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8 minutes ago, Feng69 said:

So, is it wrong that Neidan reverses the aging process? 

Actually, no, it does. 

Measurable, on physiological processes. Some are mentioned in the current Nei Dan thread, the one with the extremely long heading. 

@Feng69 It was just that this thread started to become a teacher-bashing thread.

If you look through the internet, you will see that other teachers, including Chinese, more or less look their age, so it is unfair to ask of Damo Mitchell to look a certain way unless there is overwhelming evidence that others can live up to it. 

Isn't one's hair supposed to turn black as well? 

That one might be extra hard for Damo to live up to 😁

50 minutes ago, Feng69 said:

But what I am questioning myself is: he is 41 or 42 and he looks like that. And his look became older like everyone's look becomes older when years go by. Practicing Neidan for so many years, why doesn't he look younger than he does?

 I read quite often, practicing Neidan stops ageing etc...

But in my opinion he doesn't look at least a few years  younger than he is. He looks good and healthy, like many others do. But not younger. Why not after so many years of practicing Neidan? 

Do you have photos available featuring other teachers of neidan, so that we can see these rejuvenateing aspects here? 

46 minutes ago, Zork said:

i left a message for the mods. i can't delete it. The tag couldn't be deleted sorry. Anyway my comment is that surveys are always 100% accurate aren't they?

Obviously, I made that post up. 

17 minutes ago, anshino23 said:

 

I am not familiair with the "anti-inflammatory reflex pathway" in scientific nomenclature. Are you referring to the cholinergic anti-inflammatory pathway? 

Yes, and it goes by both names in articles, just to confuse things. 

17 minutes ago, anshino23 said:

In which way have you found the activation of the above-mentioned pathways/systems through Daoist practices - and are you familiar with scientific research that supports the connection?

Yes, I teach this subject at a medical university so I am familiar with the relevant references. 

Yes....? 

I'm all ears. 

Or all awareness, if you like 😁

I can solve this issue. 

Yesterday, the Lotus Nei Gong completed a survey including long- and short term students. 

Among the long term students, 87% have a fully functional LDT, and 13% failed to understand how to fill in the survey. 

Among the short time students who had started on the dan tian gong, after six months 63% reported signs in line with developing an LDT, 12 % didn't feel a thing, and 25% had Quit practicing for various reasons,(including anxiety and "I realized I am already perfected, so I do not have to practice"). 

For a full report, you have to log in at www.lotusneigong.com/readthesurveynow 

@anshino23Have you looked in to the anti-inflammatory reflex pathway and the glymphatic system? Daoist practices activate these a lot, through multiple physiological mechanisms. 

10 minutes ago, Zork said:

 

The most serious question i want to ask you is: How many of Damo's students have built the LDT?

What objective or testifiable support for this would you accept? 

2 hours ago, Vinh Ott said:

 

you can also take the blood of infants to get significantly younger(transfusion) 

And you have some published research that support this idea? 

54 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:

 

The member whose posting history I have no idea about based on how much was hidden, 

Just check the oldest threads in this section, he will pop up. Quite a lot of caps lock, if I recall right. 

1 hour ago, Earl Grey said:

My issue with this universalist approach is it’s like cross breeding a mule and a horse to get an ass. It might work in creating a hybrid being, but the result is not so great.

Unless one is cruising for a piece of ass? 

46 minutes ago, Asher Topaz said:

 

Then it clicked for me. That if nei dan leads to immortality and clinging unto samadhi states leads to immortality then they are probably similar in energy transformation.

If... ...   Probably. 

What if there are differences? 

Things you do not see in translated books not exactly talking about the details that might matter? 

Then you will see the similarities (which are there) but not the differences. 

25 minutes ago, Asher Topaz said:

 

So if alchemy is just another way to samadhi or wuji why do Daoist treat it like its some super secret when there are even safer and less cumbersome ways of getting to samadhi. 

True. If all methods are equal, one should choose the safe and easy way. 

@Immortality@Immortality and we are interested in the source to this version as well 👋

On 2021-09-28 at 5:57 PM, SkullTraill said:

I'm just curious as to what this site is? I genuinely mean no offense, and of course I gather Daoism is one of the main topics... but would it also be safe to assume that, occult practices, celibacy and... "farming" (?) are also topics here?

Yes, people have a wide spread of interests, and there are many ways to center oneself and find peace. 

Or experiences, whatever.... 😁 

2 minutes ago, ThreeLeaf said:

 

No such thing as not having the ability to return.

If you say so. 

But, actually, taking examples from persons that manage to do a thing is not the same as seeing those that cannot. 

But that doesn't fit in the philosophy you are posting here. 

4 minutes ago, Limahong said:

 

I had come across a few  such persons at TDB

Hurt people are everywhere. 

I think that it is distasteful to glorify their pain and imply that they are weak when they cannot become strong and happy as a result of that pain. 

27 minutes ago, ThreeLeaf said:

Give examples for pushed beyond their ability to return.

Post traumatic stress syndrome? 

Any number of problems related to autonomic dysregulation? 

Prediction related issues (for the nerds 😜)? 

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It's easy to say things not so easy to find examples then really think them through. I did mention however WHEN(which takes time) they do return they will be infinitely times more happy and stronger. There is no such thing as not having the ability to return imo

That's your opinion, which is not based on things like medical experience. 

10 minutes ago, ThreeLeaf said:

Cleansox you asked for mechanical process on how the moons gravity affects the water in our body and what its doing. I'll try to find a answer. But i think since liquid(spinal FLUID) is easily moved instead of like bones. Then if it can be pulled or moved it will.

So, you basically made that one up. 

12 minutes ago, ThreeLeaf said:

 

If you suffering a lot everyday you will become more resistant and stronger towards it. You will also cherish life a lot more and have love for all things. You will know how to do many things like grow your own food ect.

A person that experience traumatic events that push them beyond their ability to return to a flexible and balanced state will become weaker and less resilient over time, with reduced ability to cherish and love. So you take out the ones that have above average resilience, and create an idealized image from that. In a similar vein, you miss-quote the Stanford prison experiment, and you have actually read the Idiot's guide to..... 

Wow. 

You will fit right in here, welcome! 

5 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

He already did .  The Moon pulls it up  . 

 

 

 

 

Yes, but I was hoping for a description of the process. 

3 hours ago, ThreeLeaf said:

 

Point is when moon is closest to earth will pull cerebral spinal fluid to the head. 

And you have a physiological reference on that snippet of fact? 

Or, you could just explain the mechanism of that a bit more? 

And it is usually linked to esoteric buddhism, although the power symbol absolutely has an equivalent in thunder rites. 

Freeze, flight, fight, fright (tonic Immobility), flag (dissociation and subordination reactions), faint (this one might not be part of it, the physiological reaction isn't really in line with the others). 

These are the main ones. 

Some use sex to relieve stress, which isn't the same as fucking the bear that tries to eat you.