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Damo Mitchell â Any Verifiable Demonstration of Skill or Qi Emission?
Neirong replied to ChunMaya's topic in General Discussion
He runs the cult, and all its members truly learn is that the cult leader is a great person of profound wisdom and mythical skills. They then interact with others who have undergone a similar brainwashing process, reinforcing their belief that their views are undoubtedly correct, which fosters cognitive bias. There is no evidence of any "abilities" or "spiritual attainments." Many have observed that asking his "students" what they have learned or gained from years of training often provokes aggressive reactions. -
All I said was a sprinkle of common sense; it is not related to what I practice or teach. It has nothing to do with spirituality, esotericism, or magic. I would not study prosperity and finances from a homeless beggar, I would not study martial arts and health from an obese cripple, and I would not study spirituality and meditation from a weak, underdeveloped, monkey mind. To have common sense, all you need is honesty and a bit of decency. Do not pretend, do not lie to yourself or others, and do not sustain any kind of delusional belief. People who get triggered by this are revealing their aggrandizing internal problems and disharmony. In diagnostics and treatment, there is a principle called "dial testing." To locate a problem, you send a signal that triggers a reaction. You are merely speculating, and talking crap, to defend your Ego and Beliefs. How would you know what taoist practices are even, if you consider the guy above a taoist master? If he knew anything about Taoist practices he would never end up like this. It is like saying you know all about finances and trading, but your teacher is a nearby homeless beggar, who never had a penny in his pocket. Decades pass without any kind of spiritual progress, siddhis, advancement and evolution, and everyone reaps what they deserve. Many seem to prefer warm swamp of delusions and a social tea club of beliebers. Not my cup of tea.
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It is the case with Damo Mitchell and Adam Mizner as well. It is a well-known fact that excess fat can prevent or impede energy circulation. It boggles my mind how blind, deaf, and willing to be deceived some are. Itâs understandable not to have third-eye vision, not to be able to assess someoneâs spiritual development, or not to see how much energy a teacher possesses. However, ignoring the physical condition of someone who claims to teach : martial arts, longevity and health, immortality, and youthfulness is astonishing. People who only meditate often neglect their physical body and develop a weak physique. However, they should eventually realize that having a frail body will become a significant chokepoint or bottleneck on the path of cultivation. The story of Bodhidharma comes to mind that has created Shaolin, because he faced that very problem after prolonged sitting.
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The problem with their talk is that it does not align with reality. It is a classic case of pulling the wool over someone's eyes or engaging in scamgong manipulation. Do I need to point out that Nathan Brine looks extremely unhealthy and frail? Is this the result of secret lineage 20+ years of personal training under grand master wang liping? Daoists make bold claims about health, longevity, and immortality, yet all we see are sickening footages of individuals suffering from the effects of a modern American diet. They are frequently found in worse health than the average person who does not practice any Daoist arts and has never heard of the "wonderful health benefits and immortality practices." I don't think you should advertise or endorse morbid obesity. Yes, it is a different kind of belly. Different kind of fat as well, usual fat is bad, but this one must be a holy one. And no, they are not dying like all other mortals, they simply enter mahasamadhi and ascend to divine realms. It reminds me of the copium statements made by some people defending "Gurus" who smoke cigars and drink whiskey (and take God knows what substances behind the scenes), as if this is an external show to humble their followers' egos. Certainly, it is not a dreadful, harmful addiction or a lack of self control. The truth is, addictions stem from a weak mind incapable of controlling the body. They also arise when there is no leverage between the mind and the body, and when there is no adequate spiritual development to begin with. Such a human would truly be an animal without an active spiritual component.
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Demonology. Why focus on the negative?
Neirong replied to Apotheose's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
The idea may seem logical and reasonable to you, but thatâs the trap. The more sensible something appears to the human mind, the more dangerous the underlying error can be. The world is far more complex than a kindergarten sandbox. We exist in a multidimensional reality, not a simplistic simulation of a mind. First, you cannot banish darkness or reveal hidden truths simply by flooding a space with light, no matter how intense. Even if the light blinds you, it wonât expose everything. Demons, otherworldly creatures, and countless other entities do not reflect light, rendering them invisible. Light may pass through them without any interaction. A room may be brilliantly lit, yet they remain unseen. Second, many entities can merge with or impersonate other beings, including you. As we speak, you could be replaced or manipulated without even realizing it. In fact, your belief that "fighting demons is futile, so letâs light up the darkness with bulbs" might stem from demonic influence on your psyche. I will say more, there are a lot of beings that would love to feast on "light", "positivity" and any other positive emotions just as you think they feed on negative. Infact, idea that demons feed primarily on negative emotions is wrong. Throughout history, even revered holy men and high-ranking Christian priests have been possessed by demons, leading to significant deviations in their behavior. Recall the medieval era: a time marked by bloodshed, brutal torture devices, and the burning of so-called "witches" at the stake. -
Demonology. Why focus on the negative?
