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Let me see if I can connect the dots - 3 people at a class (of what a 100 people?) with Damo had Zi Fa Gong and it made you uncomfortable so that none of the 50 or so teachers Damo has developed are any good - allowing people to express energy in a qigong class in the form of zi fa gong makes you uncomfortable so Damo is not a good teacher irrespective of his other accomplishments (establishing multiple schools in TCM, Qigong and Martial arts with 100s of students, many hours of free materials on the internet and publishing numerous books on these subjects with 3 more being published this summer) - While you acknowledge damo and his teachers are capable of doing qi emissions, your not having to see people with zi fa gong in class is more important than whether a teacher has this skill Yes it does sound like you’d be more comfortable in a class where you work with the qi between your hands and your imagination.

franz Bardon/hermetics and qi is the physical breath in relation to qi gong/focus on the qi between your hands - Rasmus vs liu Yiming/Huang Yuanji/neidan and qi is not the physical breath in relation to qi gong - inside is what is important, qi feeling on/between the hands is meaningless - Mitchell seems there are some significant fundamental differences between them in both underlying philosophy and the foundation of their approaches. These writers on Neidan (Yiming and Yuanji) and Damo are pretty conservative - no side doors, no sexual practices, no ayahuasca, as little use of the acquired mind as possible (wei wu wei with the first wei almost silent) including no visualizations, no imagination, no shamanic magic, internal means only internal etc. I can see how this conservative approach turns some people off. Particularly those using these methods. as far as Damo’s seniors - I am not sure whether you guys are referring to these folks on this list or why you don’t think highly of them. Damo has developed a large network of teachers so I don’t understand the comments on this. https://lotusneigong.com/branches-2/ People should choose who they want but I think one needs to go beyond just the gossip and innuendo.

I am curious which schools/teachers in your view are turning out good students.

In this Damo talks about qi emissions - risks, benefits and relation to what he teaches (as well as his process for selecting who he teaches this to). I would suggest for specific questions you contact him directly through his Instagram site Damomitchell or through emails that are listed on his Instagram or websites.

Was initially introduced to mudras using the hands in yoga over an extended period of years. While these were presented in the context of elements, chakras or meditative practice I never experienced or could discern much direct physical impact from their usage. They seemed more symbolic and intellectual than physical/energetic. a few years ago my body seems to have taken notice and now there are strong and specific physical and energetic effects that I experience uniquely associated with different hand mudras and other hand positions. For some simpler mudras the specific internal effect they have and how they support a specific type of internal energetic development seem relatively straightforward to identify. For other more complicated mudras or hand shapes/positions the specific physical effects while still quite evident, are much more difficult to specifically discern. My guess is that everyone has this built in wiring that can be triggered by mudras or other hand shapes/positions that could be supportive in energetic or spiritual practice but they may or may not yet have discovered it. I imagine for some like me, there is some energetic threshold one must cross before this awareness/experience arises. for others maybe they were just born with this awareness built in. From my studies use of hand mudras are not limited to yoga but are also found in a number of other self cultivation traditions. I am curious what others experiences are with mudras. Any comments you can share on your experiences with mudras or how mudras fit into your overall journey?