Taoist Texts

In In that case, do I need to pay for the whole tuition fees in advance? Could you elaborate a bit further since I won't be planning to study either. Which language center did you enrol/attend? I'm fine if I need to pay the fees so no bad karma is created. Ta. :)Thanks everyone!

Yes, you get the stay you pay for in advance.

This link is for a general info

http://www.saporedicina.com/english/chinese-visa-application/

You dont need to attend class, or check  back with them once you get the visa. Nobody cares. On the other hand you should, its a fun experience.

The sequence of action is....

1. pick a city you wish (shanghai is the worst)

2. search online for unis and private language schools there. (normally any city has 3-4 unis and dozens of language schools); also a hotel.

 3. get a tourist visa and go to yr destination

4. find the university campus, approach any girl with glasses, ask for foreign student office. normally they would speak english and have a bulletin board with part-time translator offers.

5. shop around for courses, buy the best offer. Its wise to use internet banking not shlepp cash around.

6. once you pay, they will direct you first to a clinic for a health exam, then  to 2 police offices, 1 for long term visa, 2 at yr residence area for registration. That's it.

I attended Xiamen Uni for my doctorate, but i doubt xiamen is a good place for your purposes, being overrun with foreign students now, it is crowded and extra xpensive, the climate is dodgy too.

 

 

There is no single book where Wu-Liu Pai method is disclosed.

 

Huimingjing is not an exception. What's written there is not what is practised in Wu-Liu School. 

This is really interesting.

A while a go they told a story of a 6 year long lie by their teachers. Like one of their Chinese teacher lied to the western student about an exercise being a real deal. "Turns out" it was not.

Now they upped the ante by saying that Liu Huayang , whom they claim to be one of their own founders, was lying in his book.

They helpfully bolded that part.

So we are all doomed? :<

No, but the xmas bonus of the neidan sales team is. It will be a lean lean xmas at the neidan house this year.

The path to Nei Dan is paved with the money of those who seeks it?

Totally! Except there never was no Nei Dan at the end of it to begin with. It is all Bait, Switch, Blame the hapless student,  Repeat.

 

Why not play with open cards?

 

Because it is a shell game.

 

 

I know many people learn wu Liu pai here, just like mainland china.

 

I have talk with many people who practice wu Liu.

 

They use mind to control the chi to let chi make a circle around body.

 

Of course they do

This is a quote from Liu Huayang who is the Liu in Wu-Liu

以我之意宰之，以呼吸收之，和合真种，转运法轮

"Governing with the mind, ..., rotate the dharma wheel"

http://ctext.org/wiki.pl?if=gb&chapter=60761&searchu=%E6%B3%95%E8%BD%AE&remap=gb

The ignorami who pretend to be from Wu-liu do not know this.

no

The question was not addressed to you but since you took upon yourself to speak  Antares.... Would you kindly explain what  he meant by "turned out"? Did your leader misunderstood his teacher for 6 years or what?

 To all those guys who want quick results I can say that our Teacher Dmitry Artemyev had to practise initial method for 6 years when he arrived to China and it turned out that it was not WuLiuPai method. It was just a checking of his real intention and abillity to practise.

  To all those guys who want quick results I can say that our Teacher Dmitry Artemyev had to practise initial method for 6 years when he arrived to China and it turned out that it was not WuLiuPai method. It was just a checking of his real intention and abillity to practise. 

You seem to be saying that his teachers lied to him about what they were teaching him.

Falsely made  him to believe that it was a wulu method and then after 6 years said woops, it was not.

So they lied to him for 6 years, day in and day out, while he was paying them for something that it was not.

Is that what happened?

Yes or no please.

Insane. Why China let's US and UK citizens allow those long-term visas but not citizens from quiet and peaceful countries like AU or NZ?

 

I am not interested in multiple-entries. I want to visit China for meditative purposes so my stay will be peaceful and unnoticed. 

The easiest and eventually cheapest way to get a long term visa is to enroll into a language school in china, or to take a language or any other course in a uni. Thats what i did, got 1, 2 years visas easy peasy. 

The coda of this passage is variously understood as

"Just ride along with things as you let your mind wander.  Entrust yourself to inevitability and thereby nourish what is central.  That's the ultimate course.  What have you to do with the response of Ch'i?  Nothing is better than to fulfill your destiny, but that's the hardest of all."