Neirong replied to Apotheose's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
No words can accurately describe or explain the esoteric, as two-dimensional information cannot capture a 22-dimensional reality. For instance, imagine a flat, two-dimensional square trying to comprehend a three-dimensional cube. The square can only perceive the cube as a flat shape, such as a single slice or shadow, completely missing its depth and volume. Now consider how a static 3D image differs from a three-hour-long 3D video in terms of information density. Describing a three-hour 3D video in wordsâcapturing its dynamic visuals, sound, and emotional arcsâwould be nearly impossible without losing its essence. Yet, these are merely four dimensions. Esoteric practices, however, engage with over 12 dimensions, and some sources suggest our reality encompasses more than 22 dimensions. This is why Iâve mentioned before, and reiterate now, that talking or reading on forums will never lead to enlightenment or meaningful progress on the spiritual path. When the "knowledge" is derived solely from books, or online sources, you can only worry, as it is fake and illusory. You would have to expend energy to sustain a belief system or fight for the certain views. In contrast, those who possess practical experience and proper training have no need for concern. Their knowledge is grounded in real-world application, giving them confidence and clarity without the need to cling to or defend untested beliefs. This is amusing. Do you believe reality is divided among Buddhists, Christians, Yogis, Taoists, and other religions, with each group living in its own pocket dimension? While descriptions of demons and entities are common across various traditions, they often attempt to describe the same phenomena from different perspectives, with some distortion and error. If I shared my deep knowledge of demonology with someone who has never encountered a demon, and that person passed it on, within just a few cycles, the "knowledge" would likely be distorted to the point of being barely recognizable. From the above, it is clear that: You do not understand what a demon is. You do not understand what karma is. You are preoccupied with mental exercises, such as pitting imaginary karma against imaginary demons. I can address these points. A demon is a real living being, just like you, Nungali, or a rhinoceros in Africa. A human is an animal with a body (its primary vessel) rooted in the physical/material realm. A demon, however, is a living being whose primary body exists in the astral or another non-physical realm. If you live in a forest and encounter a hungry wolf, it may eat you. This involves no karma; itâs simply the natural cycle of predation, akin to how you shop for food. Similarly, demons can parasitize and feast on human energy. But if you have weapons, tools, training and knowledge, you can defend yourself. People learn about karma when they evolve to a point where such knowledge becomes relevant. This understanding typically emerges after developing extrasensory perception (ESP) abilities, and certainly not before. At this stage, human mind expands beyond the self, beginning to perceive itself as part of the world rather than a separate entity. Reading books about karma is utterly meaningless. I have seen hundreds of people waste their lives engaging in nonsensical activities, mistakenly believing they will gain positive karma. That's right. -
Why is cultivation more beneficial than just being alive
Neirong replied to Ascetic's topic in Daoist Discussion
Life, in essence, is a journey from point A to point B, during which you gain experiences and develop persistent qualities (though rarely). Cultivation is not separate or alien from lifeâs overall purpose. Instead of acquiring experiences and qualities randomly or by chance, cultivation involves pursuing them deliberately, working harder, and progressing much faster. One of my former teachers used an analogy of classes and school. Everyone has a place in the class, but not everyone actively studies. Many people experience life passively, without striving to learn or achieve passing grades. Most would not even know the criteria and requirements for advancing from one grade to the next or graduating from this school. If it takes 100 reincarnations for an average person to develop a particular quality and progress from one stage to another, a talented cultivator with proper guidance could achieve it in a single lifetime. -
Demonology. Why focus on the negative?
Neirong replied to Apotheose's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
Science differs from belief systems because it tests ideas in practical settings. Here is a simple test to verify your concept: Try walking alone into the wild Amazon jungle at night without any weapons or tools to see if a holy aura or positive thinking will deter predators. If your belief holds true, no one will bite or attack you, and you will be able to live for weeks in a literal paradise, breathing high-quality air within the rainforest. Yes, life, self-development, and personal growth are based on learning from experience. If someone believes with absolute certainty that there is a "correct path," from the beginning, they have already lost their way. Most destructive cults I have encountered operate like this. The brainwashed mind shuts down, and the person believes they are following the correct path. -
There is a much simpler answer, you have never done a real astral projection. It is not an out of body experience, if your senses remain in your physical body.
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Demonology. Why focus on the negative?
Neirong replied to Apotheose's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
No wonder , people who make a living by telling others how they should live and think, would not be interested in anyone learning to think by themselves. It is common among religions to just label magic as evil practice, satan or shaitan occultism. Magic is akin to science, involving the exploration of reality and the pursuit of truth. During the medieval era, religious authorities often persecuted scientists and brilliant minds, through burning or torture. One benefit of studying and practicing magic is the development of mental resilience and protective layers. A person living an entirely mundane life without any exposure to cultivation faces a much higher risk of accidentally going insane, becoming possessed, or losing their mind and sanity. In contrast, those like myself and peers in magic, who regularly venture into dangerous realms, interact with spirits, and engage in astral battles, are better safeguarded. -
Demonology. Why focus on the negative?
