MIchael80

I would frame it a little differently (but understand your point, would just say it is not a believe ....more like have you experienced chi and how it flows through the meridians and is distinct from physical matter? Same with jing? Yuanqi and jing are even more subtle...

Destiny is ming. In neidan this means yuanqi and yuanjing. Xing is yuanshen. As Zhang boduan says ... everyone has it but squanders it. Golden elixir is merged xing and ming.

We have to understand some things here. Prenatal Qi and Yuanqi are different forms of qi even though they are too often used as the same. The next thing is that preheaven qi cultivation happens only in alchemical practices. So these are methods that are part of an alchemical school or a system that comes from one. If you want to do these the ancient northern method of wuliu has opened to the public in 2023 and is a ancient neidan system. It contains preheaven cultivation. https://daode.world/ Or you could join yuxian pai which is also an ancient alchemical school. Their organ qigong works mostly postheaven but has some preheaven cultivation as well. Yuxianpai.com All the best

Bethupton.com She also has a YouTube channel where she speaks very openly about all stages of practice.