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  1. On 9/8/2020 at 8:54 AM, Taomeow said:

    It is known.

     

    It is known to all of California now.  It's a boy.

     

    El Dorado fire was started by a pyrotechnic device released at a gender reveal party.  

     

    Imagine starting your life by having a few thousand acres burned to the ground in your honor on the first day of your existence.  That boy may be destined to grow up to be someone special.  (Genghis Khan?..)  

     

      

    Hope they name him Sparky ^_^

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  2. 2 hours ago, Apech said:

     

     

    I'm quite keen on the idea of harnessing new tech with the purpose of greening the planet - as long as it is a process of return to the natural.  Although of course there is hardly any natural terrain left on earth - we have been terraforming since the neolithic (at least).

     

     

    As long as we're piling on...

     You're idea of what is natural isn't necessarily natural. You want to 'green' the planet? How about staying out of the way and just letting the planet do what it's gonna do which may or may not include 'greening'. Sans human interference, it will rewild itself. JMO.

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  3. 7 hours ago, Taomeow said:

     

    Rewilding as I understand it is not an individual endeavor though, there's probably a different word for your (awesome) lifestyle.  It would mean being part of a social structure that is very different from being either a "citizen" of any which "country" (with all it entails), subject of any which "government" you are not acquainted with personally and not related to by blood or common/shared life or both, or a lone wolf (with or without a partner.)  A "lone wolf" is an exception even among wolves --- normally they live in packs, extended families, supremely supportive of each other and fiercely loyal to each other -- yes, not unlike that clan loyalty you mentioned...   whatever happened to ours?...  we used to all have it, humans that is, no exceptions.  Clan loyalty  that is not toxic is only possible if the clan is real though.  All those bogus loyalties to all those bogus clans that replaced (always by force or cunning) our real tribal lifestyle are nostalgic atavisms, pining for the real thing, projecting onto whatever bogus thing is available those orphaned genuine feelings of unity and loyalty and devotion to the native tribe.  Normal human societies (before all the tweaking) are tribal-cooperative, not imperial and not every-man-for-himself competitive. 

     

    That kind of a solution is a bit harder to implement this late in the "civilized" human day than just moving away from the city...  exponentially harder.  Possibly impossible.  But if you feel you're wild enough as it is, :D I can fully understand that and genuinely admire the move.  :)  

    Thanks tm :)

    Yes, what you described as rewilder is how it is. It would be impossible for most to do this, and it took a lifetime for me to get to this, but like Laozi - I climbed onto the blue ox and rode through the western gate. ^_^

     

     

     

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  4. Wow. Just realized I bombarded ya with all my Like clicks. Sorry :blush:

     

    Fascinating thread! Thanks to everyone for your words; I learned much...and have too many things to say so I'll limit it to 3.

     

    It'll take a while to get the image of the red white and blue strap-on outta my head :lol: ; I attribute the success of the nordic systems directly to their Viking ancestry - specifically clan loyalty and support; and lastly - I am a rewilder, though I didn't know there was a word for it, and not just in theory. Where I now dwell it's still possible to live in this manner. 

     

    That's all.

    Thanks again for sharing!

     

     

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  5. 14 minutes ago, ralis said:

     

    By your reasoning, the Dao is also about "no more right-wing bullshit."

     

    Of course! Is there anywhere Dao is not?

     

    8 minutes ago, sean said:

     

    I think you may underestimate how politically incorrect and rowdy us dirtbag leftists can be. 😜 I want things to get more weird around here. Just with less punching down.

     

    Sean

     

    Ohhh I don't underestimate that at all, lol. You might have missed the middle three hundred plus pages in the Trump thread where the non-leftists were totally thumped on... motivating the right to rise up, etc. I just watched the natural swing back & forth, kinda boring after a while, same shit over and over, both sides. 

     

    IMO, if you want less punching, you'll need to ban ALL political debate - or, plan on babysitting 24/7... and it's unreasonable, again imo, to expect Mods to control it for you. Been there done that.

     

    I don't have a dog in this hunt. What bows my neck is a lack of integrity - from any source.

     

    You want more weirdness? Keep singular control over your site and follow your own nature. It doesn't get more interesting than that. ^_^

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  6. 16 minutes ago, sean said:

    Also now I'm already feeling torn at the idea of relegating the Daoist tradition to one subforum on a site called "The Dao Bums". 😳

     

    Sean

     

     When I first found this site 11 years ago, the spirit and the energy, especially with the Tao Bums title, conveyed that Dao was everywhere - not just in the perfect or the pleasant or the polite or the politicly correct.