Neirong replied to Apotheose's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
Who told you it leads nowhere? It is extremely rewarding field of self-cultivation. The demonology is very much like biology, but instead of studying elementals of life (animals and various "life" forms), it examines creatures from other worlds. Why do people train in martial arts and develop their bodies if they never plan to fight on the street? Security based on skill and ability, rather than chance or luck, is a key reason. Also, it improves your health, well-being and productivity in life. I know of many cases where people were parasitized and victimized by otherworldly entities (demons) without even realizing it was happening. It is easy to fall into a trap and have your entire life consumed or drained by entities, without the host ever becoming aware of it. The consequences of being "eaten" may not be as dramatic as depicted in movies but can be as common as depression, anxiety disorders, eating disorders, fatigue, and an inability to think clearly or enjoy life. If you cannot resist and protect your energy and mind from external influences, you will inevitably become prey. Remember the scene in The Matrix where humans are kept in capsules and their energy is siphoned off by another civilization? -
You have an unhealthy obsession with him. Nobody really owes you anything. Some people obsess over Harry Potter and try to enter another world by running into a wall. Others obsess over Tolkien or Star Wars, going around with "Jedi swords." Despite all these differences, the issue is one and the same. It is an open lineage. For all we know, you could claim to be the XX heir right now, or anyone else, including WLP himself. Many current Western teachers have done exactly that. An open lineage without a centralized control body, in my view, is the same as no lineage at all. For example, in our system, we maintain a registered list of practitioners, including their level of experience, completed seminars and training, qualifications and clearance, and general achievements. Moreover, we do not give the right to teach to anyone and requirements are rather high. A structured system ensures oversight and prevents fraud. Without such a system, discussions about lineages lack any meaningful connection to common sense. Many Chinese teachers start with outlandish claims, such as, "My father was a secret member of a royal Kung Fu Wopai lineage, guarding its mysteries for 100,000 years, and now the time has come for me to teach." Such absurd introductions do not deter them from attracting millions of followers. The masses often lack the discernment to identify truly valid teachings.
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What is meant by Emptiness?? Especially in meditation??
Neirong replied to Tommy's topic in Buddhist Textual Studies
I have been lenient with my statements, softening the blunt truth to avoid hurting or destroying anyone's fragile ego. Analogies are a way to convey meaning and can represent anything, such as a kickboxer, pianist, artist, or writer. Logic should be taught in kindergarten or early schooling; it should be a trivial task for anyone above 7 years old to connect the dots and see the parallel. The problem is that people call their actions meditation, which is often not true in reality, outside of pop esoteric concepts like "I am the mirror," "Indigo Children," or "The Secret." In reality, sitting on the toilet is more conducive to cultivation than what many do and label as "meditation," especially without a proper teacher or school training and lacking knowledge of emptiness. Endless demagogy on forums will not unlock proper meditation ability, which requires numerous prerequisites. Becoming a kickboxing world champion is still millions of times easier than achieving enlightenment. Fantastic progress with meditation and cultivation right here. Copium at it's finest. The irony to see statements like this on a Buddhist forum section, where people are supposed to work on making self "perfect." -
What is meant by Emptiness?? Especially in meditation??
Neirong replied to Tommy's topic in Buddhist Textual Studies
Practicing sitting on the toilet for hours every day will never make you a kickboxing world champion. Meditation is a broad term. Some people sit and count their breaths as a form of meditation, while others focus on being aware of something. I visit public places with a sense of humor, but it is unfortunate to see all kinds of young people and some not so young wasting their lives on meaningless activities, believing that "it will happen" one day. A few more years of pointless sitting on the toilet, and they expect to become world champions in everything at once, complete with a rainbow body and ascension. Moreover, instead of gaining insights from practice, they engage in endless debates and discussions that are even more futile and pointless than the practice itself. Naturally, common sense, such as the idea that "sitting on forums for decades and guessing the path to divinity" is futile, is not welcomed. Then there are social gatherings filled with copium, where people describe their 20 to 30 years of "cultivation," claiming, "I have become a better, kinder person." "Tell me what I want to hear, but not the truth that I need to hear." Few. -
Still, nothing beats a guy using the visual effects of filming dust particles during meditation, flying around, as "souls gathering" "supernatural power" in a "godlike black magick ritual." And some "Daoists" here, shivering in fright from this "mighty magick art." Itâs the incredible art of a dirty room that hasnât been vacuumed in years. The dirtier the room, the higher the magick ritualâs power.