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There's no disagreement between you and me as far as I understood. Unless you're saying that misinformation about Laozi is also a good thing, but I don't think that's what you're saying. The bait thrown about it was what I commented on. It was just the most obvious bait in this thread.

I agree that age does not impact validity, but if someone is trying to teach people that Laozi made up the Dao(like a scam) 1,000 years ago, throwing garbage on the whole thing is it really worth smiling about? Ok, unless someone responds to me directly I'm out.

Saying Daodejing is older than 1,000 years feel like an attack on you? I think you would know the age of Daodejing, you have 9000+ posts on a site where Daoism is discussed. This is most basic information. If you weren't throwing baits, then I don't know what to tell you.

Throwing so many baits. Final comment: I will disagree with Daodejing being 1,000 years old because I know better and bow out of this thread.

One thing to know is that Tzu(or more modern spelling zi) is not a surname. You would never refer to him as that.

There are others enlightened by chatbots. I haven't seen anything interesting come from someone using large language models in these topics. Random books, Reddit and other forums that chatbots use to make up their ideas are rarely high quality even on their own and a chatbot is mixing all kinds of posts together.

At least we can say one thing, his ideas are not coherent at all but maybe he's having fun trashing these topics.

If you don't have time to discuss what we work with, spend it doing something you're interested in. No one is forcing you to reply.

I wasn't talking martial arts, I was making an analogy. People delude themselves thinking they have skill by watching movies or reading on the internet.

You believe Chi is the ATP that was taught in high school. But what is the energy that we(and Chinese practitioners) use?

There are a lot of people who think they know martial arts by watching movies too. Maybe some of them can imitate a move or two.

What would you call the energy we(including Chinese practitioners) are talking about?

I asked AI how to become a master at this. It's sources were random threads on reddit, thedaobums and healingtaousa.

Welcome! I also switched over from West to East, so to speak.

Ok, I removed what I said since the questions were unanswerable in my case since how I experienced for the first time as a beginner was different than was asked and the criteria for answering was more strict than I understood. Recommend Grandmaster Doo Wai videos practice to get the first experience of qi even though that wasn't how I got it.