     

    Yes, more often than not, it was a disrespectful rowdy and sometimes ugly place. But isn't Dao in all of that also?

     

    TDB is 180 from what it began as. I think if you want to change the name of this site it would be fine and perhaps more reflective of what it is now, or what you wish it to become.

     

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  7. 1. You people are making a great case for an AI sheriff - the suggestion was serious.

    2. I was the best Mod you ever had. I also was doing it with head injuries, so what does that tell ya.

    3. There was something else I was going to say but I don't recall it now. Oh yeah. Stay mindful of what you wish for. You know the rest.

     

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  8. 5 minutes ago, Zork said:

    On the contrary, New Age, is an umbrella term that encompasses true and tried systems and crackpot theories and novelty non-effective systems created for marketing purposes. Shouldn't we differentiate? All systems out there aren't equal and the line should be drawn somewhere if this site attempts to give out information to people during their "baby steps" in esoteric systems.

     

    Good luck with that line.

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  9. 11 minutes ago, Spotless said:

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    Regarding the dislike or cast aside view of New Agers - 

     

    The term New Age was vilified by the Religious Right - in reality it was and is (to me of extreme age) simply a headline name for a great and wonderful spiritual change that took place/is taking place in which the old and fossilized religious doctrines - and assumed at birth indoctrination was refocused upon - released - tossed out altogether - torn asunder.  It was and is Women saying fuck this bullshit. It is Anti-establishment Anti-corporate Pillage Anti-pollution Pro-Earth Pro-Human Interaction Pro-Spiritual Investigation and Growth Pro-Openness and Exploration.

     

    It is also people into crystals and angels and other things which we may laugh at - but we seem to forget just how laughable are the many religious teachings which nearly all followers toss out as ridiculous even if in reality it means they are not actually believers in the religion they profess to be a part of. Most Christians toss the entire Old Testament off - and something like 60% believe in Reincarnation.

     

    Everytime I hear New Agers used as a word of denigration in a similar vein to Fundamentalists as brainless shallow fools here - in a site that is the exemplification of a teaching that speaks of spontaneity / non pretense - it is like slander from a falsified understanding - one fostered by the religious right and the blunt force of spiritual competition.

     

     

    Spot on, Spotless. 

    Sincerely, me. Another of advanced age who was actually there.

     

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  10. 1 hour ago, Yueya said:

     

    I’d like to keep a focus on Daoism too, though I’m happy to see “Daoist Textual Studies” changed to a more general “Textual Studies”. 

     

    But the biggest change I’d like to see is to never again allow staff to become so one-sided politically. That’s something that’s proved toxic for this forum and resulted in a number of members, including myself, no longer feeling comfortable participating here. And it seems a number of good people have left permanently

     

     

    Warrants repeating.

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  11. 5 minutes ago, sean said:

    Thanks! I've edited my OP, incorporating suggestions, including retaining separate Daoist and "general".

     

    Sean

     

    Good edit, imo

    And hopefully you'll take that banner down soon.

    We got it.

    I'm not right-wing but that's like a slap at the door and nobody needs that. Especially if we come here to get away from the political crap for a while.

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  12. 9 minutes ago, sean said:

     

    I find the condescending pearl clutching of committed bothsidesism on the internet funny?

     

    Sean

     

    And now I'm laughing at your assumption that I embrace bothsidesism.

    What I DO embrace is respectful dialogue, regardless of one's position held. Isn't that why the way of TDB was drug from the days of RON JEREMEY?

    Ah..but those are times long gone. Also sad, that. 

    IMO, of course.

     

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  13. Astonishing.

    And very sad.

    WTF is wrong with you people.

    The spew from the right has been replaced with spew from the left.

    The energy in your words is no less vile and destructive than the words of those you denegrate.

    It is possible to clean your house without burning it down.

     

    Best of luck, keep well, stay safe.

     

    Peace Out.

     

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  14. Hey new staff, a few small questions? 

     

     Is there a thread telling who the Mods are now - I'm guessing dawei is still around, anybody else? Where should I be clicking?

     

    Is there a way to access the full site version yet? Still only by phone here, but this new one (S10e) has a microphone and that beats typing all to hell. LOL

     

    And...the option to come in privately seems to be gone so how do you suggest I now stalk @zerostao

     

    Thanks!

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