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  2. Posted

    13 hours ago, Mark Foote said:


     

    ... and by a sleep to say we end
    The heartache, and the thousand natural shocks
    That flesh is heir to. ’tis a consummation
    Devoutly to be wish’d....

    To sleep—perchance to dream. Ay, there’s the rub!
    For what if, in that dream, the very chair we sit upon in sleep, falleth over...

    (Hamlet, appended)

     

     


    I could be prisoned in a garden shed yet count myself the king of infinite space.

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    7 hours ago, snowymountains said:

     

    The knowledge of their direct environment, places of proximity to where they were, was probably superior as they needed to be very mindful of it, they had to be, for survival. E.g. modern people do not know animal patterns on a mountain 10mins from their home, they could had known them but it would require a completely different lifestyle to the modern one.

     

    In terms of overall knowledge on plants, animals etc, they couldn't had known more though, they lacked the tools we have.

     

    Their knowledge of stars could only had been inferior, they simply did not have the technological means to observe them like we do. We've actually been to the moon, they never did.

     

    There's an interesting documentary on the Kogi where the tribal sage is able to distinguish stars from far away galaxies, which was impressive but nonetheless, there's no comparison to how much more we know about the universe.


    I think you are missing the point about the nature of valid knowledge.

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  5. Posted

    1 hour ago, Maddie said:

     

    1. You say that modern humanity understands world better than our ancestors. Yes

     

    2. Secondly you say they were "hunter-gathers" Yes

     

    3. Yes, probably they were... but 50 000+ years ago Yes and more recently than that as well.

     

    4. a. I know you can bring many sources on that... Good, I'm excited to see them.

         b. but you should be aware who writes these "scientific" works, Scientists do. 

     


    ‘modern humanity’ understands very little if you mean people generally- they are mostly ignorant of even basic things.

     

    the knowledge of hunter gatherers of their world, plants, the behavior of animals , the weather, the seasons and the relationship to the celestial motions of sun, moon , and stars was extensive and in some ways superior to ours.

     

    scientists tend to work narrowly in their own silos and see little of the big picture - even the wisest of ‘em lacks true insight.

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  6. Posted

    34 minutes ago, snowymountains said:

    So starting from whether direct pointing from teacher to student is a method used in Daoism,

    We went to whether the English terminology used in Zen is a good translation from Chinese,

    then to Google Roshi's told someone on direct pointing from teacher to student,

    and now to earth-centric systems.

     

    It keeps getting better and better 😁

     

     

     

     

    It's rude to point.

     

     

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  7. Posted · Edited by Apech

    5 minutes ago, Maddie said:

     

    Frame of reference yes. Orbital position no.


    True orbital position maybe or most certainly is unknown and so to say the earth is central is as true as any other position.

     

    the earth is square , heaven is round.

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  9. Posted

    35 minutes ago, blue eyed snake said:

    I wonder,

     

    he describes how "water" goes up the spine and then turns a corner and fills up a flat disc shaped cushion  at the height of the nipples, and then he wonders whether that was a kundalinilike occurrence. 

     

     

    I remember well how I experienced  the opening of the MCO as cool water, rushing through the channels as water filling up a dry riverbed. I've always thought that kundalini energy is hot energy, not cool and water like. 

     

    anybody more information on this?


    In my humble opinion k is hot and a different magnitude to cool flushing energy.  Both are good though.

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  10. Posted

    20 minutes ago, Maddie said:

    I don't want to sound dense but what exactly is the point of the MCO. When I began I was told do the MCO, and I was like "ok". After a while though I thought "why am I doing this". I never really understood so I stopped. 


    It was specially invented to give DaoBums something to argue about.

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  11. Posted

    1 minute ago, SirPalomides said:

     

    There's a popular legend (most recently pushed in the Da Vinci Code) that Constantine had some role in fixing the New Testament canon and that he excluded or edited various texts. He did not. The canon of scripture wasn't even on the agenda at the Council of Nicaea. 

     

    Wot!  Dan Brown wrote a pile of bullshit!  OMG!

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  15. Posted

    On 1/4/2024 at 9:42 AM, Chang dao ling said:

    Hi, in Bhavishya puran ( on of the 18 Books written by sage veda vyasa author of epic Mahabharata) their is a interesting story. King salivahana meet Jesus in Himalayas. Salivahana see a man radiating golden light near manas sarovar.

