Sahaja

There is a very large selection of documents on cultivation practices (qigong, neigong, neidan, magic, martial arts & yoga) in a Facebook group called the Arcanum Library that is administered by Jeff McDuffie. I think some here might find this FB site/group of interest.

Let me see if I can connect the dots - 3 people at a class (of what a 100 people?) with Damo had Zi Fa Gong and it made you uncomfortable so that none of the 50 or so teachers Damo has developed are any good - allowing people to express energy in a qigong class in the form of zi fa gong makes you uncomfortable so Damo is not a good teacher irrespective of his other accomplishments (establishing multiple schools in TCM, Qigong and Martial arts with 100s of students, many hours of free materials on the internet and publishing numerous books on these subjects with 3 more being published this summer) - While you acknowledge damo and his teachers are capable of doing qi emissions, your not having to see people with zi fa gong in class is more important than whether a teacher has this skill Yes it does sound like you’d be more comfortable in a class where you work with the qi between your hands and your imagination.

franz Bardon/hermetics and qi is the physical breath in relation to qi gong/focus on the qi between your hands - Rasmus vs liu Yiming/Huang Yuanji/neidan and qi is not the physical breath in relation to qi gong - inside is what is important, qi feeling on/between the hands is meaningless - Mitchell seems there are some significant fundamental differences between them in both underlying philosophy and the foundation of their approaches. These writers on Neidan (Yiming and Yuanji) and Damo are pretty conservative - no side doors, no sexual practices, no ayahuasca, as little use of the acquired mind as possible (wei wu wei with the first wei almost silent) including no visualizations, no imagination, no shamanic magic, internal means only internal etc. I can see how this conservative approach turns some people off. Particularly those using these methods. as far as Damo’s seniors - I am not sure whether you guys are referring to these folks on this list or why you don’t think highly of them. Damo has developed a large network of teachers so I don’t understand the comments on this. https://lotusneigong.com/branches-2/ People should choose who they want but I think one needs to go beyond just the gossip and innuendo.

I am curious which schools/teachers in your view are turning out good students.