Zork

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    I remember asking Ilovecoffee what the purpose of his practice is and he never answered. It is not a fu**ing state secret! And it was an honest question. Why was he vague about it? It makes no sense. In a similar vein i asked this guy what part of their 3 level practice is related neigong. He never answered. Why? What is the problem if he is practicing Qigong instead of Neikong? Is it a social stigma of sorts? This behavior is not constructive and not welcome here.
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    I am curious Luke, what do you expect to hear? Their practice is extremely limited to some qigong exercises aimed at an eventual LDT activation. You can have far stronger experiences by practicing zen meditation or some psychic qigong system. This. They don't answer. Period. There is no dialogue if one refuses to engage in conversation but repeats the same things over and over. I mean, what is the point of being in these forums if not to talk about anything?
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    I am angry because i ask questions in plain english like the dreaded: "which of your 3 available levels include neigong elements?" And i get irrelevant answers! It shows disrespect to me as a participant in the conversation. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out! The practice of mo pai without permission from the master is karmically innapropriate. To traditional schools it is a travesty. Until you realise that, there is nothing more to say. Furthermore i am critisizing your group's behavior in the forum not the ethical standing of it's individuals.
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    You have ridiculed yourselves once again by not answering simple direct questions. I have 0 gripe against chang. His only mistake was that he taught the wrong people. Like the qigong private subreddit that everyone says is run by idiots?
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    This is a sick joke! Your group is the problem. Your passive trolling behaviour in this thread just proves it.
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    You are exactly like ilovecoffee. You refuse to answer even the simplest of questions or aknowledge anything about what you practice. I am done with this thread. You only try to play martyr so that "everyone can see the hostility of the forum to WMP" when the problem in truth is your group's behavior.
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    Man you are a joke really! I ask you what part of your practice is neikung and you either don't know or there isn't neikung involved. Stop mentioning neikung! You do qigong since you don't have access to the higher levels! That is the difference between WMP and mo pai. The first is 3 qigong exercises aimed at preparing the LDT for activation while the second is a full neigong system!
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    I really don't give a *bleep* about what you are after, just don't pass yourselves as neikung practitioners! Neikung is only reserved for advanced students that have been proven worthy and not random guys who read a book and watched a video! There is a huge karmic backlash for a teacher who allows access to these practices to the unworthy.
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    Which part of my english is that complicated for you? I will ask again : Which exercise available to WMP is neikung in nature? You either state the exercise or you answer "none". There is no other possible or acceptable answer.
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    Again you provide no proof to back the statement when it is clear that it is not so. Which exercise available to WMP is neikung in nature? Answer this simple question. If you can't then your silence speaks for itself. A scam doesn't have to involve money to be one. You might be after recognition or prestige or whatever the hell motivates you. The reality is that you present yourselves as neikung practitioners when you do qigong while you scorn all other qigong systems.
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    Yes they are! You don't practice neikung. That is the truth. None of your 3 exercises are of neikung nature. On the second part: who the hell said anything about paying? Did i mention that? You keep silent about the questions we ask and you answer questions that no one asked? Is this your idea of how conversation goes, there at WMP? Again i ask the above. Did i miss something?
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    These are half truths which if you insist on them you just turn into another scammer. Again the above must be repeated. Jim had no permission to teach and he had no knowledge of the neikung happening on higher levels. So no transmission and no lineage.
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    Man you really don't understand what the "/jk" at the end means do you? To summarize: you don't have a lineage, you don't have transmission, you don't do neikung, you don' even know what it is. Did i miss something? It is ok that you practice what you do. Honestly i have 0 problems with it. But don't try to pretend to be things that you aren't.
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    Why do that when they have TEH BEST STUDENT EVAH teaching them. And Chang unfairly forced him to leave as not to create anxiety to eastern students of their incompetence! Jim was DA BEST! He was taught everything and video is HAXXOR when you try to learn neikung! /Jk
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    Of course there is a difference. Mo pai is a neikung system. None of the exercises you have is neikung in nature. You cannot point me to which of your practices is neikung and you can't even tell me what makes your WMP practices neikung. Hell you don't even know what constitutes nei kung! You only deflect and avoid answering to direct questions. That is the problem we have with your group's mindset. You never discuss and you deflect questions that you can't answer. Such behavior is not welcome in an open forum.
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    By all means then enlighten us what nei kung is! Your post is an admission that you WMP guys do QIGONG. Not neikung. Which is fine. But don't pretent to practice something else. What you are doing is deliberate misdirection.
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    That has nothing to do with what i asked you. Again which of your exercises and by which method transmutes the three treasures? If you don't answer which one specifically you admit by default that there is no neikung in your 3 level system.
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    What you have available in the first two levels are qigong exercises aimed at preparing the body for LDT activation. They have nothing to do with Neigong. Mo pai is a neikung school but the alchemy happens later. In the beginning it is just qigong. Even if you could awaken your LDT it would be useless to you because you have no idea how to clear your meridians or "widen" them to exploit the qi stored in the LDT. So please cut the crap about your group practicing neikung! If you insist on this nonsense just explain to us which exercise of the 2 at your disposal transmutes the 3 treasures.
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    ROFL! Of course you do! At the levels that you practice there is no neigong happening. You are doing chi gung whether you like it or not!
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    You really have no idea how aggressively they weed out anyone that does not share their opinion without dissent. Look here: https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueQiGong/comments/b5zyuc/just_wasted_half_a_day_trying_to_answer_bizarre/ Look at the questions asked by the mod. Do they remind you of someone else? Plus if someone doesn't share the same opinions he isn't allowed in. You have to admit that video is good evidence (hint: it isn't and no really intelligent person would concede that) to get in.