"let your mind find its enjoyment in the circumstances of your position; nourish the central course which you pursue, by a reference to your unavoidable obligations. This is the highest object for you to pursue; what else can you do to fulfill the charge (of your father and ruler). The best thing you can do is to be prepared to sacrifice your life; and this is the most difficult thing to do."

With either sacrificing life or fulfilling life, as seemingly apt recommendations from a teacher to student. But thats not what Confucius says.

His logic is as follows: son, in the course of your mission you can be cunning, you can make educated guesses and such but in the end its gonna be what its gonna be. The best you can do is to roll with the punches and enhance your calm. But if so then why go on a mission (何作为报也?) at all? Is not it better to hand back your mandate (莫若为致命?) now? But , i understand for an ambitious young man it is a hard thing to do. (sighs)

Mair and Legge could be excused for mixing-up the two multi-meaning technical phrases, this is admittedly a hard passage to translate without ctext.

Remember, it was Confucius who was saying this.

Yes, i am just wondering if if was him or Mair). So u think thats the message - damn the torpedoes?

The best thing you can do is to be prepared to sacrifice your life; and this is the most difficult thing to do.'

/Legg/

 

 

"Just ride along with things as you let your mind wander.  Entrust yourself to inevitability and thereby nourish what is central.  That's the ultimate course.  What have you to do with the response of Ch'i?  Nothing is better than to fulfill your destiny, but that's the hardest of all."

 

So basically its do your duty come what may? thats  disappointingly trivial a bit.

 

so that my kitchen boys never feel as though they have to cool themselves off.

 

LoL

The entrences of Qi are two hands, two feet, head, heart.

 

Through these entrences, the Qi of our body can interchange with the surrounding.

 

A good tree is very powerful.

 

Not only tree, the sun is more powerful.

 

There are many kinds of Qi from nature.

阳里阴精质不刚，独修一物转赢丁 劳形按引皆非道，服气餐霞总是狂。

 

 

Keep doing what you're doing. By the sound of It, I reckon within another month of steady practice, the heat will begin to "rumble" and buzz, and then suddenly start to move.

and then suddenly it will be too late.

Hard to tell what is more upsetting. Newbies frying themselves on the inside out of ignorance, or their old-hand ignorant encourage-rs. Oh well, this will pass too.

 

After I slept for almost 3 years, my heart was opened and I saw many beautiful inner views, snow fly, mandala, full moon, red sun, even yang Shen.

 

Sounds wonderful, can you tell us how yang shen looks like? What does it do? Thanks.

Is there something about the advice which would not scale down to advise regular people relative to one another ,, or farther yet down to a single persons internal dialogue ...

would not the advice encourage schizophrenia then? You know one voice in my head reasoning with the other?

  If you do not stop, this is called 'galloping while sitting.'  Let your senses communicate within and rid yourself of the machinations of the mind.  ...  All the more is it suited for the masses."

 

He got this couple of sentences wrong, but otherwise did ok. A fairly straightforward passage, proving that ZZ like all the other wizards of those times was predominantly concerned with governance, not with the airy-fairy quietism. 

 

默朝上帝，一纪飞升， 

 

in the dark morning shang di in one epoch flew above,

 

Almost but not quite). The line says 默 in trance 朝 visit an audience 上帝 with the God on High，一纪 in 10 years飞升 fly up for good. 

Zheng Yi have no neidan practices. (in Singapore branches at least)

And never had them anywhere...but $200 is $200.

 

senile confused heart.

 

 And you don't know his previous relationships with Daode Centre. 

well relationship is a big word. It was more of a one-night stand, when she started asking for more money i left.

  .. There are physical signs, some of them are known only by students, others sound so fantastic that I prefer not to write about them here...  

So no results, one

just list everything you don't have dear arhont, including your inability to translate chinese texts 

No results, two

I think one result ...we learnt a lot about traditional understanding of daoism ...And this is no small achievement 

Not a single result, three

I do not know if I can exact share personal experiences of those students and results  

And no results at all, four...and counting

You know that name PayPal..it has a certain ironic meaning  to it. There are certain people that you pay with PayPal and get nothing in return except they are now your pals - who you pay. And you are their paying pal.

  but you failed after a month. 

 

 

This is what the shell game operators say:  'Dude you quit after the first round! Don't be a quitter! Play more, you will win!"

It demonstrates a lack of virtue to disparage other traditions.

not to mention an unfulfilled sales quota.