, pay your taxes properly and we can arrange for proper parliamentary elections and a real democracy. All you have to do is swear allegiance to Her Majesty Elizabeth II and we will overlook your rebellious nature.

Very interesting and well written if I may say so.

I would suggest we move this (or you can just copy it) to General Discussion.

I typed a search on Yahoo "Egyptian Krst" and got 19k hits. I don't use google. www.alltheweb.com bought by Yahoo was always superior to google.

 

The real Jesus, according to Paul and 1 Cor. 11:14 would look like this:

http://www.popularme...rensics/1282186

OK I do use Google and after some looking around I found it eventually. Its not krst but qrst (originally) ... qrs means 'to bury' and qrs.t is the noun 'burial'. Sound shift q > k is believable. So you can get krst meaning burial. A title of Osiris is neb-qrst meaning Lord of Burial.

Birch apparently makes a link to 'gs' meaning anoint ... on the basis that the mummification process involved use of oils (as well as salts i.e. natron). So another sound shift qrs > krs > gs ... hmm not sure about that one.

Oh well thanks ... I like to be certain where these ideas are coming from.

PS. I won't comment on the US/Christian agenda ... as a Brit it all means little to me. You should have remained a colony and could have become as secular as we are (ironically in view of the established church) .... (lol)

"That which does not kill us makes us stronger." Friedrich Nietzsche.

Yes that is quoted in the OP.

Thanks Ralis very interesting.

It suggest I think that we are actually biologically geared up to adapt to changing and mildly antagonistic environments. The idea that healthy balance is a kind of stress free comfort zone is wrong. Rather we should enjoy a level of challenging stimulation. A waking up process rather than a sleepy one.

Vmarco,

What is this word Krst? Is it Ancient Egyptian ... all I can find is 'khr' which means tomb and also the word for anoint with oil is 'gs'.

Your ideas are interesting but I like to look for the origins of anything Egyptian.

Late representations of Serapis do look very Christ-like BTW.

Thanks

A.

He responded in a way that those who have broke-through the conditioning respond,...such as,...the univerese no longer exists for him, but that he exists for the universe,...or that thinking had ceased (for many first timers this is not realized until thinking comes back),...and that it is not necessarily pleasant to wake-up; as T. S. Eliot said, "Human kind cannot bear very much reality" (which doesn't imply that Eliot was enlightened).

 

Of course, the above is often just a Seventh Consciousness or Sense experience,...having let go of the first 6 Senses from which ego arises. When firmly in the Eighth Consciousness, Other is equally illusory as Self.

 

Ultimate enlightenment (in Freethought Buddhism) is the Ninth level, which isn't consciousness in a way that dualistic meditators imagine consciousness, but best described as Still, eternal bliss,...when one realizes the so-called speed-of-light is timeless, undivided, Presence that moves neither whences nor whithers,...entirely beyond the arising and ceasing of alaya.

Thank you for that explanation.

Why do you think this state is enlightenment?

http://en.wikipedia....piracy_theories

 

 

 

I loves me the internet.

 

 

 

Thoughts?

You work for the CIA and posted this to distract us from what's really going on???? Am I close?????