    Salivahana: who are you?

    Jesus: I am " Isha putra"  ( son of God) i take prophethood in order to teach Barbarians Dharma. I believe Jesus learns yoga from Indian yogis and attain samadhi. In manas sarovar 

    What's your opinion dear bums?

    https://atmanism.wordpress.com/2019/04/14/jesus-christ-in-the-bhavishya-purana/

     

    Did Jesus visit India?  Obviously there's quite a gap in the story of Jesus between his birth and his ministry at 30 years or so - so who is to say what happened and where he went.  There's plenty of speculation - 'did those feet in ancient time walk upon Englands mountains green, and was the holy lamb of God in England pleasant pastures seen' ?  No, not even likely - but it still inspired a lot of people and created a kind of wish fulfilling myth for many.

     

    So a travel to India via the silk route?  Possible - well yes in the sense of anything is possible - probable - no.  Surely it would have been mentioned or hinted at in the Gospels - while it was not.

     

    Another idea is much more possible though.  Did Indian 'dharmic' thought permeate to the world in which Jesus grew up?  This is much more possible.  Although Jesus as a Jew is described as growing up in that culture, in the area where he lived at the Eastern side of the Roman Empire there was a high degree of Hellenisation - and culturally many cities were Greek in language and culture.  There is the Decapolis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decapolis) for instance.  And we know that from the time of Alexandre the Great there was contact and culture that integrated influence from India including Buddhism.  If you read the history of Gandhara (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhara) you can see the mixing of Indo-Greek culture. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhism).

     

    There is the example of Pyrrho as a philosopher who brought Indian and Buddhist ideas back to the Greek world (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrho) - there is a book about him called 'The Greek Buddha' (https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691176321/greek-buddha) .  So it is possible to build up a scenario where Jesus as a young man learned of these ways of thought and was influenced by them.  That he used them to reinterpret his own cultural tradition to produce his own teachings.

     

    I am not saying this is what happened but just that it is more probable than Jesus travelling to India - that in a sense India travelled to him.

     

     

     

     

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    46 minutes ago, Maddie said:

     

    The behavior of the church throughout the centuries seems to invalidate this claim. The crusades and inquisitions, along with witch trials are just a few examples of many. 

     

    Does the slaughter of the Tamil Tigers by the Buddhist government of Sri Lanka or the treatment of the Rohinga in Burma invalidate the Buddha's teachings on compassion?

     

     

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    17 hours ago, Nungali said:

     

    ..... and it appears they had to wait on mice celebrating new years eve ; 

     

    note the  mouse  has a cocktail in one hand and the 'kebab' party food in the other hand

     

    the cat is offering a left over Christmas Goose and in the background a sky rocket is going off

     

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    Perhaps Apech can tell us more  about ' Egyptian Christmas '   ?

     

     

    I don't know much about these ostracon - although they are clearly humorous doodles and 'cartoon' -like charicatures with the reversal of normalcy being displayed - eg. cats serving rats/mice and so on. Perhaps its a kind saturnalian reversal of hierarchy but that might be reading too much into it.

     

    Actually strictly I guess Egyptian Christmas should be something Coptic ?

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  25. Posted

    17 hours ago, Nungali said:

     

     

    What about high branches ... beyond any pole extension ?

     

    Aussie bush  style  ;   half a stick of 'jelly' with a long fuse , tie it to an arrow and shoot it up into the limb with it . Light fuse and run .

    - it doesnt make a very clean 'cut' though .

     

    Yes I was going to buy a pole extension but in the end I just used a small foldable aluminium ladder (or step ladder) - but most of the trees I prune are fruit trees or olive and are not high.  In fact the easiest thing with olive trees is to climb into the bowl of tree and work from there.

     

    I did cut down an apple tree which had quite a large trunk but used a chain saw.  However basically me and chain saws don't get along - I had a petrol driven one which kept packing up on me so I bought a battery powered electric one (quite light and handy) but even then in the end I just reverted to the pruning saw which will cut through anything with a bit of effort.

     

    I haven't tried explosives ... which is why I still have all my fingers and hands ...

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